Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

Ythan · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:18 am

RichardGHP wrote:
Dr.Cyanide wrote:"Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?"
What kind of defence is this?
Well if you can think of a better one, please share it with me.

It's your job to defend yourself. Don't ask us to exhaust every possibility before lynching you.

Riddick · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:23 am

horrordude's vote on farside early on for avoiding the pr question is awful.

Riddick · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:28 am

A serious vote (which is what I took horror's as) against farside for not liking the hypothetical role question is in my opinion premature, and therefore, worthy of a little suspicion. Hense, I fos'd him, as opposed to voting. If I were to vote horror dude, I would be hypocritical, as I would be prematurely putting a serious vote on him.

Why was any of this FOS worthy? You should be voting for your top suspect, so if he felt that farside had done something scummy how is it premature to vote for her. Saying it's too early for serious votes is pretty stupid.

And what's all this talk of premature? So when exactly can you place a serious vote on someone? 4th page? Or do we have to wait longer?

Riddick · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:29 am

^jbernier said that, sorry forgot to credit it.

WRP_Beater · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:35 am

Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?

I don't buy it. If you're really a watcher, tell us your result.

Riddick · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:43 am

Ythan wrote:
horrordude0215 wrote:Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?
Smiley in this posts reads to me as attempt to reduce the impact of the case indirectly.

^^ I'm a fan of this tell actually.

horrordude0215 · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:51 am

Sorry everyone, RL has been hectic for the past few days... I'll try to get something of value posted later today.

Riddick · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:53 am

jbernier93 wrote:
Ythan wrote:
jbernier93 wrote:
crypto wrote:
jbernier wrote:Why, out of curiosity?
Asshattery. He has yet to post content and when he chimed in we were well beyond the brush-off-criticism-with-a-joke stage.
his join date is within the past 30 days, isn't it reasonable to think he has no idea what the hell he should say?
When I first started playing mafia, my posts where highly similar to his, in that they had no content in them and consisted of dumb things.
Lynch out to straighten him out.
Or we can try actually looking for scum?

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF HE IS SCUM. Also your defense here is noted in my little red book.

richard's really fucking scummy btw.

farside22 · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:54 am

WRP_Beater wrote:
Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?
I don't buy it. If you're really a watcher, tell us your result.

*headsmack*
There was no night 0 so he will not have results today.

Riddick · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:59 am

WRP_Beater wrote:
NS wrote:@WRP_Beater: You might be new, but you came in at exactly the wrong moment. Can you give us some thoughts on the game? Or mafia in general? Or, really, anything?
Yes, I'm new
here
. You know, I've played in 6 mafias, 5 playing right now, 2 in MS. But I've never survived till the end . I know tactics, but if I'm scum I'm never able to resist pressuring. Believe me, if I was scum I'd do something wrong under pressure, but don't misunderstand: I'm not forcing you to pressure me . So, I won't claim right now, even if I see I look suspicious.

Daykill WRP_Beater

Riddick · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:07 am

Ythan wrote:
Lowell wrote:Christ 13 pages in a day and a half? I'll probably just end up supporting whatever wagon is leading. Give me some time.
They tell me you're just awful so I don't know how to read this. If they're not much exaggerating I could see myself supporting a policy lynch on you if we run out of suspects.

he's not awful, in fact he's perfectly capable of finding scum he just..isn't one for cases. also he's perfectly capable of lurking to victory as scum too.

WRP_Beater · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:15 am

Oh right there wasn't any night 0 O_O
Anyway Riddick, why did you daykill me without even asking once for a RC? Anyway, I am (or at least was) a VT. I win with the town. Also, I know now you can't cancel the daykill. Believe me, I'm a VT. Why would I lie when I am daykilled? You've just wasted a daykill.

Dr.Cyanide · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:15 am

farside22 wrote: *headsmack*
There was no night 0 so he will not have results today.

Yeah, I thought that question was weird. Why ask for something he's not going to have. To make him look scummier? He's done a good enough job of that already.

*sigh*

Riddick · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:17 am

Okay so I'm caught up:

beater/jbernier are both probably scum. Throw in SaintKerrigan too actually.

