Mini 935 -- The Fountainhead (Completed)

[Zang]

Ha! That's one hell of a welcome!

Explain exactly why I'm scum, but this time use your own words instead of hiding behind someone else's reasoning.

I don't think anyone pointed it out (it's pretty obvious) but miller is the perfect scum claim because if a cop investigates him the cop would assume that he got a guilty result because you are a miller.

[SpyreX]

^

For the record, posts like this one are why I think Zang is town on fire versus scum pretending to be on fire.

[DeathSauce]

Posts like that are ridiculous. All he did was give us the definition of a Miller!

Obviously, Miller is not the ideal scum claim because it is just too perfect. Welcome to WIFOM.

[Zang]

Posts like that are ridiculous. All he did was give us the definition of a Miller!

Obviously, Miller is not the ideal scum claim because it is just too perfect. Welcome to WIFOM.

And that Is the obvious responce to a Vote about a miller claim and so on.

[DeathSauce]

I asked why I am scum, not why I claimed Miller.

I already know the answer to the second question, you just think you do.

[HowardRoark]

Vote Count -- D1

DeathSauce (6) -- SpyreX, Budja, Fate, Porkens, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Zang
Zang (3) -- d3x, AlmasterGM, RedCoyote
AlmasterGM (1) -- cruelty
RedCoyote (1) -- DeathSauce

Not Voting (1) -- Kthxbye

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is 02 APR 2010 at 9:15pm UTC. (Countdown)

V/LA

AlmasterGM until 2010 MAR 10

[SpyreX]

In actuality miller is a terrible claim but that doesn't change the pure, albeit silly, thought process in 225.

[Kthxbye]

Ha! That's one hell of a welcome!

Explain exactly why I'm scum, but this time use your own words instead of hiding behind someone else's reasoning.

I don't think anyone pointed it out (it's pretty obvious) but miller is the perfect scum claim because if a cop investigates him the cop would assume that he got a guilty result because you are a miller.

Are you not reading all the posts? This was already addressed. Spyre laughed at this and I already said exactly what you said here....except much earlier...I do not understand how you can make comments like this yet read all the posts...please explain how you missed it and thought you were the first one to bring it up.

[AlmasterGM]

Back. I'll make a larger post later, but going off a quick read, I'm totally ready for hammertime on DeathSauce. Are you?

[SpyreX]

?

When you say quick read I hope that means you have SOME idea of what has transpired or why hammer?

ohh goooddddd brain

[Porkens]

In actuality miller is a terrible claim but that doesn't change the pure, albeit silly, thought process in 225.

I just can't get on board with you on this one. I want to, but I can't.



It's Miller time.


If I were vig, I'd shoot SpyreX.

[SpyreX]

Hey.

HEY.

HEY.

No reason to bring GUNS into our discussion.

Ohh yea ready for this Porkens-chan: the miller makes me think its far more likely there is a cop. If this is the case, DO NOT investigate Zang tonight TIA.

[AlmasterGM]

?

When you say quick read I hope that means you have SOME idea of what has transpired or why hammer?

ohh goooddddd brain

Actually, I just read the vote count, saw someone was at L-1, and offered to hammer for the hell of it.

/sarcasm

I read the thread and didn't type anything because that takes long and I don't have long right now.

[Porkens]

Back. I'll make a larger post later, but going off a quick read, I'm totally ready for hammertime on DeathSauce. Are you?

Scum.

If you wanted to hammer quick, you would have done in that post. But you don't have the nuts to throw down hard, because your afraid of the suspicion. Your asking permission to quickhammer. I litterally can't think of something scummier at the moment.

God, but that means your not scum WITH him, or you'd bus the hell out of him with a hammer.

So... I'm completely expecting a 3rd party flip from Miller, and a /pre-in to vote for AMG tomorrow.

[SpyreX]

....

Wait.

If you'd read the thread and didn't have time to post why did you post saying you were going to... read the thread versus saying you didn't have time to post?

What

WHAT

[Kthxbye]

Let's wait to hammer till after we get everyone to post. I personally would like to hear something worthwhile from cruelty (super careful townie or not, his posts are lacking imo). Also would like to hear from D3x and get some opinions from AMG about what's happened since he went V/LA. DDD and Budja thoughts would also be appreciated before the hammer. Let's not get in too much a rush folks. Let's also remember that DeathSauce very well could flip Miller as he says so that is still a Mislynch and since I can't see how scum knew he was a miller, scum were pushing for his lynch long before DS replaced in. I don't see how the day ends with anything but a DS lynch, so no harm in getting the rest of the players to post some comments.

