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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:51 am

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The next question is: Why now? Right now, I see this as a thinly veiled attack for not having joined the Nobody Special wagon and I don't like it at all.
There is a lot of players in the game. I'm going to miss them. Something with strike me about a player and I will go back to figure out what it was. I also posted that as a note either to myself or anyone who reads what others say after they left the game what I felt during the game. I truely believe if your town it's in the best interest to always lay out your scum suspects.
Now with NS at L-2 I am pretty sure his lynch will occur, as there is no reason for it not to and if I'm around tomorrow that comment is a note to myself for a reminder of something I want to keep an eye on.
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:55 am

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Ythan wrote:How about this. Who is everyone's number one and number two?
Jb and NS are my top 2 scum suspects
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:59 am

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SaintKerrigan

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JBernier93

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Rikenslope

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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:01 am

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Ythan wrote:How about this. Who is everyone's number one and number two?
Nobody Special in the 1st place. For the 2nd place, I wanna see how who replaces SaintKerrigan will act first.
[b]Skarr[/b]: [i]"I wish WRP_Beater would stop abusing the poor BBCode."[/i]
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:02 am

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Ythan wrote:How about this. Who is everyone's number one and number two?
Nobody Special in the 1st place. For the 2nd place, I wanna see how who replaces SaintKerrigan will act first.
You've got to have a number two suspect wishwash.
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:03 am

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Konowa wrote:NS, Rikenslope, Dr. Cyanide, SK, jb

Everyone's thoughts on the above five would be appreciated.
NS - follower scum
Riken - under the radar. So far out of all the votes on NS I dislike his the most
Dr. Cy - Needs to be replaced
SK - uncertain
Jb - scum, oh so scummy of scum.
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:04 am

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Ythan wrote:
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Ythan wrote:How about this. Who is everyone's number one and number two?
Nobody Special in the 1st place. For the 2nd place, I wanna see how who replaces SaintKerrigan will act first.
You've got to have a number two suspect wishwash.
Expecting more from WRP is like asking for Bill Gates to make a computer that doesn't crash. :lol:
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:09 am

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Ythan wrote:
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Ythan wrote:How about this. Who is everyone's number one and number two?
Nobody Special in the 1st place. For the 2nd place, I wanna see how who replaces SaintKerrigan will act first.
You've got to have a number two suspect wishwash.
Already said, but in case,
2nd suspect:
SaintKerrigan

Even if he's going to be replaced.
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:10 am

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The wishwash part does not bug me as much as the lack of vote part does.

1) NS
2) Riken/SK
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:10 am

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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:11 am

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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:17 am

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Konowa wrote:The wishwash part does not bug me as much as the lack of vote part does.

1) NS
2) Riken/SK
What happened with Jb? Did he move down the list for you and is Riken going to be based on NS flip?
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:18 am

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ns/wrp top 2.
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:21 am

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NS - very likely scum for reasons outlined

Rikenslope- lurky yday but seems to be actively contributing today. neutral enough, certainly not at the top of my list

Dr. Cyanide - fits a scum lurker vibe

SK - idk, i leaned scum earlier, but the replacement request seems to be actively busy and not lurking so much. didn't feel like he did a lot of scumhunting when he was around though.

jb- looks a good bet for scum (and scum w/ NS too IMO)
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:27 am

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Ythan wrote:
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Riddick, anything to say in that list about WRP?
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:36 am

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After NS, Rikenslope/SK/jb are jumbled close together. I just finished reading Rikenslope in iso and iso posts (4-6) where he is encouraging the Ythan/Horror catfight, and encouraging the Horror lynch without being on it are really starting to stink of scum to me.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:43 am

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Riken
I can see the encouragement. i would say him doing nothing to stop it and just making comments throughout the argument is bleh.
This post where he list the top 3

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 05#2154205

There is no note about NS but he votes for NS based on what others have been saying even thought Ythan is scum in his view he's following his logic
huh?

