Mini 928 - Bloodlust Mafia Remix - Over!

[havingfitz]

What are your legitimate reasons for what you are meant to call "lurking?"

If i told you, mith would have to kill you (he'd have my head first though). I'm not sure how publicised it is.

His last post here was:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject: 6

In his other game he has posted 5 times between then and now. It's Farside's current theme game being run in Theme Park. (Im not sure how much info on other games so i decided not to quote time stamps.

He was online a couple of minutes ago too, it tells you who's online at the bottom of the index page.

Ooooooh K on the "lurking".

That is bothersome about bv310. He is actually

due a prod

as I expect a few others are (at least close to).

WTH...

FoS bv310

.

Too bad there are so many lurkers...ya can't vote 'em all.

[Nachomamma8]

Day 1 Votecount:

Haylen (1) - julienwolfe
The1fifi (1) - bv130
julienwolfe (1) - ConfidAnon
Dr.Cyanide (3) - Civil Scum, Concerned, almightybob
havingfitz (2) - Haylen, MrSuave
Civil Scum (1) - The1fifi
Concerned (1) - Dr.Cyanide
MrSuave (2) - Mr.Sandman, havingfitz

Not Voting (0): ___

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Prodding bv130. No one else is due for a prod.

Deadline is in... four days.

[Concerned]

The fire on Cyanide has died a bit which is disappointing to me, I feel like he's worth more pressuring at the very least.
- Cyanide who's scum at this point?

Fifi, Haylen and Suave are all anti-town but I'm not sure it equates to scum at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if they were (especially fifi) but it could also just be how they play.

[havingfitz]

I still don't like Cyanide's defensiveness.

Scum reads atm:
Cyanide
Fifi
BV130

Does bv310's active lurking move him up any on your scum list? I assume I'm at the top of your list since you have your vote on me.

While I don't care too much for lurkers (especially townie ones because they do nothing to help town and only cast suspicions upon themselves

for

lurking) I really don’t like active lurkers. And while I may give lurkers who are nowhere to be found elsewhere on the site or who have provided worthwhile inputs when they have posted some benefit of the doubt, I view active lurker’s absences as intentional and I can not think of any reasons for town to intentionally avoid a game.

I remain suspicious of MrSuave based on giving him the benefit of the doubt of being a capable, active, experienced player. Ie...he knows what he is doing. Of course having never played with him before I would very well be completely wrong. If I have time later perhaps I will do some meta’ing on him. But I digress....

Unvote: MrSuave

FoS: MrSuave

Vote: bv310

@all...what are your thoughts regarding lurkers...whether they be active or nowhere to be found?

[almightybob]

@all...what are your thoughts regarding lurkers...whether they be active or nowhere to be found?

Much the same as you really. True lurking, i.e. not accessing the site for a few days in a row, is a nulltell. There's just as many reasons why Town would not come on for a few days as there are scum reasons.
Active lurking is slightly different. Avoiding one thread while posting in another is strange, although getting caught up in one game in particular when something interesting happens is something that happens to me as either alignment. But what bv's doing is dodgy, yes.

Haylen, fitz asked you about your self-voting meta as Town in 222, where he points out that from what he saw you self-vote in anti-Town or Power Roles. Not sure why you didn't address that part of his post, but could you please?

[Haylen]

Haylen, fitz asked you about your self-voting meta as Town in 222, where he points out that from what he saw you self-vote in anti-Town or Power Roles. Not sure why you didn't address that part of his post, but could you please?

False Meta.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 59#1856359 <-- Scum
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 83#1870483 <-- SK
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 81#1856281 <-- Townie
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 58#2061658 <-- Townie
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 27#2087127 <-- Scum Encrypter
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 24#1750224 <-- SK (this is where it all started, there was no self vote)
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 23#1949223 <-- Vig
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 70#2045570 <-- Vig
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 79#1948979 <-- Tracker
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 46#1981746 <-- SK

And I think that's all of them. You will notice that twice I was an ordinary townie.

Does bv310's active lurking move him up any on your scum list? I assume I'm at the top of your list since you have your vote on me.

Oops sorry, that vote is left over from where I thought McZombie was lying and didnt know she's been replaced.

Unvote

I find BV scummiest at the moment for the very obvious active lurking.

Vote BV130

@all...what are your thoughts regarding lurkers...whether they be active or nowhere to be found?

Lynch the active ones, replace the non existant players.

[The1fifi]

Haylen adds no content to the game, and jumps on a lurker wagon.. nice.

Fos

[almightybob]

And I think that's all of them. You will notice that twice I was an ordinary townie.

When you say that's all of them, do you mean that's all your games, or that's all your self-votes? If it's the latter, do you have lots of games where you didn't self-vote?

[The1fifi]

<-- SK (this is where it all started, there was no self vote)

[Haylen]

There are a lot of games where i wont self vote such as those i've replaced into after the RVS stage and Newbie games.

One or two of those games were just ridiculous claims cause it'll become another power piece if it reaches the end of the board.

[Haylen]

fuck fuck fuck

[Haylen]

And I think that's all of them. You will notice that twice I was an ordinary townie.

