Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Unsight]

I sure hope you're not lurking now that the heat is on someone else.

Go ahead and let SK lurk. I don't think my SK case really needs the help but it's welcome.

When it comes to both SK and NS, I think that NS' possible chainsawing means that either flipping scum strongly reflects on the other.

Also, I see a lot of people mentioning WRP_Beater and, as scummy/VI as he is, it bothers me that the two people highest on my suspect list have both directly or indirectly pushed the Beater wagon.

[Unsight]

Actually, scratch that "a lot." It's pretty much just Riddick and Nobody Special repeating it a lot.

That's kind of interesting.

[Ythan]

More so. Looking over who's pushing Beater when there are such great active wagons to choose from.

[Riddick]

NS how did you manage to have a brain fart in the same post? I'd think you'd surely remember what you'd type just above? Didn't you say earlier you previewed all your posts to check for new ones, don't you read over your posts then?

[Nobody Special]

NS, are you explaining more that one point as a "brain fart"?

vote count please

No, just that one, single, point.

[Nobody Special]

NS how did you manage to have a brain fart in the same post? I'd think you'd surely remember what you'd type just above? Didn't you say earlier you previewed all your posts to check for new ones, don't you read over your posts then?

Yes, I check for new posts; no, I don't *always* re-read my own. And sometimes I get interrupted.

[farside22]

JB: I would love to see an actual case on Ythan instead of the post saying it's not going anywhere.

I made my case when I voted?

A player that attacked someone you were voting on and you did nothing to interfer and you want to blame and call that player scum because of that?
Really?

[DedicatedScribe]

Unvote Vote Nobody Special

too. WRP_Beater seems to be getting no support as a wagon but this is pretty good too.

Why do you think NS is a pretty good wagon? Who are your top 3 scum suspectes?

For the reasons/inconsistencies I've outlined but

To summarise them:
He was busy/lurked through day 1, no real difference which as it can't be proven but his lack of contribution is scummy.
Hopped on the horror wagon w/o ever mentioning him before hand. Said horror was getting worse and worse, despite having never expressed suspcioun of him before hand.
Came out saying he thought Ythan was town/had him as a scum read in the same post- Shows he's making things up as he goes along (imo a scum mindset) or has a bad memory.
Some of his scum-hunting has been bad (using a 7 minute simul post as the sole focus of his case(
Hasn't answered all questions levelled at him
Also the quote Ythan just showed was very interesting. Ythan is suspicious for something he himself did...that's just ridiculous.

WRP_Beater is my second choice, as previously indiciated (I thought I was voting for him, actually). Jbernier is 3rd on a gut scum read, plus her play lately has been bothering me.

After that

Lol. It's not that they both thought about the Day, but that NS called him scum for this.

NS, the list of your exploits is growing...

So, I want people to either vote for NS, or tell me why you aren't. That sounds like a good request.

[farside22]

So, I want people to either vote for NS, or tell me why you aren't. That sounds like a good request.

Last time ythan argued to lynch someone he was wrong

ooooo burn!!!!

Okay now that I got that out of my system. I know I had suspicion on NS but I don't want to let jb off the hook.

Mod vote count please!

I want to compare the votes on NS from the one's that were on horror yesterday for a moment.

[DedicatedScribe]

vote dedicated scribe

I'm going to work on another update post starting w/ D2.

Just briefly perusing the run-up to horror's lynch, posts 929 and 930 sit uneasy with me. Particularly, 929 looks like it was written by someone who had an idea about the lynch scene.

kinda vague. What do you mean?

Anyways, this doesn't seem like yesterday in the least. There is loads of valid evidence showing NS's inconsistency and scumminess.

I don't think its too early to request a role claim.

[DedicatedScribe]

So, I want people to either vote for NS, or tell me why you aren't. That sounds like a good request.

Last time ythan argued to lynch someone he was wrong

ooooo burn!!!!

Okay now that I got that out of my system. I know I had suspicion on NS but I don't want to let jb off the hook.

Mod vote count please!

I want to compare the votes on NS from the one's that were on horror yesterday for a moment.

That's a terrible reason. Lol.

I feel that NS is much scummier than JB, and it doesn't matter since we have D3 coming after today. However, I've kinda sorta been ignoring you, since you aren't focusing on NS, lol.

[RayFrostWikiManager]

I've got ~ 20 pages to catch up on; have been recovering from craziness. I know I need to devote more time to this game. I apologize, and will hopefully have something together ASAP.

Will have actual content soon!
- RFWM

[Nobody Special]

I don't think its too early to request a role claim.

Isn't it standard for someone NOT voting me to request the claim?

[farside22]

I don't think its too early to request a role claim.

Isn't it standard for someone NOT voting me to request the claim?

No.

God today has been a day.