So yeah consider Riken part of my top 3 scum suspects
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:58 pm

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Ythan wrote:
Ythan wrote:
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Riddick, anything to say in that list about WRP?
oh he's scum, i was just commting on the players i was asked about.

i think he's been pretty much a non entity, pops up now and then (shows he's around) and doesn't scum-hunt, feel his reaction to the DAYKILL was fake as hell and there's probably other stuff too. i prefer a ns lynch for today atm, anyway (obv)
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:59 pm

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Acceptable.
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:10 pm

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Mod: Please prod Dr. Cyanide


I feel you may have to look for a replacement as I currently am looking one for him in another game.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:18 pm

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Alright, it's time to see what the case against Nobody Special is really made of...

Voting Horrordude without reasoning
Nobody Special (ISO 21) wrote:Here's the deal: I'm sick of the bickering.

Vote: horrordude


Defending SaintKerrigan / Attacking and later suspecting me based on 7 minutes / Ignoring the whole SK case
Nobody Special (ISO 22) wrote:@Unsight: Please explain how a 7-minute gap can be explained away as "simultaneous." (post 996)
Nobody Special (ISO 25) wrote:My entire suspicion of you is based on this 7 minute gap being called a simpulpost. That's it.


Contradicting his scum reads in the same post
Nobody Special (ISO 22) wrote:Perfect tell, commenting on the obvious. You mostly appear town, but IGMEOY.
Nobody Special (ISO 22) wrote:So, I guess this means my top three are, in no certain order:

Ythan
StKerrigan
Unsight
farside


Likes the Beater wagon lots (along with SK)
Nobody Special (ISO 22) wrote:
SaintKerrigan wrote:
Ythan wrote:
WRP_Beater wrote:Believe me, I'm a VT. Why would I lie when I am daykilled? You've just wasted a daykill.
I read this as very not genuine.
I agree with you.
I also agree. Then, coupling this with his "convenient" entry into the thread -- remember that? -- keeps WRP high on my list.


Wishy Washy
Nobody Special (ISO 27) wrote:Currently, I think Ythan is town-leaning. 0 being Totally Town, 100 being Mafia Grand Poobah Overlord, I'd put him at about 35.


[mech="Knowing" horrordude wasn't scum and still voting]
Nobody Special (ISO 31) wrote:Note that I didn't hammer horrodude for being (or appearing) scum; I hammered because I thought it would be in the best intereest of Town to end that garbage and move on..
[/mech]


The Good:
Nobody Special's attitude toward horrordude is really awful. To come back later and say "Yeah, I knew he was town but voted anyway" reeks of scumminess. Ignoring my whole case against SaintKerrigan to talk about the 7 minute thing is suspicious. Being unable to keep his own lies straight is amusing. Seeing NS' flip will reflect upon SK/Beater quite strongly.

The Bad:
All of the Beater stuff ties in with NS attempting to buddy with SK. I have this theory about Beater being deliberately scummy so his scummates can bus him to look good. Whatever the case, it's hard to get a useful read on it without having lynched either SK or Beater.

The Ugly:
Nobody Special's case is less impressive than SaintKerrigan's. Lynching him really feels like we're settling for a second banana. Both are scummy, NS is less scummy. I also think some of the people on the NS wagon like Rikeslope really need to shore up their votes. Even a good case can be dirtied by ugly votes. I also worry that the SK case is going to get pushed aside when the replacement comes in.

Overall the case is less impressive than I had imagined. It's still vote worthy and we can learn a lot from Nobody Special's death for tomorrow's voting. And so...

Vote: Nobody Special
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:21 pm

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He still hasn't claimed has he? He dodged it last time.
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:22 pm

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Back on day 1 when farside was cool
farside22 wrote:I'm voting now for NS

unvote:
vote:Nobody Special

buddying, following, and oh I thought I had something bs, bs, bs.
Plus he FOS'ed someone he says he trust. Give me a break. Pure scum.

Kids stop squabbling and vote for NS. Thanks.
Just so you know unsight this was my main feeling day 1 during the squabble of horror/ythan. Scum typically like to throw their vote in, not voice much else and disappear on site.
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:23 pm

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Ythan wrote:He still hasn't claimed has he? He dodged it last time.
Yes he thought someone who wasn't voting him should ask him to claim.
However since he is at L-1 he should claim.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:23 pm

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Ythan wrote:He still hasn't claimed has he? He dodged it last time.
Scum often need extra time for their claim. It's rough trying to figure out what to claim that won't get CC'd.
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