Open 209: The Invasion of Liten (Game Over)

[Alduskkel]

Mod: Spoiler Haylen's flame image on the previous page. If anyone ever rereads that page it'll be a pain in the ass.

Spoilering doesn't work in this case (as all it does is blacken out text). Sorry.

Max:

The following are scum:
Crypto
with
SFG
and
Steam-Powered Shovel
with
Nicodemus

Why do you suspect these people?

Unvote, Vote: Sniper

. His posts are even less content-filled than Haylen's.

[Alduskkel]

im not going to vote Max because it could be misconstrued as OMGUS

vote:SPS

Eh? If you suspect Max, vote for him! Are you so worried about looking scummy that you'll refuse to vote for one of your suspects?

FoS: SFG

.

[SaintKerrigan]

Everyone was shocked by Nik's announcement. "Are- are you sure?" Haylen asked, her voice quavering.

Nik nodded. "As far as we know, there are no survivors.

"Dear lord," murmured Haylen. "Davies...Jackson...Mossman..."

Sarah went over and put a comforting arm around Haylen as she broke into tears.

God help us all,

she thought.

The Zergling Rush Vote Count

(1) Slaxx: Nicodemus
(1) Haylen: Slaxx

(2) Nicodemus: Nikanor, Steam-Powered Shovel

(2) Pulindar: Sanhora, Sniper
(1) Nikanor: Haylen
(2) Sniper: Pulindar, Alduskkel
(1) Steam-Powered Shovel: SFG

Not Voting: Max, Horrordude0215, Crypto

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: March 11th, 2010 at 8:00 p.m. CST

[SFG]

im not going to vote Max because it could be misconstrued as OMGUS

vote:SPS

Eh? If you suspect Max, vote for him! Are you so worried about looking scummy that you'll refuse to vote for one of your suspects?

FoS: SFG

.

I've been misconstrued as scummy in every single game thus far because people are stupid and think that things I do out of interest for the town are actually scummy.

Max is also under a bit of pressure already and I'd like to place some pressure on lesser suspects.

[Slaxx]

@SFG: So we should discount your suspicion just because of that?

[Alduskkel]

Mod: Spoiler Haylen's flame image on the previous page. If anyone ever rereads that page it'll be a pain in the ass.

Spoilering doesn't work in this case (as all it does is blacken out text). Sorry.

Would you mind replacing it with a link to the image, then?

Also, what Slaxx said.

[Nikanor]

I'm sorry to have gone down on your read of me, but I need to pursue this for a bit. I'm not pushing for anyone else to join me yet, nor am I pushing for a lynch, yet, but I do need to leave my vote on sniper and see how it plays out for a bit. I hope you don't mine too much that I'm not explaining it now, it'd hurt the reason. Just like if I had explained my reason for voting San it would have hurt the evidence.

I see. Have fun!

[joke="Having fun with Nika"]
Nika I think that this post points out that you are in a powerful position. This flavor shows, that as Chief of Security you obviously have access to many varieties and classes of weapons. Some of those same weapons were used by the rebels. Are you affiliated with the Rebels Nika? I ask you this with trepidation, but it is a question that must be posed.[/joke]

I

might

have left the weapon's locker open for a couple hours in exchange for a couple hundred space-dollars (what's our currency called, anyway?). If it just so happens that some weapons were stolen by the rebels, it was totally not my fault at all.

@All, what do you think of Sniper's refusal to out his meta?

It's up to him whether to out his meta. Not giving it to you is more anti-town than scummy. If it turns out that his scum meta fits his play in this game, though, then he's probably scum.
Right now I think Sniper is just a troll out to kill us all, though. (And not the good-hearted Zorblag kind, either). That's why I asked if he was an alt.

She's just being BA. Don't worry about it.

Bad-ass, or Bachelor of Arts degree? I think I know which one you mean, but I want to make sure. Or do you mean something different entirely...?

Oh btw Sniper, you might want to read the global announcement, "Moratorium on Trolling" by mith. Just sayin'

Hey, someone agrees with me!

im not going to vote Max because it could be misconstrued as OMGUS

xD Townies shouldn't care about this.

Alduskkel, are you just going to hunt lurkers all game?

Why does Pulindar have two votes? Sanhora?

[Slaxx]

My mind tells me go to sleep but my gut tells me

vote SFG

for faulty defense, some odd analyses of players, possibly instigating, and placing votes on non suspects. Why not pressure suspicious people? This makes no sense to me.

[Slaxx]

unvote

vote SFg

[SFG]

SFG's Rules of Being a Townie:

1. Find scum. This is your first and foremost priority

2. Do not let yourself be lynched* You will be wasting precious town resources.

*unless it is strategically necessary to out the scum


Now, my D1 play being weak as I've already stated, because apparently the type of scumhunting I do (taking critical notes of all players and analyzing them individually) looks scummy to everyone else, I've placed Rule 2 as a priority until such a time as my scumhunting has an outlet to pick up.

Also @crypto, I didn't "place a vote on nonsuspects," I placed a vote on my #2 scummiest. In case you y'know, actually bothered to read my scum list. In fact, if you read my scum list, you will also see that my "throwing mud at everyone" actually yielded 4 potential scum and 3 potential town, and a bunch of null reads. 'cus 4 is totally everyone.

