Open 208 - Fire & Ice Mafia >Over!<

[DarkLightA]

Okay, that vote was meant for me to be a base in scum hunting, but as you guys seem to not like it:

Unvote

Now where do we start

[Crazy]

Okay, that vote was meant for me to be a base in scum hunting, but as you guys seem to not like it:

Just trying to get what you're saying... you voted SK in hopes that it would start getting other people to scum-hunt her? That's a weird way to do things, but at least it makes sense in the context of your post. *shrug*

[Scott Brosius]

@Scott
Wait. What? Isn't your argument more applicable to Mindgamer then Dark given with what you quoted.?

Both are scummy to me. However, voting Mindgamer would not be taken seriously from me as everyone would have just assumed it was OMGUS. Also I feel more confident about my vote thanks to this gem.

Okay, that vote was meant for me to be a base in scum hunting,

but as you guys seem to not like it

:

Why do you want our approval to make votes? This furthers my idea that you are just trying to make a BW stick throwing your vote around.

[Mindgamer]

...Bio Hazard?

He's in all my games!!!

Nachomamma8
Wait, you took that as me defending Scott Brosius? Erm, what? Again, I was just asking what made Scott special.

Yeah, I take that as a defense since I had already explained what made Scott Brosius stand out.

ICEninja
Actually it was. You did not understand the nature of my question. I was asking DarkLight if, because 2 people were lower on the list than you, if he found them more scummy than you. If he did, then why was he voting you?

You asked DarkLightA why he voted for me. Not relatively to the other players, you just asked why.

ICEninja
If you insist on Mindgamer, tell us what specifically he has done that makes you feel he merits a vote.

DarkLightA
Sorry, I realized that might be unclear. It's not a ladder scale, but a category scale. I'm reciding a bit on XScorpion.

This is not an answer to the question.

Ahaha, you little smarty-pants. Putting words in people's mouthes now?

What words?

DarkLightA
Also, use

[/ quote] Instead of [ quote]Name[/ quote]

No.

DarkLightA
Okay, that vote was meant for me to be a base in scum hunting, but as you guys seem to not like it:

Unvote

Rolling Eyes Now where do we start

Que? Who has said they don't like it? Scott Brosius. And Deer merely asked you a question. Is that enough for you to think 'well apparently the town doesn't like this soooooo'?
You do realize there are four scum in this game right? Thinking independently is the key to victory. Don't let your judgment be clouded by what others say.

[DarkLightA]

Okay, that vote was meant for me to be a base in scum hunting, but as you guys seem to not like it:

Just trying to get what you're saying... you voted SK in hopes that it would start getting other people to scum-hunt her? That's a weird way to do things, but at least it makes sense in the context of your post. *shrug*

No, you're misunderstanding.. It's more to see the reactions of people. Gives crucial info I've learned.

Also, Mindgamer, ICEninja's question (why I voted you, when there were 2 "more scummy" players on my scum radar) was answered by me explaining that these were not in order, and that I was residing on XScorpion. So, hence, you looked more scummy to me, so you earned my vote.

Now, however, I'm realising that you're not that scummy either, so I suddenly have a problem.

So there's one on my scum list left to go. =)

[Nikanor]

Vote Count 1.14

pwnman (3)

- Crazy, Nachomamma8, XScorpion

Mindgamer (2)

- SaintKerrigan, Deer

XScorpion (2)

- ICEninja, DTMaster

ICEninja (1)

- Bio Hazard

Crazy (1)

- pwnman

Scott Brosius (1)

- Mindgamer

DarkLightA (1)

- Scott Brosius

Not Voting (1)

- DarkLightA

With twelve players alive, seven votes are required to lynch.

Deadline falls on Thursday March 18 at 16:50 UTC.

pwnman has been prodded.

[DarkLightA]

Not Voting (0)

- DarkLightA

Not very nice

Sorry, Freudian slip. Fixed. ~Nik

[DTMaster]

@Scott
1. So in your argument you were referring to both players then?

Vote: Mindgamer

Just starting somewhere.

Ah, what ever...

unvote

There are better candidates of being scum.


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So, it's on to the next one:

Vote: StK

This rubs me the wrong way. It looks like you are just throwing your vote around in an attempt to see if a BW will stick. There is no reasoning behind it.

Vote: DarkLightA

2. Yes DK's post is very scummy

@Darklight
1. Why are you more concerned about looking good, rather then scum hunting? You started in Augest 09, this is March 10. I expected better posts then this.

2. Given that you have someone left on your scum list to analyze, why aren't you doing it now? Vote wise, and from your current posts.

[SaintKerrigan]

Posting to say that I'm extremely sleep-deprived and cranky from psych tests, so I'm only going to be handling my modding duties today.

[DTMaster]

Unvote

Vote: SaintKerrigan

He is actively lurking in this game.

