Mini 935 -- The Fountainhead (Completed)

[horrordude0215]

I Random voted him in RVS as a joke. I unvoted once we left RVS, especially once I was that he was at L-2.

[Zang]

Sorry, someone I play with on another site is Zhang. At least I didn't vote for you?

actually, you are not the first person to call me that.


And

Unvote

I forgot that I still had my vote on him

[SpyreX]

So, you're saying now we were still "RVS" at the point you asked him with your vote on him why he was being "overreactive"?

And, the difference is equal to one additional vote?

Hoozang lets get this done before page 5. Set a record.

[cruelty]

Not inclined to be concerned about Zang - he's in an ongoing game which obviously I can't discuss.

B) He's pandering to someone pressuring him, it doesn't feel like he's voting because he thinks it's the right thing to do (or he would've done it before) but instead because he wants to appease the person voting him.

That's how I read it. That said, I'm unwilling to push his wagon any further because I know that I've done this in the past as town (and I don't want to be a part of a day 1 quicklynch),


Spyrex, why are you so bloodthirsty?


RC:

You asked what my reply to Zang accusing me of not reading the rules was. I answered in this post:

I read the rules, I just don't like fruit. Also, Lorenzo Lamas.

I'm gonna vote: d3x. No reason.

Don't have much to add at this point, I'm not feeling that well so I'll be in and out the next day or two.

You then quoted later in your post the second two sentences from the above post. Hmm.

oh yeah,

unvote

.

[SpyreX]

Spyrex, why are you so bloodthirsty?

A better question is: why aren't you?

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[Budja]

That's how I read it. That said, I'm unwilling to push his wagon any further because I know that I've done this in the past as town (and I don't want to be a part of a day 1 quicklynch),

So would you be voting for Almaster if he had less votes? (i.e is he your scummiest).

@Almaster, see post 65. Fate is fluff but not scummy fluff.

I do not think this is much of a scum tell but instead a sign of a careful townie.

Uh, why?

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That unvote by horror was most certainly appeasement (i.e. scummy).

unvote, vote horror

.

[Porkens]

Vote: horrordude0215

Because bandwagons are full of win!

[Budja]

I forgot to add:

I'm confused as to how DDD bolding some words in a sentence and re-explaining what was already pretty clear (in my mind, at least) makes this true.

I like Budja's catch that AGM out and out called Zang a liar, but that wasn't good enough reason to vote for him.

I like Budja's catch that AGM out and out called Zang a liar, but that

it

wasn't good enough reason for

AGM

to vote for him

[Zang]

.

Changes the meaning significantly.

[d3x]

Dex: Do you feel that when someone gets defensive about an accusation, it's most likely a scum-tell or is there something different about Zang's over-reaction that makes it more scummy than if he were a townie over-reacting. Basically, what about his reaction made it more likely coming from scum over town in your opinion?

His posts don't quite add up, imo.

I don't buy his claim that he didn't realize SpyreX was asking him directly or what his question was. I believe he was being very direct in his line of questioning and even clarified a few times. When SpyreX reiterated the question as...

would "not reading the rules" be a scumtell?

Zang's answer was...

it was meant to be a random vote

Then after I asked, Zang responded...

you

{d3x}

explained what he was asking me and that it was specified toward me.

This was odd to me because I just wrote the exact same thing SpyreX did, adding "to you."

To sum up, I feel that he's being dishonest and all of this started before any real pressure came down on him. It was only after the pressure started building that he 'got it'.

Bonus- I'm also really not liking horror right about now.

Bonus x2-

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

Khorne is so unbelievably over-rated.

[cruelty]

That's how I read it. That said, I'm unwilling to push his wagon any further because I know that I've done this in the past as town (and I don't want to be a part of a day 1 quicklynch),

So would you be voting for Almaster if he had less votes? (i.e is he your scummiest).

Hey guys, crypto here.


Yeah I'd prob sling him a vote. I'm nowhere near suspicious enough to lynch though.

[Zang]

Dex: Do you feel that when someone gets defensive about an accusation, it's most likely a scum-tell or is there something different about Zang's over-reaction that makes it more scummy than if he were a townie over-reacting. Basically, what about his reaction made it more likely coming from scum over town in your opinion?

His posts don't quite add up, imo.

I don't buy his claim that he didn't realize SpyreX was asking him directly or what his question was. I believe he was being very direct in his line of questioning and even clarified a few times. When SpyreX reiterated the question as...

would "not reading the rules" be a scumtell?

Zang's answer was...

it was meant to be a random vote

Then after I asked, Zang responded...

you

{d3x}

explained what he was asking me and that it was specified toward me.

This was odd to me because I just wrote the exact same thing SpyreX did, adding "to you."

To sum up, I feel that he's being dishonest and all of this started before any real pressure came down on him. It was only after the pressure started building that he 'got it'.

Bonus- I'm also really not liking horror right about now.