Ythan/Crypto/Lowell/DedicatedScribe/ are all town.

I'm unsure on Richard, I think maybe trying to test his role would be the best way, but even then it doesn't confirm alignment. I'd not mind giving him a night just to check though, it's not like much harm can come from it.

WRP_Beater · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:20 am

At least, I'm not doing like: "omg you'll be sorry when the kill post comes

"

Riddick · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:24 am

WRP_Beater wrote:Oh right there wasn't any night 0 O_O
Anyway Riddick, why did you daykill me without even asking once for a RC? Anyway, I am (or at least was) a VT. I win with the town. Also, I know now you can't cancel the daykill. Believe me, I'm a VT. Why would I lie when I am daykilled? You've just wasted a daykill.

I think I've caught scum here, actually.

'Why would I lie when I'm daykilled' why did you even say that?

Vote Wrp beater

I'll see can I save my daykill for another time.

WRP_Beater · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:26 am

Usually you can't cancel a daykill I think.

farside22 · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:31 am

Riddick: Can you expand on why you think WRP is scum. I get VI vibe every time I read one of his post

Riddick · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:40 am

Well yah, he's obviously not a completely newbie, as he's played mafia before. He also knows what a daykill and the general rules behind them are as evidenced just now.

I in general find it hard to read new players, but his 3rd post in iso is really, really bad. In fact I'm surprised there's not a larger bandwagon on him for that post, actually.

Hmm farside what do you think of Richard? I apologise if you've already said, but it'll save me looking back.

Riddick · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:42 am

Neto can you keep the people that were replaced in the OP, it makes it easier to see who replaced who (even if there names are crossed out), thanks

farside22 · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:46 am

Riddick wrote: Hmm farside what do you think of Richard? I apologise if you've already said, but it'll save me looking back.

I didn't like Richards opening question or his response to why he asked the question. I felt and still feel there is no town reason to know how a player will behave with a scum results.
He has mostly been defending himself more then scum hunting and his claim point although early part of me wonders if he will think he is safe because he claimed watcher and shouldn't have to scum hunt.

Netopalis · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:58 am

Riddick wrote:
Neto can you keep the people that were replaced in the OP, it makes it easier to see who replaced who (even if there names are crossed out), thanks

Done.

molestargazer · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:10 am

RayFrostWikiManager wrote:Who I'm looking at for scum:

vote Rikenslope

FoS molestargazer, Ace, horrordude0215

IGMEOY: Dr. Cyanide, SaintKerrigan, Musher33

Feel like expanding on any of these? At all?

molestargazer · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:19 am

Richard wrote:And if I'm scum, wouldn't I want to go for something more obvious like cop or doctor?
Without going too far into WIFOM

Too late.

I essentially agree with this post by NotRay.
Richard's really a sticking point. Whilst I still think some of his posts are scummy, it's a balance of risking a PR.

Ythan wrote:It's my understanding that it's not a particularly common normal role.

Once again, this comes down to subjectiveness / outguessing the mod. I wouldn't use that as a reason to vote for Richard.

WRP wrote:Anyway Riddick, why did you daykill me without even asking once for a RC? Anyway, I am (or at least was) a VT. I win with the town. Also, I know now you can't cancel the daykill. Believe me, I'm a VT. Why would I lie when I am daykilled? You've just wasted a daykill.

WRP wrote:Usually you can't cancel a daykill I think.

Interesting.
As we've clearly noticed throughout WRP's previous posts, he isn't one for beating about the bush, nor does he appear to be particularly experienced with how we do things here. Sounds to me like a genuine reaction. I agree with farside.

At this moment in time, nothing's jumping out as being a better wagon than Richard. So my vote stays there for now.

SaintKerrigan · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:35 am

I totally agree with Riddick re: WRP. I don't see a reason for a person experienced with Mafia to say "Why would I lie." From a newbie, I might see that kind of move as town, but WRP has demonstrated that he's not a newbie, that he does know how to play this game. This looks incredibly scummy.

Unvote: Rikenslope. Vote: WRP_Beater.

*awaits the Farside chew-out for not enough info behind the vote*