Use this:
http://www.msutils.net/search.php

Searched SaintKerrigan

He posted in other games, and he analyzed in other games.

Discuss

[ICEninja]

Wow, Kerrigan has been extremely active in Mafia 110 lately, and completely lurking here. That is indeed suspicious.

You do realize there are four scum in this game right? Thinking independently is the key to victory. Don't let your judgment be clouded by what others say.

Maybe I'm missing your point here, but this statement seemed to be completely irrelevant to the rest of your post, and just thrown in there.

[Deer]

vote: DarkLightA

You're just trying to start some sort of bandwagon, it seems, without any reasoning behind it. I just asked you to explain the SK vote, since you did it without anything to say about him. I don't like it one bit.

[Nachomamma8]

DT, do you have more confidence in your SK vote then your XScorpion vote, then?

[SaintKerrigan]

Mod: I'm sorry, but I need to replace out. Reality is catching up with me, and I'm afraid I just don't have time to play any games. I'm really sorry about this!

[Nikanor]

BANG!

Coughing in the dust, someone speaks up,

"What the heck just happened?"

There has been an explosion near the starboard engine. The damage has been contained, and there is no permanent damage.
"Is everyone alright?"

Asks Nikanor.

"No, I think SaintKerrigan has gone missing."

SaintKerrigan is indeed missing. After a couple minutes of searching, though, his body is found slumped against a wall.

"He's dead."

"*Sigh* Alright, I'll send down another replacement."

Please welcome danakillsu to the game! In case it isn't obvious, he is replacing SaintKerrigan.

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Vote Count 1.15

pwnman (3)

- Crazy, Nachomamma8, XScorpion

DarkLightA (2)

- Scott Brosius, Deer

Mindgamer (1)

- danakillsu

XScorpion (1)

- ICEninja

ICEninja (1)

- Bio Hazard

Crazy (1)

- pwnman

Scott Brosius (1)

- Mindgamer

SaintKerrigan (1)

- DTMaster

Not Voting (1)

- DarkLightA

With twelve players alive, seven votes are required to lynch.

Deadline falls on Thursday March 18 at 16:50 UTC.

[DTMaster]

@Nacho

^^ Need I say more. SK has been active in other games, but claims to be busy in this game. SK also flaked out on another ice/fire mafia game (though he turned out to be town. Read mod errored open 201).

The timing of his replacement with my accusation = very bad against SK.

@Dana
Sup

[XScorpion]

Won't be around much this week due to schoolwork and such, but I'll try to come on whenever possible. If you have any questions to ask me specifically, please do! Many apologies to town.

[DarkLightA]

1. Why are you more concerned about looking good, rather then scum hunting? You started in Augest 09, this is March 10. I expected better posts then this.

I'm not. I'm scum hunting and analyzing at this moment.

2. Given that you have someone left on your scum list to analyze, why aren't you doing it now? Vote wise, and from your current posts.

Same answer.

SK ANALYZING RESULTS

SK personal info:

• SK is from Minnesota, and I can therefore assume that he is fluent in English

Okay here's a look at SK's iso:
Post numbers displayed on left.

0-1: RVS
2: Votes mindgamer because of this post

I like the RVS.

Vote: ICEninja
Obviously Fire Mafia.

My timezone is UTC+1 / GMT+1.

Where Mindgamer obviously states "This is a random vote." (paraphrased) followed by a vote and some obvious sarcasm.
3:

I'm pretty sure that's a joke, not a scumslip.

I don't think so.

Why specifically accuse him of being Fire Mafia? Seems like an Ice Mafia slip-up to me.

SERIOUSLY?????
4: Makes a

sarcastic

joke himself. (So he has some humor and understands sarcasm, plus he's fluent in English so he can't have misunderstood it in that way)
6: Unvotes Mindgamer, votes pwnman; states that he understands the joke, and that pwnman

didn't have the same

understanding and thoughts of the case as him [SK], so he [SK] votes him [pwnman].
7-13: Argues for the pwnman case
14: Suddenly says:

I agree that my case on Mindgamer was weak. It was an attempt to make something happen to jolt out the RVS (although at the time I agreed with my reasoning).

Wait, wait, wait...

Now he's saying that he UNDERSTOOD the Mindgamer sarcasm and pointed it out just to get the game out of RVS????

Add active lurking to that, and it deserves:

Vote: SK/replacement

Get well soon though! Good luck![/reverse]

[DarkLightA]

Umm, that [/reverse] tag wasn't meant to be there.


More analyses coming up

[Mindgamer]

DTMaster is posting so much weak comments...

DTMaster
You started in Augest 09, this is March 10. I expected better posts then this.

Time on site =/= Quality of posts.

DTMaster
Unvote
Vote: SaintKerrigan

He is actively lurking in this game.

