Pick Your Power II - Looks like the wine is gone (SCUM WIN)


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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:40 pm

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12


Bouncy.Bouncy
- 2 - RedCoyote, Farside - (L-10)
Dramonic
- 2 - TonyMontana, Fate - (L-10)
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- 6 - Hoopla, Bouncy.Bouncy, Porkens, The1fifi, Dramonic, FeFiFoFum - (L-6)
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- 5 - Rayfrost, Ellibereth, Faraday, wolframnhart, DocPotter - (L-7)
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- 1 - Pomegranate - (L-11)
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- 2 - Socrates, Cobalt - (L-10)
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- 1 - StrangerCoug - (L-11)
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- 2 - curiouskarmadog, Jack - (L-10)

Players not voting: Devotress


Wow, I'm dazzled by how quickly Fate's wagon has evaporated. I still wouldn't be opposed to lynching him, but it makes me think scum were trying to protect Socrates via a Fate wagon;

Unvote, vote: Socrates


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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:21 pm

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Fast L-1, quick evaporation without claim. *sniff* Yeah, smells like a few scum on this wagon.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:31 pm

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Hoopla wrote:Wow, I'm dazzled by how quickly Fate's wagon has evaporated. I still wouldn't be opposed to lynching him, but it makes me think scum were trying to protect Socrates via a Fate wagon;

Unvote, vote: Socrates


I'm not forgetting you, Fate.
I'm not forgetting that you're #2 in the draft order, as there was barely anything scummy about you, Fate*

*Fixed.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:35 pm

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Fate wrote:
Hoopla wrote:Wow, I'm dazzled by how quickly Fate's wagon has evaporated. I still wouldn't be opposed to lynching him, but it makes me think scum were trying to protect Socrates via a Fate wagon;

Unvote, vote: Socrates


I'm not forgetting you, Fate.
I'm not forgetting that you're #2 in the draft order, as there was barely anything scummy about you, Fate*

*Fixed.
A watcher watches two players visit the house of a townie who is murdered - don't tell me you wouldn't use that information against a player, even if there was barely anything scummy about them.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:40 pm

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If being one of 2 people who visisted a dead person only increased your odds of being scum by 5.1 percent I wouldn't.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:45 pm

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:roll:

Is there any way you can see the number choices improving the odds of particular players being scum/town? Or is it all ~WIFOM~ to you?
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:46 pm

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Hoopla wrote:
Fate wrote:
Hoopla wrote:Wow, I'm dazzled by how quickly Fate's wagon has evaporated. I still wouldn't be opposed to lynching him, but it makes me think scum were trying to protect Socrates via a Fate wagon;

Unvote, vote: Socrates


I'm not forgetting you, Fate.
I'm not forgetting that you're #2 in the draft order, as there was barely anything scummy about you, Fate*

*Fixed.
A watcher watches two players visit the house of a townie who is murdered - don't tell me you wouldn't use that information against a player, even if there was barely anything scummy about them.
Damn right I would. Then they turn around and claim: Cop, Tracker, etc.

"Barely anything scummy about them" + "Claim that fits"="oh ok, I'll back off now."

See what I did there? I didn't 'follow the Watcher' and completely forget about my read on the person. Using your numbers against me is fine, I was just highlighting the fact that that is
all
your case consists of. Well, at the least, you never built on your earlier suspicions of me being 'scummy.' All you even did when I made posts at L-1 was talk about numbers, some more, and not about my defense posts.

I've already FOS'd you though, so no point beating a dead horse.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:50 pm

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Hoopla wrote::roll:

Is there any way you can see the number choices improving the odds of particular players being scum/town? Or is it all ~WIFOM~ to you?

It does increase there odds, I said so in my last post.
By 5.1 percent.


(as per jacks very helpfull equation post)
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:52 pm

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Fate, in this hypothetical, you know those two players have a 50% chance each of being mafia. Therefore they have equal chances of being scum variants of whatever their role is. The town will not win if we're too scared to lynch powerroles.

