Open 203: C/9 Mafia Wins!

[danakillsu]

I do enough to not risk lynching a cop on day 1.

Actually, yeah. That's true. Let's give him a chance to tell us what he finds in the night.

unvote

And I think I shouldn't vote for wdjat, because I don't believe lowell's claim and I don't think they can both be scum. (THIS IS WHY I DROPPED MY CASE ON WDJAT IN THE FIRST PLACE).

vote: kyle99

in hopes that he will start contributing to this game.

Vote Count-Sho
Lowell-kunkstar7, kyle99, danakillsu
danakillsu-Lowell, wdjat
Kunkstar-Gayle, Gheb
Wdjat-Tatetothetot
Kyle99-Max, danakillsu

[Gheb]

Unvote Vote Kyle

[The1fifi]

I do enough to not risk lynching a cop on day 1.

Actually, yeah. That's true. Let's give him a chance to tell us what he finds in the night.

unvote

And I think I shouldn't vote for wdjat,

because I don't believe lowell's claim

and I don't think they can both be scum. (THIS IS WHY I DROPPED MY CASE ON WDJAT IN THE FIRST PLACE).

vote: kyle99

in hopes that he will start contributing to this game.

So you don't believe the claim, but you unvote and believe that those who belive in the claim aren't scum, excluding the possibility of wdjat being scum, after he pressuring you. Plus you ignored his acusations in his post, made 1 hour before yours.

Vote Dana

[danakillsu]

So you don't believe the claim, but you unvote and believe that those who belive in the claim aren't scum, excluding the possibility of wdjat being scum, after he pressuring you. Plus you ignored his acusations in his post, made 1 hour before yours.

This makes absolutely no sense! I didn't vote for wdjat because I still believe that lowell is scum, and I don't believe they can both be scum. I didn't vote for lowell because he might actually be a cop, and I want to give him a chance to investigate. What about that is hard to understand, in words that I can understand?

[Gayle]

DON'T YOU PROD ME GOD DAMN IT. DON'T YOU FUCKING PROD ME.

er... I mean, I'm here. I'll make some kind of post later.

[Max]

Going to re-read and post tomorrow.

[The1fifi]

So you don't believe the claim, but you unvote and believe that those who belive in the claim aren't scum, excluding the possibility of wdjat being scum, after he pressuring you. Plus you ignored his acusations in his post, made 1 hour before yours.

This makes absolutely no sense! I didn't vote for wdjat because

I still believe that lowell is scum,

and I don't believe they can both be scum. I didn't vote for lowell because

he might actually be a cop

, and I want to give him a chance to investigate. What about that is hard to understand, in words that I can understand?

...

[danakillsu]

@fifi
You haven't answered my question.
And those bolded quotes...
If you're trying to say what I think you're trying to say...
you're not too smart or your trying to ignore the obvious truth.
Just because I believe someone is scum doesn't mean they can't be a cop. On the off-chance that he is a cop, I don't want to be responsible for his lynch.

[kyle99]

Alright, sorry guys, but I'm gonna have to ask to be replaced. I got kidney stones and I'm in the hospital. Was meaning to post saying I wasn't going to be here but didn't really have the opportunity. Have a good game guys.

[hewitt]

Wrong attitude to take. Why do you think it's a good idea to write off Max, Gayle and me based solely on our attitude? Because that's really all you seem to be talking about in your comments on those those two.

Man this doesn't follow at all. How does my case convince you of this?

This point is worth discussing, but I don't feel you've backed up your opinion sufficiently. Please tell me more about your option so discourse can proceed.

Does his history of playing in a particular way affect your scum read on him like at all or do you just like him as a lynch because you think his play is weak?

I clearly didn't write off you three, I just didn't find anything substantial in any of your guys' posts and mainly just saw attitude. That doesn't mean I won't be able to find anything substantial in the future, we'll just have to see I suppose.

Your case doesn't convince me danakillsu is most likely town it was her reaction to your pressure. I think she responded to a crappy case very appropriately and calmly, as I would expect a town player to.

My past game history with Lowell doesn't affect my read on him this game but I do like to generally lynch weaker players earlier in the game. If there isn't a good lead on scum on D1 then I pursue a weak player lynch until a better option arises.

@hewitt What the eff is EMPKing?

An awful Mafia player.