Use this:
http://www.msutils.net/search.php

Searched SaintKerrigan

He posted in other games, and he analyzed in other games.

Discuss

Ok, you're keeping track of SaintKerrigan's games. That's good. So you also know that when he replaced out of this game, he replaced out of all his other games as well right? (barring Chess Mafia where he will just take a break)

DTMaster
@Nacho

^^ Need I say more.

SK has been active in other games

, but claims to be busy in this game. SK also flaked out on another ice/fire mafia game (though he turned out to be town. Read mod errored open 201).

The timing of his replacement with my accusation

= very bad against SK.

@Dana
Sup

He stopped playing those games. Why are you pushing a SaintKerrigan lynch with such poor reasoning? 'The timing of his replacement with my accusation'. This implies that SaintKerrigan-scum replaced out because of one vote... what?

DarkLightA
SK wrote:
I agree that my case on Mindgamer was weak. It was an attempt to make something happen to jolt out the RVS (although at the time I agreed with my reasoning).

Wait, wait, wait... Now he's saying that he UNDERSTOOD the Mindgamer sarcasm and pointed it out just to get the game out of RVS????

He doesn't say he understood the sarcasm. Nice Straw Man.

ICEninja
Mindgamer wrote:

You do realize there are four scum in this game right? Thinking independently is the key to victory. Don't let your judgment be clouded by what others say.

Maybe I'm missing your point here, but this statement seemed to be completely irrelevant to the rest of your post, and just thrown in there.

O really? I'd say this is my best contribution to the game so far. A townie who can't think independently is worthless. It's a shame DarkLightA ignores me and follows the trend again: DTMaster attacks SaintKerrigan and DarkLightA makes a case on SaintKerrigan.

[DarkLightA]

Hold up, hold up..

So you're saying that I have to vote someone who isn't being voted on, otherwise I'll be scum? That's just too incorrect.

Yes, I think independently. I'm thinking outside of what I post. I have suspicions, and I'm testing it all out in-game.

[DTMaster]

@Mindgamer

Um, wut?

"check"

Ok, now why did you attack me for this when:

a. SK's last post I analyzed was Tue Mar 09 2010 06:19:00
b. I posted at Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:57 pm
c. The replacements began Tue Mar 09 2010 21:49:00

Lets see in a span of 5 hours SK replaced out of the games. However you ignored March 8th when SK posted here

All right, sorry for not showing up yesterday, guys. I'm going to do a reread now.

Said he had midterms on the 9th so he didn't post his catchup but had time to post on the 8th with the last analysis being on Mon Mar 08 2010 17:26:0.

He stopped playing those games. Confused Why are you pushing a SaintKerrigan lynch with such poor reasoning? 'The timing of his replacement with my accusation'. This implies that SaintKerrigan-scum replaced out because of one vote... what?

No I had evidence that he was

actively lurking in this game, not that he was scum who gave up. That is far more supperior to what you call my case is.

Now I'm sorry, but tell me again how on the 8th this wasn't a sign of

active lurking

. Also, if you read in context of the argument, and the timing of SK's replacment it looks extremely bad in context. Seriously,

good job ignoring my initial argument, before you do that again you had better attack the whole active lurking bit which is the core of my original vote on SK.

That is when my vote was on SK. I followed up when SK replaced out. Oh hay IceNinja agrees with me too, but you don't attack him. You attack the guy who put the first vote when he had evidence to push a case on SK. lol.

TD:DR, mindgamer doesn't understand why I voted SK. SK still demonstrated active lurking, however the mass replacement is a sign that he was that busy with life. I'll let the replacement post. Mindgamer's defence on SK is noted since he is chainsawing heavily on me. If SK/Replacement flips scum, it is likely Mindgamer is scum with SK because he ignored my initial vote, and only attacked my side comment (aka he ignored my full case).

Which leads me to say: Mindgamer you are also tracking SK via my tool since you knew SK replaced out of everything. Why did you leave out my initial comment about SK being an active lurker when I clearly showed SK posting elsewhere?

[DTMaster]

Oh forgot to:

unvote

[Nikanor]

Vote Count 1.16

pwnman (3)

- Crazy, Nachomamma8, XScorpion

DarkLightA (2)

- Scott Brosius, Deer

Mindgamer (1)

- danakillsu

XScorpion (1)

- ICEninja

ICEninja (1)

- Bio Hazard

Crazy (1)

- pwnman

Scott Brosius (1)

- Mindgamer

danakillsu (1)

- DarkLightA

Not Voting (1)

- DTMaster

With twelve players alive, seven votes are required to lynch.

Deadline falls on Thursday March 18 at 16:50 UTC.

[danakillsu]

Okay, I posted in another game that I thought was this one, so I haven't read this game yet. But hi.