Bonus x2-

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

Khorne is so unbelievably over-rated.

once again, I even said that "they're random votes" after he said that then I said "it was a random vote" when I was addressed more directly.

[SpyreX]

While still confused at Zang's reaction I DO follow his logic enough that I can buy it for now.

d3x why you gotta be a hater?

[Fate]

Vote: Al GM

for having a lie detector and not sharing... /pout

THIS is who I meant, not DDD. I have no idea why I got the names mixed up (Panther avatars? >_>).

Why is Kthx's vote any better than Horror's, RC?

Uh, time for some self-deprecating analysis:

I got DDD confused with D3x because I thought DDD was a nickname for D3x because I thought his name was actually Dx3 which would mean D "times three" or three D's.

I then made the jump from D3x to Kthx because THEY both had panther avatars, not DDD and Kthx.

Now that I have you all thoroughly entertained or confused:
@Zang: Ok we get it, you're over-defensive. Can you start looking for scum now?
@Horror: Who do you think is most likely scum on your wagon? Off your wagon?

[Porkens]

That's how I read it. That said, I'm unwilling to push his wagon any further because I know that I've done this in the past as town (and I don't want to be a part of a day 1 quicklynch),

So would you be voting for Almaster if he had less votes? (i.e is he your scummiest).

Hey guys,

crypto

here.


Yeah I'd prob sling him a vote. I'm nowhere near suspicious enough to lynch though.

Why are you renaming yourself crypto? Do you expect us to call you that?

[Budja]

My fault, sorry for the name mix-up.

[HowardRoark]

Vote Count -- D1

horrordude0215 (4) -- RedCoyote, SpyreX, Fate, Budja
Zang (3) -- d3x, Porkens, AlmasterGM
AlmasterGM (1) -- Debonair Danny DiPietro

Not Voting (4) -- horrordude0215, Kthxbye, cruelty, Zang

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is 02 APR 2010 at 9:15pm UTC. (Countdown)

[cruelty]

Why are you renaming yourself crypto? Do you expect us to call you that?

i was joking about budja's post where he quoted me as 'crypto'.

[Porkens]

OH. Sorry, I thought you had renamed yourSELF.

unvote, Vote: Horror

[horrordude0215]

Mod: I'm gonna be V/LA until March 8th... I'll catch up then.

[Fate]

*wagon forms*

*wagon target disappears*

*town looks around, confused*

[SpyreX]

*town shrugs and proceeds with the bloodletting*

[RedCoyote]

Why is Kthx's vote any better than Horror's, RC?

I don't think I would say it's much better, except for the fact that, joking aside, he may have been offput by that post. Further, Zang's wagon was the larger one at the time (especially given the fact that I wanted to join it), so I had to make sure everyone who was there had a reason for being there.

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I like how people are calling me fluffy and unsubstantive when we have these two posts from Fate. They seem significantly more guilty of this crime than me. Budja and RC, why the delay or no response to Fate's posts?

I

called you fluffy. I would strongly disagree that Fate's posts aren't serious. I mean, the second example, okay, I'll give that to you, but the first example makes a strong point.

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Unvote

as we are no longer in RVS.

Oh, you know I got to hate on that. "Randomly" voting the biggest wagon with people that have serious suspicions of Zang? Either you're not paying enough attention, or your lying. Neither circumstance is flattering for you.
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You then quoted later in your post the second two sentences from the above post. Hmm.

Yeah, I read it. I was just trying to say I agreed with Zang's post there.

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While still confused at Zang's reaction I DO follow his logic enough that I can buy it for now.

I wouldn't go that far. I'd still say Zang's a good lynch, actually.

I do think there is a bit of a language barrier, and I do think it's very possible that his panic might not mean jack. Still, I've supported lynches for less than that before, so I'd have no problem taking Zang out today. That said, I think I am the minority with that train of thought, and you don't exactly see me in a rush to leave the horror wagon just yet.

[d3x]

I do think there is a bit of a language barrier

Hrmm... I'd rather find out than make-up possible excuses for him.

@Zang- Is English your primary language?

@Kthx- If neither wagon is Vote-worthy, who is?

@DDDP- You don't like the Zang wagon, how do you feel about the horror wagon?

So would you be voting for Almaster if he had less votes? (i.e is he your scummiest).

Yeah I'd prob sling him a vote. I'm nowhere near suspicious enough to lynch though.

He has a single Vote on him. What gives? How many fewer Votes on him would you like him to have?

[cruelty]

He has a single Vote on him. What gives? How many fewer Votes on him would you like him to have?

He had at least 4 at one point, I said that before the latest votecount; I'm not sitting here tallying for current vote counts at this point in the game.

vote agm

This feels familiar somehow.

[Fate]

Well since all our wagons have been for "appeasement"

Unvote:

Vote: Cruelty

He seems like a good substitute until that other old guy gets back.