I'll be up front about this. These are mostly
gut reactions.
It's why I didn't feel comfortable about posting this earlier, but after having read some great arguments about why withholding your thoughts isn't really optimal, especially on day one, I suppose I better start saying something. To avoid a gigantic post, I won't quote anything but instead reference posts by number.
Fiyr:
I really don't like Fiyr's mass posting in a row. A pet peeve of mine is triple posting or more. However, but looking at the intent behind it, it shows a player whose mind is constantly keeping tabs on what is going on with everyone. She really does go out of her way to address multiple topics of discussion involving multiple players. (See the string of posts starting near 208). Perhaps an argument for pro-town.
Unsight challenged Fiyr's unvote in post (237), and Fiyr's response is
very close after. In a nutshell, the reasoning is that she doesn't have a strong read on her current vote and doesn't want to accidentally contribute to a mislynch. This reasoning is similar in my style of play and shows an intent to avoid making costly mistakes. Of course, the converse could be true and someone may read this as a "well disguised waffling." Pulling a vote because you are unsure can make you LOOK like you don't want to be responsible for the town's downfall, and could thus have scum intent behind it. Course, having just written this, this is likely a good example of WIFOM thinking, and I should likely just flat out disregard this gut feeling.
FluffyGiggles
He went out of his way to point out that everyone shouldn't trust Netopalis at face value because of his status as an IC. Of course, Carl Sagan made the same argument with more confusing, and more aggressive language. Yet, people are pointing fingers at Carl Sagan, but not FluffyGiggles. I'm honestly confused by this inconsistency within the town, making a read on this specific player even harder. I really don't know if he's town or scum.
Netopalis
Said multiple times "if I were scum" in early posts. I know being an IC he has to make some of these posts in order to avoid an upcry from everyone that he could have "manipulated the game with his IC status if he's mafia". Saying you could be mafia once I think is fine. But three or four times? What is the intent behind the constant reminder?Is he going out of the way to say so? I'm not reading heavily onto this point, but it's making me suspicious.
Legions
Said in post 153 that he tends to be more to the point. Yet, (in my opinion) the entire post has very little substance. Admitting you are bad seems like an excuse to stay out of discussion.
In post 158, Legions does understand that Netopalis as scum would be very bad. I too fear the possibility that a talkative player could be scum and direct the town towards their doom. But again, I'm confused. The language of the post makes it seem like Legions suspects Netopalis, but won't follow through vote for him. To me that's being inconsistent, and a reason for suspicion. Perhaps a reason for this is that he wants to directly oppose Netopalis without casting a vote, making us believe he is against Netopalis when in fact they could be working together as scum. A possibility, but my evidence is weak at best.
Julano
I like Julano's summary (post 169) of Netopalis' post. Lays out potential options. I think summary posts like this help keep the town on track and aware of the discussion topics at hand. I would believe Julano to be pro-town due to the intent behind his posts.
McGriddle
I actually read McGriddle's "impatience" in post 177 as a way to "get the ball rolling." 11 pages in and no strong votes towards any one person, I think the town might be spinning its wheels. As a town member, perhaps McGriddle wants to thrust the discussion again.
However, the more I read McGriddle's posts, the more confused I become. I'm seeing very little logic in them except a flat out dislike of Carl Sagan. I don't like the reasoning behind McGriddle's vote and get this feeling that he is purposely trying to confuse the town, a scummy read. He is flat out ignoring Carl Sagan because he didn't like his first post, as shown in post 196.
Unsight
I know I said above that I would start sharing my thoughts based on people commenting that not sharing them fails to benefit anyone. Unsight is definitely one of the people who convinced me to change my ways up. But I have to wonder if the intent behind is positive or negative. It's played off of as "posting more is more fun." (Post 185.) It could be legitimate appeal to emotion, a townie trying to get its other players more involved and open up new areas of discussion, or a scum trying to get a townie to share lines of discussion that could be bad. I don't know. It could be very legit, or could be trying to get me to ease up on my fears of giving bad leads. Unsight calls it a "motivational speech." Perhaps these thoughts could be completely unrelated to the game at hand.
What is more relevant is that Unsight is asking many pointed and strong questions. Likely protown. Unsight's post in 214 makes a very good point. There is inconsistency here between McGriddle and Netopalis. I think this particular line of questioning could be looked at a bit more. It makes be believe that either McGriddle or Netopalis is scum but not both.
Unsight's sheer involvement in many conversations is a strong pro town read. In fact, I would be very shocked to find out if you were scum.
Carl Sagan
We've discussed Carl Sagan's interesting style of posting for quite some time. But I want to look at post 224. It seems very early to ask for doctor protection. In my opinion he is actually pro-town because of this. He could be the investigator or could be overly confident in his reading abilities. I don't think he's scum because asking for doctor protection in itself raises a red flag. It would be a
VERY VERY unusual move
to ask for protection since you are likely NOT to get it without more proof. Why ask for it if he is scum? So I think Carl Sagan is pro-town.
Thus, to wrap things up, I have three potential scummy leads. Legions, Netopalis, and McGriddle. Maybe FluffyGiggles, but it's a null read at this point. But of the three, I feel most strongly about legions. Strong enough to actually cast my vote.
Vote: Legions
Group co-operation is like a puzzle. If the pieces don't fit, you aren't pushing hard enough.
