Newbie 888 - Game Over!

[almightybob]

We can just tell him we're in the middle of a massclaim, and to claim before he reads.

[boberz]

I hope they comply. You are right to say it is right to do it now.

The problem is we cant really discuss much in the fear it gives scum leverage in the mean time. We have to see the claim before we can really chat about the effects of it.

[almightybob]

True.

Mod: Update on the LS situation? Any reply to your prod on the 24th?

[pablito]

Seeking replacement.

[Kyiv]

It's like waiting at the DMV office for an hour only to be told you were in the wrong line. For the sake of the game, I think we need to move on?

[boberz]

I kind of want to move on, but what can we do. LS was not really lurking, so we can only assume he left because he was busy. Not scummy. I have something to say about the claim but I would rather leave it till after LS has claimed.

[pablito]

BrokenBlueprints replaces lastsurvivor

[BrokenBlueprints]

Why hello there fellas

Newb to MafiaScum, have played forum mafia in the past though.

Thanks for letting me replace into the game pablito.

Reading through the thread now, will post with any of my thoughts.

[BrokenBlueprints]

Massclaim is def correct thing to do, no PRs are revealed in the scenario with 7 townies and if we have a cop/doctor then it is an autowin for us.

I'm slightly confused about why the order of claims matters at all? If cop/doc are alive we win no matter what, if not then claiming vanilla innocent doesn't matter what order it happens in? Not claiming until I get a clarification on this, but yeah I just thought having an order in which we claim was kind of unnecessary.

Starting from beginning of thread and reading through in order now; is there any particular quotes or votes people suggest I take into consideration?

Cheers

[BrokenBlueprints]

Great, the replacement will come in and want to read before a claim. It will take him ages to read the game once he has he will say he is a VT and we were back where we strated.

Oh dear, I'm so predictable D:

This seems to be a triple post, am I going to be hated?

[pablito]

In a deadline situation, I don't think anyone's going to mind honestly about multiple posts.

[Kyiv]

Hi Blueprints! Thanks for replacing.

I'm slightly confused about why the order of claims matters at all? If cop/doc are alive we win no matter what, if not then claiming vanilla innocent doesn't matter what order it happens in? Not claiming until I get a clarification on this, but yeah I just thought having an order in which we claim was kind of unnecessary.

Is this matter preventing you from claiming? Do you feel that claiming without this information could be a mistake? I think not; I think you're stalling.

[BrokenBlueprints]

Is this matter preventing you from claiming? Do you feel that claiming without this information could be a mistake? I think not; I think you're stalling.

lol, when I read through last page I missed Charlie's claim and as such thought that I wasn't supposed to claim yet according to whatever the point of the list was.

Stalling wouldn't have helped mafia in any way, the only possible claim was vanilla townie. Faking as a cop or doc would have been suicide.

I am currently reading through all of PatriotDynasty's posts, to see how he talked (or didn't talk) to any of the players still alive. Again, any significant actions from any player that you recommended I look at would be appreciated; 22 pages of long winded posts isn't easy going.

[almightybob]

Hi Broken, thanks for replacing.

The reason for randomly selecting the claim order is to prevent the scum waiting to see what everyone else claims before making their own claim. Of course, there's still a chance that the scum would be randomly selected to be last, but this way they have no choice in the matter.
In this particular situation it's rather arbitrary, because there's only one (relatively) safe claim for scum, but I thought I'd do it anyway.

Now claim please (even though from your post it's obvious that even if you are scum you know what to claim), so we can move on.

[pablito]

Vote Count

Charlie (1): boberz

Not Voting: Lastsurvivor, almightybob, Charlie, Kyiv

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch!

Deadline March 5th 9 am EST

[Charlie]

Hi BrokenBlueprints. Take your time to read up, but remember that you have less than 1 week to do so before the deadline hits.

[BrokenBlueprints]

I'm a townie

so we can move on

To anything in particular? Or is it simply analysis and scumhunting?

My current stance is that bob is village; I noticed that as PD was being lynched, he tried to divert attention to bob instead. His reaction to PD's wifom at the end of D1 seemed natural too.

I am less sure about Kyiv; PD voted him at the beginning of D1 and continued to vote him throughout the day, before the obvious wifom. I don't think that after he realized he was going to have to let his partner survive two lynches, he would want to put any attention on his partner at all.

PD hardly had any contact with either MagicTrainer or Flare.

This is the craziest claim I've ever seen. almightybob's last post makes perfect sense. You are completely useless to us if you are telling the truth. Either way lynching you won't be a bad thing

Vote:PatriotsDynasty09

This seemed like a really forced statement, there were no original points, flare was merely parroting what previous people had said. It was obvious by that point that PD was going to be lynched and I think it was bussing.

Oh jeez, I'm already growing parnoid, I feel like voting Lastsurvivor because he's talking the most but then again a mafia wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves... right?

That was an on-the-fence, filler comment. I think the purpose behind it was to make it look like he was scumhunting, while in fact laying down no serious fos'.

Charlie my strongest fos at the moment.

I am still evaluating RandomMaster at the moment, but i feel if I leave this tab open any longer without posting, I'll accidentally close it and lose all of the above text >.<

[BrokenBlueprints]

*Charlie is my strongest fos at the moment.

Still getting used to no editing - I should really preview my posts before pressing submit

[almightybob]

so we can move on

To anything in particular? Or is it simply analysis and scumhunting?

Yep, analysis and scumhunting.

Oh well, massclaim didn't work out. Worth a shot anyway.

As I've previously said, I have a pretty Town read on both boberz and LS/Broken, so that brings me to either Kyiv or Charlie. I feel that of the two, Charlie has played more Townie, but his predecessors have been scummier than Kyiv has, as Broken has just pointed out, along with others. I'm fairly happy with him as today's choice.

Vote: Charlie

- Note that this is L-1.

[BrokenBlueprints]

Would I be some sort of hero if I jumped in with a radical quickhammer on Charlie, who flipped maf?

*manic smile*

[almightybob]

If he flipped Mafia, you'd be reckless Town who hammered someone the day they replaced into the game, when there was over a week left, with analysis that they promised (on RandomMaster) still unfinished.

If he flipped Town, you'd be either foolish scum or game-losing Town, because it would be so suspicious that you would probably be lynched in LyLo.

[BrokenBlueprints]

Is putting Charlie at L-1 an attempt to put pressure on any of his future responses, to see how others will react to this, or because you are happy with him being today's lynch?

Still reading RM posts

[almightybob]

A little of all of them. Mainly the last one though.

[boberz]

Cheers for the quick catch up there BB, and I wasnt meaning to be rude, I was just a tad fed up.

Almightybob's analysis between Kyiv and Charlie more or less matches the arguments I ahve also been making over the last few pages. It makes sense to me.

Out of interest BB, how did you read almightybob?

The way you organised and explained that claim seemed townie to me though almighty bob. That said I still dont get that bussing post.

[boberz]

Any scum meta's for me please BB, particularly ones you have replaced in.