SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Amished (1): UncertainKitten
Pomegranate (3): LlamaFluff, SpyreX, PoisonIvy
Not voting (11): Amished, animorpherv1, dramonic, Jahudo, Maemuki, Pomegranate, RayFrost, Rifka Viveka, Starbuck, sykedoc, zoraster

With

15

players alive, it takes

8

votes to lynch.

Still looking for a replacement for Pomegranate, by the way.

[UncertainKitten]

Sometimes you have to push to ascertain things.

I'm a little more sure on you. I'm still pretty good for Pom, but I'm piggybacking other cases there.

As for DN: Where did you ever say he was scummy and explain why, outside the cop thing?

Not much to say on either FFFF situation. I really need more context. Ah well.

And yeah, my meta of you is quite weak. One game does not a true meta make. You still feel so dramatically different from that it raised askance.

[Amished]

Yeah, and I'm trying to settle into not being as transparent as town cause I'm getting sick of only living a day or two tops.

I'd have to go look, but ... I can't remember who it was anymore.. could be Yos.. but anyways, there was a lot of differences in how I read the game compared to other people. As vanilla, this unfortunately has the effect of putting pressure on power roles as well as scum (since I haven't been able to hone myself to tell the difference as much yet); while as scum the people I agree with are power roles due to being more careful and stuff like that. An example of the latter (being scum and agreeing with a PR is here. I agreed a lot with chauchaudotcom who was the cop in the game.

ISO 15 I accused DN of active lurking (hmm, I should read through my own ISO more.. Beyond that I don't see a lot from me about him, but I don't mention a lot of people due to the size of the game. Activity and posts peak my curiosity/scumhunting/vote a lot more than inactivity.

At least I attacked Bogre who turned out to inherit a third party role and did attack Pom early on for now that I think about it rather valid reasons. I gave .. sotty7 a similar pass in Open 175 when I was questioning her about something and ignored it.

Vote: Pomegranate

[UncertainKitten]

Your last post seems to say very little.

And lessee, I replaced Bogre, right? We've been third party all game. The difference being I'm trying to play as a town contractor while he was playing as an idiot, just like MME. I mean, seriously, way to be proactive about being the perfect lyncher/lynchess pair.

But, one more post on DN and then just calling him scum out of almost nothing...not sure I like that either but I've probably done the same in the past, as town.

[animorpherv1]

I don't like the use of "We" in that sentence. I'd rather it be I, because as I see it, your an extension of Bogre in this game.

[SpyreX]

Tangent: If your "meta" was being transparently town when you were town why would you actively change it? Blahhhahhahh.

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Maybe UK can help me shed some light on this, and maybe this is one of the major problems I have:

The first time Amished even mentions me is after, day 2, I call into question the continued push on Parama. And then its way on the defensive.

And then any other interaction is directly a function of me mentioning him as a lynch canidate - pretty universally with the "your scumdar's off (but only in relation to me)" business.

And then the function of activity and the vanilla claim at this juncture :headdesk:

Yea. And I'll even give the benefit of the doubt and the vomit aside but "You're not playing to your meta" "I'm changing my meta away from being awesomely town"

W-hat?

[RayFrost]

Mae. I think SpyreX is looking for an opinion, which he's entitled to do. But first and foremost i think restating your millership would help.

DocPot is dead so my investigation was wrong there considering i investigated you and got innocent (WRONG) and i investigated DocPot and got innocent. (RIGHT).

I fear that while im the naive cop, DN would have inherited sane or insane cop abilites after my death but while recieving my innocents results which would be very very bad.

Lynching UK is bad. I like SpyreX/Frost's deal. Third non killing party is more or less a good thing to have to keeps the numbers up for as long as possible. But im wholly behind eventually lynching UK provided we hit some scum with her help.

Vote Pom

i already stated my reasoning why yesterday i believe. Llama's wrote more than enough reasons. Way more substantial evidence than I. Why is this stalling?

LMAO. Yes. I am familliar with you being the most notorious would be vig ever! However im yet to witness it.

Okay well Im the

Anti Russian Insane Cop.

N1:Maemuki(claimed miller). Innocent.

Investigated Maemuki because im always wary of my sanity of when im a cop. And i liked her enough to base my results on her believing her to be an innocent post restricted miller. And by the looks of it, im insane. Re: Breadcrumbs include rambling at the start of today.
iso 12 "Dakka Vokka" - VoDka. Synomous with Russians.
iso 13. I restated my like of Maemuki.
iso 13. E BENT. - Im crooked. Oh hey im insane!

Why didnt i come out earlier? Cause frankly its a bastard game and i was planning to investigate Parama tonight and potentially having something substantial until the whole back up anti russian cop thing came out.

Hey guys.

Caught scum?

[SpyreX]

I'm missing the bite Ray.

Those make sense?

[UncertainKitten]

I don't like the use of "We" in that sentence. I'd rather it be I, because as I see it, your an extension of Bogre in this game.

I prefer not being associated with someone who apparently failed this role forever. I don't think he even ever VOTED MME.

Well, I do recall Amished being ridiculously town (and the N1 kill) in Hellsing mafia. And I can almost see a logic in not wanting to be TOO town so you can actually play the game. But, still...I dunno. There wasn't a lot to draw out of Amished's ISO, which in and of itself is probably sign. Whether it's of me being burnt out or Amished being scummy I don't know.