Seems like another game where every action I can possibly take is scummy, even scum hunting....

[SFG]

Also for the record, I still don't understand Max's case against me, which factors into why I'm hesitant to vote him. There are more effective ways of going about things, and this way two of my top two suspects both get pressured.

[SFG]

btw if you want to see rule #2 in action, look at Day 3 of the first game on my wiki. If you want to see the exception to rule #2, look at Day 3 of the second game on my wiki.

[Sniper]

I am a townie ok that's all you need to know and now you know it.

I have played Mafia before, but different so al you need to know is that I have played before.

And I'm not a troll. What's a Troll?

What's meta?

[crypto]

Is anyone here any good with Paint (or a similar program)? Haaalp.

Seriously. Help.

[Pulindar]

Oh definitely. But I would also answer no to the question "Do his actions make it more likely that he's scum?".

I see your point there SPS, but I sort of disagree. His actions don't seem scummier only because he seems like an incompetent. How long can we let someone go for committing scummy actions. There must be a point where he learns that those actions are scummy.

I

might

have left the weapon's locker open for a couple hours in exchange for a couple hundred space-dollars (what's our currency called, anyway?). If it just so happens that some weapons were stolen by the rebels, it was totally not my fault at all.

HA I knew it. I'd vote you, but my current vote is important to me don't worry, once I get what I need from it I will press this rebel case

Why does Pulindar have two votes? Sanhora?

She said I seemed scummy for a couple things.
That I posted my opinion after Crypto prompted me to.
That I voted her.
That's all I saw, Here's a link I'd bet that there's a side reason as well, but I don't know what it is. Maybe she doesn't like that I'm posting alot. Or wants to check and make sure I'm not scum??

I am a townie ok that's all you need to know and now you know it.

I keep my vote where it is.


I don't find SFG suspicious, but ... I'm going to wait for a good case to be presented. or at least more discussion.

Is anyone here any good with Paint (or a similar program)? Haaalp.

I

May

be able to help, but I'm not that confident.

[Alduskkel]

She's just being BA. Don't worry about it.

Bad-ass, or Bachelor of Arts degree? I think I know which one you mean, but I want to make sure. Or do you mean something different entirely...?

crypto clearly means Haylen's the Bird of Arkham, the oft overlooked brother of Batman!

Alduskkel, are you just going to hunt lurkers all game?

Is that all I'm going to do? Probably not. Hunting lurkers is a pretty good idea though IMO.

SFG: Your rule 2 should not get in the way of your scumhunting!

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

Now, my D1 play being weak as I've already stated, because apparently the type of scumhunting I do (taking critical notes of all players and analyzing them individually) looks scummy to everyone else, I've placed Rule 2 as a priority until such a time as my scumhunting has an outlet to pick up.

If your overriding concern is not get lynched, how are we to determine your alignment? As townie, I always try to play as naturally as I can, guilelessly.

Deciding not to vote for Max because of how it looks, I would definitely have considered suspicious if not for this explanation and the fact that it is consistent with how you've played in the past (I read your day 3 posts in that newbie). And I'm not quite sure what to think of it now.

I have played Mafia before, but different so al you need to know is that I have played before.

If you could link us to a previous game you've played, we'll be in a better position to judge your actions in this game.

[SaintKerrigan]

Liten's local currency is called pengrah.

[Max]

Max is also under a bit of pressure already and I'd like to place some pressure on lesser suspects.

Hi, this is pressure. Max has not met me yet.

Where is this pressure you so speak of?

Also,

Alduskkel's repeated post about why people are scum

I think it's fairly obvious, the first two players are scum together, through post 90.

The second through posts 100 and 101.

Sniper is evidently an alt. So, you need to let him be an alt.

Also. Whoever said that this playstyle isn't good is lying. It sure is more fun than most. It has a twinge of some aggresive players and a sprinkling of some fun players.

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

Do you pronounce that pen-grah or peng-rah?

[SaintKerrigan]

Steam-Powered Shovel: Peng-rah.

Max: Don't use dark red please, that is the mod's color. Consider this a warning.

Also, guys, I'm going to be gone for most of the day. Just letting you know.

[Max]

Eh... you banned dark red not ooc tags.

Oops...my mistake. Consider the warning rescinded, then.

[Haylen]

woot! PBPA!

[SFG]

very short temp. post before church.

If your overriding concern is not get lynched, how are we to determine your alignment? As townie, I always try to play as naturally as I can, guilelessly.

I never said that it was overriding. I don't want to be lynched, no, but I want to start prioritizing 1 as soon as I have something more than a few straws here and there to build a case from. Right now, the one time I went out collecting straws and seeing what I could do, like three people jumped on me for "flinging mud."
Certainly I don't want to be lynched before the game gets into what I call the "middle game," which is when my scumhunting starts to become much more powerful than it does in the "early game."

I stated that in one of my first posts on this thread.


I don't like Sniper or Nico's playstyle atm, but I want it to pan out a bit more so maybe I can see if 1. one of them flakes out or 2. their goals become more clear.

[Haylen]

Nico is lurker.

And yes, I am well Bad Ass, innit.