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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:49 am

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farside22 wrote:What about other players in the game? You haven't mentioned DTMaster or anyone else really so far
Null reads. DTMaster has offered some helpful links and info, but that's not enough to be pro-town. Everyone else just hasn't given me enough content to process yet.
Why would town look for affromation on their vote of another player?
I didn't.
when I show 2 quotes in which you clearly are fence sitting it's not a fabrication.
Except when they aren't clearly fence sitting.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:49 am

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TheLonging wrote:Oh god, Lacey's being attacked. Let me see where this started
I promise to try and not make this as bad as the Gayle/me argument last game.
lol, that's not the main reason. I can keep up easily but it'll be hard to fit me into any of it. I'm trying my damnedest to keep up.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:51 am

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lacey wrote:This is my win condition.
Your win condition is either mafia or scum. Asking for your own lynch no matter your alignment is against your win condition.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:51 am

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lacey wrote:This is my win condition.
IC hat on:

Your win condition is either mafia or scum. Asking for your own lynch no matter your alignment is against your win condition.
There are 8 town, and 4 scum.

Day 1, we are 66.7% likely to lynch town.

Trading myself for scum helps me attain my win condition. I win even if I am dead.

I'm not asking for my lynch. I'm asking to trade for kmd. He backed down from a deal he thought he could win, I am now convinced he is scum.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:55 am

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far wrote: Why would town look for affromation on their vote of another player?
Lacey wrote: I didn't.
Lacey wrote: I'm happy with my vote where it is now,
I just don't want people to think I'm convinced I've got a case on kmd or anything
. I will admit my worries about kmd are increasing as he last posted Sunday and hasn't posted since.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:57 am

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Lacey wrote: Except when they aren't clearly fence sitting.
What would you call your wishy washy vote on Kmd then?
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:58 am

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farside22 wrote:
far wrote: Why would town look for affromation on their vote of another player?
Lacey wrote: I didn't.
Lacey wrote: I'm happy with my vote where it is now,
I just don't want people to think I'm convinced I've got a case on kmd or anything
. I will admit my worries about kmd are increasing as he last posted Sunday and hasn't posted since.
Look you don't agree with my reasoning. I don't agree with yours. We can rehash this distractingly over the next five pages, or we can scum hunt. You do what you want to, I'll be doing the latter.

Since the mod doesn't like the idea of trading, and claims this is against my win condition, here is my proposal.

Kmd4390 wanted to trade and then backed down. Sounds like he has some explaining to do. I'm working right now on the assumption that he hoped I was opposite mafia from him, and backed down when it became clear I was town. I think Kmd needs to confess, or explain himself.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:14 pm

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Lacey has received a warning for infracting Rule 5. If this happens again...
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:14 pm

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I stated my reasoning and show quotes and placed in bold where you are backing off of what you stated. So unless you can explain how you are not fence-sitting in those 2 quotes are why you are saying you are not looking for afformation from players when I put in bold that you did all your doing is hoping to distract me to go after someone else.
Now there is more then one scum and untill you answer my questions and instead of bypassing my points your stuck with my vote on you.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:18 pm

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Game growing fast. Nice interactions, haven't read page five seriously yet.

Now.

@Gheb: I don't take imperative tone.

@Lacey:
1)How sure are you of Kmd being scum?
2)If you are serious about your trade, then please vote yourself.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:19 pm

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springlullaby wrote: @Lacey:
1)How sure are you of Kmd being scum?
Hard to say. Personally I view the exchange he and I had as a case of honest signaling. I believe he was under the impression we were opposite mafia factions. Just my gut read of the situation right now. But it's a strong one.
2)If you are serious about your trade, then please vote yourself.
Please see posts by CSL and farside in this thread.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:22 pm

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farside22 wrote:I stated my reasoning and show quotes and placed in bold where you are backing off of what you stated. So unless you can explain how you are not fence-sitting in those 2 quotes are why you are saying you are not looking for afformation from players when I put in bold that you did all your doing is hoping to distract me to go after someone else.
Now there is more then one scum and untill you answer my questions and instead of bypassing my points your stuck with my vote on you.
I'm not changing my story. I have said all I can on this subject without repeating myself. Consider this topic dropped. If it means you will be voting me until eternity, then so be it. I will not respond to this topic again in the forum.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:22 pm