DS: do you really think my reason's for Jb as scum is terrible or the reason's I'm not switching votes yet is terrible?
Why?

[Unsight]

So, I want people to either vote for NS, or tell me why you aren't. That sounds like a good request.

My vote on SaintKerrigan gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling like I'm looking at a scummy Pillsbury doughboy that goes "unvote vote" every time I poke it.

There's that, and I don't like fast bandwagons. They're too... fast. I also don't like people who pressure others onto fast bandwagons.

NS is probably vote-worthy considering his most recent posts and I will likely re-examine his behavior in its entirety in the near future but right now I'm more interested in poking SK and hearing from the lurkers than edging the day closer to its end.

[Ythan]

Somebody not voting NS request a claim from him. And then vote him.

[farside22]

Somebody not voting NS request a claim from him. And then vote him.

Makes me wish I was voting for NS just do this.

[Netopalis]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 9

DedicatedScribe

- 1 - Lowell - (L-8)

JBernier93

- 3 - Farside22, MoleStargazer, Konowa - (L-6)

Nobody Special

- 5 - Ythan, Kison, DedicatedScribe, Riddick, Rikenslope - (L-4)

Rikenslope

- 1 - pman5595 - (L-8)

SaintKerrigan

- 2 - Unisght, JBernier93 - (L-7)

Players not voting: Dr. Cyanide, Nobody Special, RayFrostWikiManager, SaintKerrigan, WRP_Beater

[Unsight]

I've got ~ 20 pages to catch up on; have been recovering from craziness. I know I need to devote more time to this game. I apologize, and will hopefully have something together ASAP.

Will have actual content soon!
- RFWM

Speaking of lurkers... who are you and how do you manage to have fewer posts than Beater?

[DedicatedScribe]

I don't think its too early to request a role claim.

Isn't it standard for someone NOT voting me to request the claim?

No.

God today has been a day.

DS: do you really think my reason's for Jb as scum is terrible or the reason's I'm not switching votes yet is terrible?
Why?

Oh, I don't think its terrible. I just think I've been terrible not paying attention to other attacks. I'll do that ASAP.

Unsight, I feel the same way about fast wagons. Hm.

[farside22]

Looking at all those who voted for NS so far this is by far the worse vote and reasoning. I don't care for people who are I agree and go off someone they found scum to go after someone else on a BW vote.

Here's what I was looking for.

Glad the Richard issue was cleared up. And dead scum too!

Perfect tell, commenting on the obvious. You mostly appear town, but IGMEOY.

Morning all...
So Richard is gone and so is Crypto.
One townie, one mafia.
Not bad for a night 1...I guess. Although I could have done without seeing a townie PR gone so quickly. I am going to re-read day one and come up with a more substantive post a little later.

Nothing.

This is also an interesting piece of that particular puzzle if you didn't see.

Even though I don't like Ythan (by way of thinking he is scummy or at least a bully (anti-town)) I must concur with his logic against NS. It seems solid and until NS comes up with an explanation.

Unvote
Vote: NS

So far everyone else on the NS wagon as a good and valid reason.

[jbernier93]

Jbernier is 3rd on a gut scum read, plus her play lately has been bothering me.

I AM NOT FEMALE. GRUMBLE GRUMBLE

JB: I would love to see an actual case on Ythan instead of the post saying it's not going anywhere.

I made my case when I voted?

A player that attacked someone you were voting on and you did nothing to interfer and you want to blame and call that player scum because of that?
Really?

Did you even read my vote post? Because it sure as hell sounds like you didn't.

[RayFrostWikiManager]

I've got ~ 20 pages to catch up on; have been recovering from craziness. I know I need to devote more time to this game. I apologize, and will hopefully have something together ASAP.

Will have actual content soon!
- RFWM

Speaking of lurkers... who are you and how do you manage to have fewer posts than Beater?

Basically, I replaced RayFrost 20 pages in, had a good posting level, then I went crazy and then night hit...and I still haven't a chance to catch up. I have no idea who you replaced. Hi

vote molestargazer

for now

[jbernier93]

vote molestargazer

for now

Woah, any particular reason why you're voting one of the (at least IMO) most pro-town players in the game?

[farside22]

Tell me how I'm wrong here Jb.

This for me is a big scum tell.

vote:Ythan

Crypto and Ythan agreed some and fought some yesterday. Lots of interaction between the two until Ythan started pushing the horror lynch way too hard. Crypto put Ythan low on his list. Ythan's bickering with Horror was very anti-town.

If you look he voted himself for horror and for the rest of the day stayed out of the argument but blames ythan for pushing the horror lynch way too hard.
Using Crypto's list saying you were low on his list of suspects is just sad. I can say looking at ythan's post although fun sucker is a word I would use his push, drive and questions doesn't look scummy.
Who stays out of players bickering with each other? Mostly the scum.