Pick Your Power II - Looks like the wine is gone (SCUM WIN)
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Jack wrote:Let's save the speculation on which numbers the mafia picked until later.It sucks as a game starter, because scum are just as good as town at strategic type arguments, but people get stuck on proving their theory and end up omgus'ing and voting based on bs. Then once that talk is exhausted, there isn't anything real to go on, and the game stymies.
Vote:Tony Montanaforpicking (1,1) in the draft = mafia
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uh, did you play the last game?Hoopla wrote:People who are rejecting the concept of number analysis are idiots. It is as much wifom as vote/wagon analysis and other mainstream scumhunting techniques.
We know scum were able to coordinate before/during the draft (despite a few people pleading ignorance to this, some genuine, some probably not). Lets think about it logically though. Some people are trying to sweep this under the wifom rug, and although there are options for scum to take, some are illogical and detrimental to scum's win condition.
Optimum scum strategy is to spread your numbers across 5 different X values, and try to pick up as many of the powerful roles as possible. This is probably the easiest way to cripple the town, by getting power on your side. However, scum may suspect town will figure out what their optimum strategy is, which lowers the effectiveness, and in turn scum may choose to throw the town off. However, there is only so far they can go, before giving too many roles to the town is a negative net result for them.
The good news for town is, we can already pick out unlikely combinations of scumpairs/teams based purely on numbers. At the very most scum would have doubled numbers once - any more than that leaves them too far down the draft. And frankly, if they have done that I'm thrilled because our roles will probably catch them before they can the reap the benefits of illogical number partners.
Right now, the best assumption is that scum have spread across at least four different X numbers. The beauty of this is, if we can keep groups of 3/4 players alive, we have a solid chunk ofprobablytown players. This forces scum to kill in these pools, the places where our good roles probably aren't.
Trust me, number analysis will win this game for us.hatersgonnahate.gif-
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Hoopla wrote:It was a combination of reasons. I will likely want to lynch you or Socrates or a double today, and will probably pick the scummiest one of that set of players (barring significant slips from low draft picks).You are currently the scummiest of that set, for reasons outside number analysis.Hoopla wrote:Trust me, number analysis will win this game for us.hatersgonnahate.gif-
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But Vi took Framer and he was like 2nd.Socrates wrote:Also, aside from a few roles such as Vig, most of the best roles for the scum (Rolecop, Roleblocker, Empowerer, and so on) are unlikely to be drafted by townies, regardless of where they are in the draft, so the scum team can afford to have at least a few of their members intentionally do poorly in the draft in order.
(Last game, Empowerer was drafted, like, 3rd from the bottom and Roleblocker never got drafted at all.)hatersgonnahate.gif-
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sighSocrates, Scum Cop, drinks the victory beer posthumously.
Jack, Scum Vigilante, cheers his fallen comrade with a mug of ale.
The1fifi, Scum Vengeful Lynchee, gets hammered on the cheap booze.
Hoopla, Scum Vanilla, does a fabulous keg stand.
Faraday, Scum Empowerer, is wearing a beer hat.hatersgonnahate.gif-
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I don't like the idea of not letting scum talk, because it's so critical to their character and nature, but letting scum plan out draft numbers is way strong, at least as good as daytalking, IMO.
Give out alignments, have people pick numbers, then allow 24-48 hours for scum to talk out role picks.hatersgonnahate.gif-
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the wifom in that is too strong, and it depends heavily on the playerlist. I am inclined to think the scum would be willing to spread their numbers (not double up) for shots at more power instead of blending in.
On the other hand I might be scum in a future PYP game with this draft so take what I say with a grain of salt.hatersgonnahate.gif-
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