Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Ythan]

What's the deal with Ray and new Ray?

[Dr.Cyanide]

Ray raplaced out, Ray replaced in. I believe their story, as weird as it is.
On to content:

NS: Liars, lynch them all.
Crypto: No.
NS: Why not?
Crypto: Because townies often lie while pulling gambits. In general, yes, lynching liars is a good idea, but it's not even close to a hard-and-fast rule.
Ythan: Are you going to refer back to this when you get caught out in a lie?
Crypto: No. Would you like me to compile every lie and gambit executed by a townie on this site to demonstrate the fact?

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Crypto: That said, I've drawn up three (tentative) town reads—I'll share them if you want; I love sharing!—
Crypto: My special seal of approval doesn't take any pressure off.

What?

[* * *]

Crypto: Lastly, the mafia normally isn't so blind as not to know who is obvious town and who isn't.

Crypto: Ythan, you're suspicious of horror. Wagon on him with me.

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Crypto: What the hell do you want me to go into detail about? How exactly should I go into detail about a gut scum read? I hate to rain on your parade, but I'm not going to have a case compiled for you on page seven.

Why not?

[* * *]

I'll finish this later, Bones is on.

[Dr.Cyanide]

*replaced.

[crypto]

Is pointing out what's scummy about any of that too much for you?

I've elected not to list my town reads because none of them are even close to a lynch. If there's a super-awesome reason I am missing, pleeeaase enlighten me.

[Ythan]

You could answer the two that were actually questions and not

just

copies.

[SaintKerrigan]

Happy birthday, Ythan!

[Lowell]

may I inquire where your username came from?

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=RayFrost

I fill out all the games and the win-loss record table, and some of the quotes.

What do I have to do to get a wiki?

BTW, complete 180 on nobody special. His participation has been good and non-retarded recently. Also, someone explain the horror case to me. I feel like I should want to vote him but I'm having trouble seeing what others see.

Alternatively, if anyone wants to join me on the musher wagon, there's plenty of room. To me he's the perfect D1 pressure case. He's relatively inactive, and when he is active he's been scummy. Don't be fooled by the fact that others post MORE and therefore have MORE scummy posts. Scum hide like whoa in big games like this, so you've got to see past the super-actives swining their dicks around.

[Netopalis]

SeptL is being replaced.

[Ythan]

Thanks SK! Lowell, you can make your own page.

[DedicatedScribe]

Hello, all.

Faulty wifi has rendered me inactive, but I`m back now. Lemme re-read the thread and come back to you.

[Netopalis]

Official Unnecessary Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 11

DedicatedScribe

- 2 - Cirno, Ythan - (L-9)

horrordude0215

- 2 - Crypto, pman5595 - (L-9)

Musher333

- 1 - Lowell - (L-10)

RichardGHP

- 2 - MoleStargazer, Rikenslope - (L-9)

Rikenslope

- 2 - SaintKerrigan, RichardGHP - (L-9)

SaintKerrigan

- 1 - Farside22 - (L-10)

WRP_Beater

- 3 - DedicatedScribe, JBernier93, Nobody Special - (L-8)

Players not voting: ace5993, Dr. Cyanide, horrordude0215, Musher333, RayFrost, SeptL, WRP_Beater

Also, a happy birthday to Ythan! He's been given a complimentary vote against him! (Kidding)

[Ythan]

Thanks Neto. What I'd really like for my birthday is at least one post from each player.

[Nobody Special]

Happy Birthday, Ythan. Here, have a post!

[Ythan]

It's not as if I want to spam but it would certainly be rude not to post. Thanks, NS!

[farside22]

I feel like I need to reread things right now in this game. I will have a better post on Monday as weekends are a bit chaotic for me.

[RayFrostWikiManager]

Hiiii Ythan. Happy Birthday!

@Lowell, regarding the Wiki: Go the mafiawiki, and go to your person wiki page, and hit the edit button. Unless you meant you wanted me personally to update your wiki, in which case, you just have to ask.