Unvote Vote Kyle

So that was some great, shameless bandwagoning without providing any original insight into why you're voting Kyle. How has nobody else noticed this crappiness yet?

[Gheb]

I explained my suspicions on Kyle long ago. And what's wrong with a wagon anyways.

[tatetothetot]

Sorry everyone, prod received and I am not replacing out. I can assure you I am usually much more active, just kinda had a hectic schedule at school recently. I will post something of content latter tonight.

[Gayle]

Apparently, I got prodded anyway. I'll post something after class today.

[Max]

Can I say that kyle is still scum so even though he's being replaced we can lynch him now still.

[The1fifi]

Can I say that kyle is still scum so even though he's being replaced we can lynch him now still.

wow =O

Unvote Vote Max

[Lowell]

Can I say that kyle is still scum so even though he's being replaced we can lynch him now still.

wow =O

Unvote Vote Max

I guess I actually don't understand the dramatic reaction here.

[Max]

He was scum so this new player is scum... Where has my logic gone wrong? I'm not voting him because he lurked, I'm voting him because he's scum.

[The1fifi]

You can't be sure. I say we let the replace post.

[danakillsu]

He was scum so this new player is scum... Where has my logic gone wrong? I'm not voting him because he lurked, I'm voting him because he's scum.

No, you're right. I still think kyle is somewhat scummy. However, his non-contribution has been explained, so I'm ready to take my vote off if his replacement can make a good case for himself.

[hewitt]

I explained my suspicions on Kyle long ago. And what's wrong with a wagon anyways.

Yeah and that was over two weeks ago. So if you don't mind can you go quote your case and then outline/update it. And there's nothing wrong with a wagon, but there is something wrong with people piling on for the sake of piling on.

[Gayle]

Well, I'm back and all caught up. I don't think that Lowell's behavior was so scummy that we should not believe his claim (I actually have a null read of him). I still don't like kunk's vote on Lowell, as it still feels manufactured to me.

I don't have a problem with kyle99/his replacement so far. In fact, his was the only halfway justified vote on the lowell wagon.

Now, I'm going to change my vote to hewitt, because he is the second person to compare me to ABR, and I don't take kindly to that.

My problem with hewitt is that his reason for wanting to lynch lowell is a

policy lynch

based on

meta

. Another problem is that I don't like the way he responded to Gheb (when he pointed out that Lowell was at L-1), or his subsequent exchange with Fifi. Particularly,

No I mean like I really want to know what your qualifications for voting someone are.

seems like a complete lie to me.

Vote: hewitt

For advocating a policy lynch and the bad voodoo vibes I get from his responses to Gheb/Fifi.

[hewitt]

My problem with hewitt is that his reason for wanting to lynch lowell is a

policy lynch

based on

meta

. Another problem is that I don't like the way he responded to Gheb (when he pointed out that Lowell was at L-1), or his subsequent exchange with Fifi. Particularly,

No I mean like I really want to know what your qualifications for voting someone are.

seems like a complete lie to me.

For advocating a policy lynch and the bad voodoo vibes I get from his responses to Gheb/Fifi.

Incorrect statement. I voted to lynch Lowell because I know he's a weak player and hasn't done anything to change my mind in THIS game. He's someone I would be very frightened to have last far in the game if he is indeed a town player.

The weird thing about this set-up is that basically anybody can just claim cop if they wanted.

[Gayle]

Incorrect statement. I voted to lynch Lowell because I know he's a weak player and hasn't done anything to change my mind in THIS game.

Lowell- I feel like every game I play with Lowell it's the same story. He doesn't really do anything and then cracks underneath a straw of pressure and lashes out and professes that he's more helpful than X player and that it'd be a mistake to lynch him and we'd be dumb to do that. I know that in every game I've played with him he's been extremely unhelpful and more of a hindrance to the town than anything. A player I would be very scared to see travel far in the game and have in any tight situations.

So for that reason I'm going to

Unvote, Vote: Lowell

You don't say anything about his behavior in this game, or how he hasn't done anything to change your mind. Rather you say that Lowell should be lynched because of his behavior in past games.

And your last post isn't any better. It is still advocating a policy lynch based on meta. You are still saying that your main reason for wanting to lynch Lowell is because of his behavior in past games.

[The1fifi]

Umm.. that is totally true. I forgot totally about the 1/18 chance of being cop.

[Gayle]

How dare you simulpost me. I demand that you undo that post immediately.