And then the function of activity and the vanilla claim at this juncture :headdesk:

The vanilla claim makes me want him to die soon. It reminds me of another game that's result remains to be seen.

[RayFrost]

I fear that while im the naive cop,

DN would have inherited sane or insane cop abilites after my death but while recieving my innocents results which would be very very bad.

Okay well Im the

Anti Russian Insane Cop.

Hey guys.

Caught scum?

Bolded the important bits.

[UncertainKitten]

That's what I figured it was. But, was that claim the official role name or just conjecture of sanity?

[animorpherv1]

So wait, MME and you were collective Jesters? Like, if one got lynched, both win?

[Amished]

Cause when I'm vanilla town I get off'd right away for being so transparent. If people see that I'm not that transparent, I'm not vanilla so either I'm a prime target for a PR NK or scum. In no way does being transparent help other than if I ever get a miller role.

My last post is my explanation for how I scumhunt. There's a lot of people that might not share a viewpoint with me (DN was one, because now I know he was a PR). Posting a lot brings you to my attention (for obvious reasons) while people who lurk similarly don't come across my reads as much. DN active lurking (from my perspective) helped him fly under my radar a bit cause I tend to filter out fluff posts as I can't keep everything straight as it is sometimes.

@Spyre: Do you have a point with what you're trying to say about my reactions to you? You replace in 40 pages after the start and you expect me to really have a lot to say to you on day one? Or what?

For the claim: The only person that ani will listen to anymore is you. Since I don't believe ani is scum, I want his pro-town killing role to keep working for the town. Since I know that I can be shot at any time, I'm going to claim my role so that he can continue on shooting teh scumz rather than ending his vig ability by using it on me.

[LlamaFluff]

unvote
vote PosionIvy

[UncertainKitten]

So wait, MME and you were collective Jesters? Like, if one got lynched, both win?

Sorta. I didn't know he was a jester or I would have outright said that to get rid of both of us. I'm guessing he didn't know I was a lyncher til I claimed it. Why he didn't just roll over and die is beyond me. Seriously, I could do a damned better job of getting myself lynched than he ever did. He even had someone HELPING him, admittedly in a ham handed fashion.

Either way, I'm a jester now and this sucks >=[

[RayFrost]

That's what I figured it was. But, was that claim the official role name or just conjecture of sanity?

Both are sanity claims.

She claimed herself insane in her role claim but is now saying she's naive.

[SpyreX]

Read it again - getting Innocent on the miller made her think she was insane.
Getting innocent on the townie as well made her think (rightly unless madness) she is naive.

Insane wasn't part of the title.

I dig the dance though ray.

Ani's not reading again.

[LlamaFluff]

unvote

@ani

- Kill PosionIvy

[UncertainKitten]

For the claim: The only person that ani will listen to anymore is you. Since I don't believe ani is scum, I want his pro-town killing role to keep working for the town. Since I know that I can be shot at any time, I'm going to claim my role so that he can continue on shooting teh scumz rather than ending his vig ability by using it on me.

While conveniently protecting scum you from the shot with one of the easiest falseclaims in the book.

Was there any need to claim vanilla so soon? Pretty sure ani would check with other players before shooting you out of hand.

Hell, we SHOULD be having a fakevote system going on to determine vigs, with real votes going around as well so we can have a lynch by deadline.

LF is bugging me as well, but I haven't played with him in forever.

[Amished]

The thing I don't understand is why would there be a backup for a scum fake-claim? Particularly since Ivy claimed first (if I remember right).

[UncertainKitten]

Both are sanity claims.

She claimed herself insane in her role claim but is now saying she's naive.

But, what I mean is, did she claim it in the sense that "My role PM says I'm insane" or just "I'm an insane cop"? Further, did she claim insane AFTER or BEFORE naive? And were these both in the same day?

Just trying to flesh out the data, since I agree that's an inconsistency. Whether it's a scummy one remains to be seen.

Read it again - getting Innocent on the miller made her think she was insane.
Getting innocent on the townie as well made her think (rightly unless madness) she is naive.

Insane wasn't part of the title.

I dig the dance though ray.

This is how I read it as well.

[Amished]

@UK: Do you trust Ani as far as you can throw him?

[UncertainKitten]

The thing I don't understand is why would there be a backup for a scum fake-claim? Particularly since Ivy claimed first (if I remember right).

Was DN

specifically

Ivy's backup?

[RayFrost]

Both are sanity claims.

She claimed herself insane in her role claim but is now saying she's naive.

But, what I mean is, did she claim it in the sense that "My role PM says I'm insane" or just "I'm an insane cop"? Further, did she claim insane AFTER or BEFORE naive? And were these both in the same day?

Just trying to flesh out the data, since I agree that's an inconsistency. Whether it's a scummy one remains to be seen.

Read it again - getting Innocent on the miller made her think she was insane.
Getting innocent on the townie as well made her think (rightly unless madness) she is naive.

Insane wasn't part of the title.

I dig the dance though ray.

This is how I read it as well.

insane came before naive, different days, and one of her investigations is conveniently on a dead guy.

[UncertainKitten]

@UK: Do you trust Ani as far as you can throw him?

I trust him to not do anything so amazingly retarded it gets him lynched instantly. Then again, maybe I'm just too optimistic.

Once again,

why the fuck aren't we fakevoting?

We have a semi unlimited vig. Why aren't we fakevoting lynches again?