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CSL wrote:
Lacey has received a warning for infracting Rule 5. If this happens again...
I don't get the warning here. Are you saying that asking for one's lynch is off limit? If so, is the rule game quality motivated, or game philosophy motivated?
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:27 pm

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springlullaby wrote:
CSL wrote:
Lacey has received a warning for infracting Rule 5. If this happens again...
I don't get the warning here. Are you saying that asking for one's lynch is off limit? If so, is the rule game quality motivated, or game philosophy motivated?
She got warned for this portion of her post.

Lacey wrote:Since the mod doesn't like the idea of trading, and claims this is against my win condition, [...]
I cannot go into details about this inthread, though.

Also, please PM me about these things.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:30 pm

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Lacey wrote:
My belief:

kmd4390 was counting on me to flip the opposite mafia alignment of him letting him get off scott free, despite the fact that he is also mafia, making him seem as an obvious town and strengthening the position of his faction.
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And someone called my post in regards to them a post on pixie dust. :roll:
I'm not changing my story. I have said all I can on this subject without repeating myself. Consider this topic dropped. If it means you will be voting me until eternity, then so be it. I will not respond to this topic again in the forum.
Liar, liar pants on fire. This doesn't say what you were doing
I do care about is farside claiming that I was distancing myself from my vote, when I was doing the opposite, and farside's relative lack of activity this game, as a departure from what I have seen in the past.

And it's coming after I questioned farside's lack of participation as being abnormal.
How was my participation abnormal compared to last came looking at the first few days?

Again how would you characterize those vote as not fence sitting and second you lied about not looking for afformation from others on your vote when the bold clearly shows concern about what others think of you.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:34 pm

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farside22 wrote:How was my participation abnormal compared to last came looking at the first few days?
It has picked up lately. You were just very active in the last game I was in, and hadn't been as of yet.

For the rest, see PS 111. I'm serious.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:40 pm

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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:42 pm

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Lacey wrote:
No, no, no, no!


He is backing down to easy. Why? Were you hoping I was Fire Mafia and you were Ice or something? No backing down now.

Let's do this trade.
Me first, then kmd!
^Scum wouldn't do this.

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Lacey, you say that I honestly suspected you as scum when making the deal. Why am I scum who suspected you rather than town who suspected you?

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Lacey, "winning" the deal would have been either lynching you and you flip scum or I get a town reaction from you and lynch actual scum.

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I also feel I should mention that GorroHonda's posts gave me scum-vibes.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:45 pm

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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:46 pm

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Lacey's warning has been retracted. the situation did not require a warning as it did not break any rules, however, mentioning communication with the mod is poor form.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled lynching. C-:
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:48 pm

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GoroHonda wrote:my reads:

maf
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Why do you have a list with no reason's to support it?
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:49 pm

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Kmd4390 wrote:Lacey, you say that I honestly suspected you as scum when making the deal. Why am I scum who suspected you rather than town who suspected you?
Because you wanted to end the day before a replacement had even been found. That is pretty scummy. I think you are mafia for that reason, and because you neglected to remind town that if I had flipped mafia, it doesn't mean you aren't mafia too. Seems an odd thing to suggest given two mafia factions, as if someone flipping mafia would somehow exonerate the other?
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:50 pm

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farside22 wrote:
GoroHonda wrote:my reads:

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Why do you have a list with no reason's to support it?
is that not normal here?
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:51 pm

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CSL wrote:
Lacey's warning has been retracted. the situation did not require a warning as it did not break any rules, however, mentioning communication with the mod is poor form.
My apologies for mentioning it. I thought it important to do so, however since I was stepping back from a very firm position all of a sudden. I wanted to make it clear I would still be on that position if allowed by the rules.

Thank you for your hard work modding this game however. I appreciate all of the work you are doing, and I am sure my fellow players do too. :D
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:53 pm

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Goro: We like to have reason's as anyone can make a list and it doesn't say squat about a player. If everyone did list it would be a sad, sad game.

In in other news I'm offically on ignore from Lacey. Cool I broke a player and can call it a day.
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