When you say that's all of them, do you mean that's all your games, or that's all your self-votes? If it's the latter, do you have lots of games where you didn't self-vote?

That's all of my games with ridiculous claims sometimes including self voting. That's just under a third of my games, the are a few ongoing which I cant talk about aswell. It's also what i would call a more recent development. Another third of my games are newbies, I'd never fake claim and self vote in a newbie game, i'm meant to be teaching. The other third were games that occured either before the recent development or ones i've replaced into passed the RVS stage.

I dont consider it a Random Voting Stage, I consider it to be a Joke Vote stage.

[havingfitz]

fuck fuck fuck

I like what you're saying. It's just a little vague. Can you elaborate?

Also...regarding the 'false meta,' I managed to find 6 of your games on Google, three of which you were VT (with no self claims) and the other three where you were a killer of some sort. The links you provided just mait appears you are a lot more likely to self claim when you have something to hide....which is why I find you suspicious.

[Haylen]

Uhh...I just went through my games on the wiki and posted my links to them and my roles. Those links are in order in which I started them. I actually always self vote and claim now regardless of role or alignment because I've found I take the game way too seriously and this helps me to make a game out of it and stop it from being too personal.

fuck fuck fuck

I like what you're saying. It's just a little vague. Can you elaborate?

The post before my fuck fuck fuck post was half for this game half for Chess Mafia...I was writing two posts at once in different tabs and got them mixed up

[havingfitz]

fuck fuck fuck

I like what you're saying. It's just a little vague. Can you elaborate?

Also...regarding the 'false meta,' I managed to find 6 of your games on Google, three of which you were VT (with no self claims) and the other three where you were a killer of some sort.

The links you provided just mait appears you are a lot more likely to self claim when you have something to hide....which is why I find you suspicious

.

D'oh...EBWOP: Meant to say:

The links you provided just magnify the point I was making as it appears you are a lot more likely to self claim when you have something to hide....which is why I find you suspicious.

[Haylen]

It probably looks like that's the case now, but it won't be in a few months time. It just happens that ive received PR's and Scum roles more recently than i have received Vanilla.

[julienvonwolfe]

unvote Haylen

When I have more time (after class tonight), I'll go through the thread properly and decide who I want to lynch.

[Civil Scum]

Gotta pick someone soon, deadline approaches

I'm willing to give Cyanide the benefit of the doubt for just a little while. That he's new and just tried to go too big too early and commandier the game.

Off the top of my head I'd say I'd vote for Fifi or Sauve. But I should also re-read some and make a good decision.

[Dr.Cyanide]

"- Cyanide who's scum at this point? "

Concerned has my suspicions, as well as CivilScum. Don't like Bv' lurking. Looking into everyone else at the moment.

Post more substantial content soon.

[Dr.Cyanide]

McZombie with her 3 posts.
What's up with that?

[Concerned]

If the cyanide wagon isn't happening my vote is for fifi, for me he's been the second scummiest at this point, and if he is town his erratic vote hoping isn't helping.

the1fifi

With Suave, I see more of someone who's fooling around than someone who's scummy, I'd say the odds of him being scum are the same odds that random.org would generate him a scum role at this point, in other words I find it difficult to justify saying he's

more

scummy, than average.

[Concerned]

My mistake

Vote : the1fifi

[Civil Scum]

Apparently Cyanide just contradicted himself again.

vote: cyanide

Is still after Concerned for OMGUS only as I can see.

Going after me was no longer a ploy, again, or it wasn't, yes it was I meant it, just kidding, it was a ploy---> etc

Town points for Bv for Cyanide wanting to lynch him.

Havingfitz replaced McZombie ages ago.

I'm just remembering when Cyanide "yawned in my direction" a few posts after he was screaming at me.

Let's get that one going.

[MrSuave]

I still don't like Cyanide's defensiveness.

Scum reads atm:
Cyanide
Fifi
BV130

Does bv310's active lurking move him up any on your scum list? I assume I'm at the top of your list since you have your vote on me.

While I don't care too much for lurkers (especially townie ones because they do nothing to help town and only cast suspicions upon themselves

for

lurking) I really don’t like active lurkers. And while I may give lurkers who are nowhere to be found elsewhere on the site or who have provided worthwhile inputs when they have posted some benefit of the doubt, I view active lurker’s absences as intentional and I can not think of any reasons for town to intentionally avoid a game.

I remain suspicious of MrSuave based on giving him the benefit of the doubt of being a capable, active, experienced player. Ie...he knows what he is doing. Of course having never played with him before I would very well be completely wrong. If I have time later perhaps I will do some meta’ing on him. But I digress....

Unvote: MrSuave

FoS: MrSuave

Vote: bv310

@all...what are your thoughts regarding lurkers...whether they be active or nowhere to be found?

you should look at my games, I'll post the links later, but I have a business project due in 2 days so I'm a little busy. once that's done I'll be free to post.

[Dr.Cyanide]

Right, so I'm obv.scum just because I still suspect you? How is that not OMGUS?

If you are scum, you both know I'm town- so aiming for a mislynch with the reasoning of my acting 'crazy'.etc. Or Civil isn't scum as whoever had meta on him says this is what he's like as town, but the way Concerned jumped on it looks scummy to me.