[Kthxbye]

Hey, contradiction...aight!

[Porkens]

Back. I'll make a larger post later, but going off a quick read, I'm totally ready for hammertime on DeathSauce. Are you?

Scum.

If you wanted to hammer quick, you would have done in that post. But you don't have the nuts to throw down hard, because your afraid of the suspicion. Your asking permission to quickhammer. I litterally can't think of something scummier at the moment.

God, but that means your not scum WITH him, or you'd bus the hell out of him with a hammer.

So... I'm completely expecting a 3rd party flip from Miller, and a /pre-in to vote for AMG tomorrow.

That said I give you permission to quick-hammer.

[Fate]

I just can't get on board with you on this one. I want to, but I can't.



It's Miller time.


If I were vig, I'd shoot SpyreX.

*notices that Porkens didn't unvote*

Um, what is it that can't you get on board with?

[Zang]

Ha! That's one hell of a welcome!

Explain exactly why I'm scum, but this time use your own words instead of hiding behind someone else's reasoning.

I don't think anyone pointed it out (it's pretty obvious) but miller is the perfect scum claim because if a cop investigates him the cop would assume that he got a guilty result because you are a miller.

Are you not reading all the posts? This was already addressed. Spyre laughed at this and I already said exactly what you said here....except much earlier...I do not understand how you can make comments like this yet read all the posts...please explain how you missed it and thought you were the first one to bring it up.

you explained that it was not smart to claim miller and that the cop(if there is one) shouldn't waist an investigation him, I explained the link between this and scum.

[Fate]

Hold off on the hammer, I agree with Kthx about at least hearing from some more people, as in, all the people Kthx listed.

[Porkens]

I just can't get on board with you on this one. I want to, but I can't.



It's Miller time.


If I were vig, I'd shoot SpyreX.

*notices that Porkens didn't unvote*

Um, what is it that can't you get on board with?

I can't get on board with the idea that Zang is Lawful Good. I have no interest in unvoting. have I expressed some?

[Fate]

I can't get on board with the idea that Zang is Lawful Good. I have no interest in unvoting. have I expressed some?

No, just thought that was the thing you weren't on board with Spyrex with was the DS lynch. This was further thought to be the case when you said "Its Miller team" as in, it was time to believe the miller?

Meh, it is all cleared up now.

[HowardRoark]

cruelty has been prodded (1st)

[cruelty]

huh, thought I'd posted in here recently. My bad.


Miller claim... seems pretty obvious who's getting lynched today. I won't hammer in this post because apparently I haven't posted in a while (again, sorry), so if there's anything I need to comment on, then I'll do that first. If nothing comes up before I goto bed (6 hours) then I'll hammer.

I'm serious, in many of the few games I've been in (including this one), I see people randomly accusing people of being scum and they make up scum tells. Many of theese "scum tells" are actually null or even town. For example, Cruelty was accused of lieing but no matter how good the reasoning is, (not) reading the rules is a null tell. I find real scum that kill townies like possibly horror/deathsauce (and welcome!) and I have to admit that if I was one of you I would be tempted to vote for myself.

It's posts like this that really confuse me about Zang. For the most part, this post is actually fairly lucid and logical (ignoring that it's partly about me, I'm talking about

how

he's writing), which is in stark contrast to many of his other posts. I don't really understand this at all; in the previous game I played within him you saw this sort of post and it made me think that it was a crafty scum playing behind an idiot's facade, but it seems to be a constant. I have absolutely no read on him at all - everything he says and does can be attributed to either lunatic town or devious scum, and honestly there's no way to tell between the two.

These two gems (as Spyrex pointed out) sort of illustrate my point:

I don't think anyone pointed it out (it's pretty obvious) but miller is the perfect scum claim because if a cop investigates him the cop would assume that he got a guilty result because you are a miller.

And that Is the obvious responce to a Vote about a miller claim and so on.

I just don't get it.

If I were vig, I'd shoot SpyreX.

why?

@spyrex: why not investigate zang?


Why directing possible PRs?



I feel like there's some sort of conclusion being reached that's flying way over my head, can someone explain?