Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Netopalis]

Attention, players! Deadline reminder: your first deadline is on March 10, 2010 at 4 PM EST.

[Riddick]

He voted farside in a serious manner for one thing that was only vaguely scummy, if at all. That's what I meant by premature.

Riiight. But you didn't say that. At all.

Well, that's what I've been trying to say this whole time.

Well the whole point was I find what I thought you did scummy (shutting down early scumhunting, extending random voting stage, things like that) but if it's actually for what you say then that's fair enough. I'm just..not sure if it is or not.

I dislike that you find me to be scum yet refuse to provide evidence of scummy things I have done. Unless you count the only things you've reacted to regarding me to be scummy, in which case I'm thoroughly confused, as I don't see how they are scummy.

Why do you dislike that? And of course I count them, I quoted them for a reason. Your explanation for the FOS is weird, it definitely doesn't seem that's what you were implying with the original statement, at all. But hey, I'm not voting you so it's all good for the moment!

Because I don't like being called "definitely scum" without there being evidence for it. And you may not be voting me, but you might as well be.

If I called you 'definitely scum' I was probably exaggerating, if I thought that you WOULD have my vote. It's a gut read atm, but I'll elaborate if I decide to vote you. I'm not chamber, lol.

Replacing out is a null tell for the most part.

[Riddick]

Fucked up them quotes badly, but it's readable.

[DedicatedScribe]

Meh. I am not going to join the horrordude wagon...for now.

[SaintKerrigan]

Meh, I'm not sure I buy into this horrordude wagon.

Would love to see more Ace votes, though.

[SaintKerrigan]

Also, I'm not sure I buy into the Crypto "scumslip" theory.

[horrordude0215]

Horrordude, I also asked if one of those posts I quoted was in reply to something.

Looking back, I don't know why I made that post... I think it was just so I could make a post, unfortunately. I was really busy during that period of time and wasn't sure how much I was going to be able to post.

[molestargazer]

Would love to see more Ace votes, though.

Could you give a link to / summarise a case on ace? Not spotted one.

[SaintKerrigan]

Would love to see more Ace votes, though.

Could you give a link to / summarise a case on ace? Not spotted one.

Not posting much, claims he's not caught up, yet places a vote on Horrordude. Seems like active lurking scum to me.

[Ythan]

Deadline means no lynch, remember.

[Riddick]

Sk's recent posts make me feel better about him.

I'd not mind an ace lynch, had forgotten he was in the game. brb lurker checking.

[Riddick]

Rikenslope and Ace both have 4 posts each.

Riken has at least given some reasons for suspecting some people but he needs far more content.

Ace needs to post or perish too.

[Netopalis]

Konowa replaces Musher333 effective immediately.

[Ythan]

I think they're just flakes. By all means analyze what posts they have made but asking for more content is secondary to asking to stop flaking.

[Konowa]

@Ythan: Who's scum?

[Ythan]

Dude, Rich, and Kerrigan or Beater. Maybe both, I don't know how many there are.

[Konowa]

Still reading.
Brief why's?

[Ythan]

Their role PMs said so.

Serious answer, I'll knock something together in a bit.

[Konowa]

Hrm.

While Ythan is getting back to me, this question is open to everyone else too.
Who is scum and why?

kthxbai.

[Netopalis]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 11

ace5993

- 1 - SaintKerrigan - (L-10)

Crypto

- 3 - horrordude0215, Farside22, Dr. Cyanide - (L-8)

DedicatedScribe

- 1 - Cirno - (L-10)

horrordude0215

- 9 - pman5595, Ythan, Crypto, Lowell, Nobody Special, ace5993, MoleStargazer, RichardGHP, JBernier93 - (L-2)

Rikenslope

- 1 - RayFrostWikiManager - (L-10)

WRP_Beater

- 2 - Riddick, Rikenslope - (L-9)

Players not voting: DedicatedScribe, Konowa, WRP_Beater

[pman5595]

Who is scum and why?

horror is scum. Lots of little things make it a general gut feeling for newb scum. And Richard is playing his meta, which is almost equivalent to being scum

[Ythan]

Horror is my biggest read, the others have less evidence and more gut, so let's look at him for the moment and flesh out the cases on the others when he's dead. If it's not the least bit inconvenient iso me and look at posts 34, 36, 56, the bit of 92 about him, the bit of 105 about him, and the bit of 142 about him. It adds up. If you would like me to explain or elaborate on any little thing then by all means ask.

[farside22]

Am I incorrect in finding that requests for replacement tend toward scum?

I think they're just flakes. By all means analyze what posts they have made but asking for more content is secondary to asking to stop flaking.

Seriously what's the difference between those who asked for replacement and the flakers who will need to be replaced (most likely)

[Lowell]

I feel for them. This is 28 pages in a week. I give the lurkers

slightly

more credit than I would in another game.

[farside22]

I think SK is scum for following BW and now going on to lurker lynching policy. He has offered little to nothing and sets my scumdar off the hook.
Crypto is my number one suspect for the following and called WRP a VT:

I'm offically capatilizing on a slip from someone who stated that WRP was paraphrasing a town PM when in fact there was nothing close to that being the town win condition and Crypto didn't recognize it means scum.

(condescending sigh)

I win with the town.

Finally Richard: The I claimed at L-5 and asked players what they would do if they got a gulity on a player. The player that wants to follow BW and sit on his thumb day 1. Yay I still think he's scum.