But, anywaaaaays.

I think Richard has a fairly high chance of lying about the claim, whether he's just a townsperson lying about his role, or scum. It's probably best to give him enough pressure to keep him talking to be more sure of this, but for the most part, seek out other lynches. I'm not really used to how large games work, so.

I've got a few solid townspeople reads, which are nice, but not as helpful as scum reads.

Who I'm looking at for scum:

vote Rikenslope

FoS molestargazer, Ace, horrordude0215

IGMEOY: Dr. Cyanide, SaintKerrigan, Musher33

I def. feel like Cirno's playstyle is getting in the way of being able to read her. I'd definitely like to hear more from her as the day goes on. And I'm looking forward to that septL replacement.

That will be all for now.

[Ythan]

Thanks Not Ray.

Lowell, you might also want to have your user:name page redirect to your name page, looks neater imo.

[RichardGHP]

I think Richard has a fairly high chance of lying about the claim, whether he's just a townsperson lying about his role, or scum. It's probably best to give him enough pressure to keep him talking to be more sure of this, but for the most part, seek out other lynches. I'm not really used to how large games work, so.

Or maybe I'm town telling the truth about my role.

If I was Vanilla Townie/any other town role, why the hell would I fakeclaim a power role? And if I'm scum, wouldn't I want to go for something more obvious like cop or doctor? Without going too far into WIFOM, that argument is just ridiculous. There's no other way to put it, you can't make euphemisms for it, the argument just makes no sense IMO.

Also, sorry, but I don't do pressure votes, nor do I respond to them. If I haven't said much up until now a few votes, maybe even a large wagon, isn't going to make me contribute any more than I am at the moment.

[Ythan]

And if I'm scum, wouldn't I want to go for something more obvious like cop or doctor? Without going too far into WIFOM, that argument is just ridiculous.

That is perfectly far into WIFOM.

[RayFrostWikiManager]

Or maybe I'm town telling the truth about my role.

Well, I doubt this for several reasons. Let's analyze your claim:

Background Info: You claimed at like L-5; the only person having requested you claim was Ythan a couple votes earlier, to whom you said the claim was too early. Then, you said you'd claim on request.

Claim time.

So why in the world would you choose to claim right now? In general, power roles have a tendency to want to keep their role secret, so that the scum cannot nightkill them. Being eager to claim so early is interesting, like you want to stop your wagon before it gets any bigger.

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Watcher

Not a bad claim. It's a normal role. However, it's a bit hard to prove, since someone lying could guess that someone hadn't been targetted or something.

Everybody unvote now. kthxbai.

This just reeks of scumminess.

If I was Vanilla Townie/any other town role, why the hell would I fakeclaim a power role?

I dunno. Regardless of how much sense it makes, people do it.

And if I'm scum, wouldn't I want to go for something more obvious like cop or doctor?

But then you'd be counterclaimed.

Without going too far into WIFOM, that argument is just ridiculous. There's no other way to put it, you can't make euphemisms for it, the argument just makes no sense IMO.

Except it isn't, my friend.

Also, sorry, but I don't do pressure votes, nor do I respond to them. If I haven't said much up until now a few votes, maybe even a large wagon, isn't going to make me contribute any more than I am at the moment.

Actions speak louder than words, and your actions certainly state this isn't the case.

[pman5595]

And if I'm scum, wouldn't I want to go for something more obvious like cop or doctor? Without going too far into WIFOM, that argument is just ridiculous.

That is perfectly far into WIFOM.

^

I'm torn between Horror and Richard. I really don't want to let horror just be dismissed as a newbie, so I guess my vote will stay on him for now.

[Ythan]

Flimsiest of excuses obtained!

unvote vote RichardGHP

[RichardGHP]

Flimsiest of excuses obtained!

unvote vote RichardGHP

^ FAIL

[Ythan]

If you don't have anything else to contribute don't even bother posting.

[RichardGHP]

Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?