How do you think the town will win if scum have the vig and cop?
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:53 pm

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Devotress wrote:
Hoopla wrote::roll:

Is there any way you can see the number choices improving the odds of particular players being scum/town? Or is it all ~WIFOM~ to you?

It does increase there odds, I said so in my last post.
By 5.1 percent.


(as per jacks very helpfull equation post)
That act is becoming lame and unhelpful.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:55 pm

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It's not an act. I seriously don't think a +5.1% chance of being scum is a serious enough reason to place a lynch priority on the people who picked single numbers.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:35 am

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it's not 5,1%, it's 50%. The player isn't scum against the entire player pool, only against the other person that visited the corpse.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:41 am

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dramonic wrote:it's not 5,1%, it's 50%. The player isn't scum against the entire player pool, only against the other person that visited the corpse.
I wasn't responding to his hypothetical he brought up for fate, I was responding to the point at hand.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:42 am

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Well I was technically responding to his hypothetical, but I was saying the hypothetical isn't relavent to the current situation.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:57 am

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you lost me.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:59 am

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Fate wrote:I'm not forgetting that you're #2 in the draft order, as there was barely anything scummy about you, Fate*

*Fixed.
Hoopla wrote:A watcher watches two players visit the house of a townie who is murdered - don't tell me you wouldn't use that information against a player, even if there was barely anything scummy about them.
Devotress wrote:If being one of 2 people who visisted a dead person only increased your odds of being scum by 5.1 percent I wouldn't.


Sorry for reposting all this when it's on this page, I'm just showing Dramonic what I was talking about. Basically, she(sorry for calling you he earlier) states something that is not a 50% chance at all, and then brings up a 50 percent chance hypothetical as if that was simaler/relavent.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:41 am

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I was beginning to think no one had read that. Much like the case on wolfram.

unvote, vote:Hoopla


FeFi is scummy, but on the level of bouncy.bouncy or fate (after that one post, he looks better since).

Hoopla's number analysis is plain wrong, and the way she came into this day pushing it hard smells like the top 2 are town and she wants them to claim/get them lynched. I honestly gave no thought to that kind of analysis pregame, it's obvious she did. Who else would have thought about strategy like that except the mafia?
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:05 am

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@Jack : Hoopla's analyzing is not wrong. But it has a somewhat large marge of error, cause people can't be used as equations variables.

About everyone leaving the Fate wagon, shame on yourself scums, for quiting so eagerly. That was a obvious "When Fate flips town we are screwed, too many of us in this".

That, or scum made a good job at saving their (possibly, still analyzing socrates) best positioned player in the draft.


@Cobalt : Could you please post more. What the hell was that post voting on Pom?!
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:42 am

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Of course there were scum on the wagon, half the game was basically.

My last post whafts badly to many of you, but the gist seems to be "something's off." I haven't checked the names, nor will I, but anyone who hopped on, hopped off, then said my FOS was "off" is scum.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:15 am

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The1fifi wrote: @Cobalt : Could you please post more. What the hell was that post voting on Pom?!
Here is that post:
pom is playing like scum-pom
vote pom
It looks like I believe Pom is playing like scum, so I voted her.
Also, I have twice as many posts as you.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:17 am

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Lol, as Ray once said, Cobalt is trollish
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:19 am

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lol, you are scummish
unvote vote fifi
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:53 am

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@Cobalt : Ahahaha, an amazingly super OMGUS!
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:56 am

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More like you tried to make an empty attack on me and got called out for being scum.
fifi, who is scum? Top three.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:46 am

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RayFrost wrote:FeFi is scum, Fo Fum (Fo Sho is another way to say Fo Fum, or is it the other way around?)

vote: FeFiFoFum


3 posts, 10 pages, 0 content, 100 basis points of follow the town.
interesting...how is his posts compared to mine?

was going to following my farside to bouncy's vote...but I like my vote exactly where it is...why? a vibe....is that scummy? sure, but it is still day one.

where is my bandwagon? again, i have not put forth much content at all, but people seems to be ignoring that....guess you have to be higher on the draft list before the powers that be are interested in wagoning you.

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