It doesn't help that he was on the crappy second page mykonian wagon.
Bio, elaborate please? I don't see why the wagon was crappy.
Besides, it was simply a more 'offensive' way of asking him why he clears him so easily. More of a post to build up to the question, which was (imo) legit.
Now, to make a
monster
post to reply to Myko.
What information do you have as town to make you choose for a theory that you admit to be unlikely (though not impossible)?
Seriously, you make no sense. I have a gut town read on you, but you act as if you have more information then you can have. And then you tunnel on it, denying all information that contradicts your current read. Please tell, why are you a towny?
Accusation: You tunnel on information that you can't possibly have.
Explanation: This is one I hear more often, even though I thought I pretty much removed it from my game.
Often
when I play games, I hear questions similar to this one. I play in such way that people think that I have more information than possible.
On the tunneling
, that is an old one. Often I present a possibility and, well, tunnel on it, if you will.
The first one
you can ask Mindgamer about, when we play games on SmashNL (a dutch site) I often get questions about information. The second one is actually pretty old and most of the people from that forum don't come over here.
Bolded: WOW. What a way to backtrack. Since when do you not have responsibility for what you post?
No disco, if it is too unlikely to be true (and see my post, it is), then you don't post it, because it adds nothing. This way you just add more suspicion around me, looker, or whoever while it shouldn't be there.
This is one reason why I very much dislike any "scumbuddy" argument made before we lynched scum. There is often little basis (since you always have a few steps that are unlikely), but they do add suspicion from the group to that player. It doesn't help to hunt scum.
Accusation: You aren't taking responsibility for your posts.
Explanation: Well, I don't think we have the same definition of responsibility here. I was presenting the option, then pretty much leaving it as it's still
just
an option. I am willing to take responsibility for my posts, but this wasn't about taking responsibility for me.
Accusation: You post theories to add suspicion about people.
Explanation: I think you misunderstood my intention. It's only a theory, my intention was to bring more options to light rather than adding suspicion per se.
this is what I mean. You are just trying to scare people.
why is this notable?
If one is scum, what does that make the other?
if one is town, what does that make the other?
This is no scumhunting, Disco. This is manipulating. Now, show me some scumhunting.
Accusation: You're scaring people.
Explanation: I'm merely outing something I noticed. Scaring people? That was not my intention. There was a little flavor of pressure meant to go with the statement though.
Accusation: You are manipulating and psuedo-scumhunting.
Explanation: Well, this is kind of out of context. You're merely quoting 1 sentence of my whole post, the rest of the post was fine (iirc). I myself don't see how it was manipulating also, I was merely stating something I noticed.
Disco, first, mindgamer is right. Second, if you are town, this is wrong. This is why scum wins so much, by hiding. Town wants the whole game to be active, talking, not hiding. You prefer hiding, I see.
Accusation: What you say is wrong, you are hiding.
Explanation: I'm not hiding, I'm (WAS) merely not being seen/discussed at the point. I think that if you are being noticed, you have done something anti-town.
THE IMPORTANT THING HERE
is that when I say 'noticed' I mean being discussed and stuff. Mindgamer took the liberty to use the one of the other ways of using 'noticed' by stating that Town wants their post being read. I think it's normal for everyone to read all posts, so I don't really agree on that being a point. I do agree that I was vague with the usage of 'noticed', and while it might not be the best of defense, English is not my native tongue, and every so often it is harder for me to make my point clear.
Bolded, you take no responsibility.
Further, you choose to lay only that possibility on the table (I am sure this is Dutch, not English), while waiting for others to add the other possibilities
(yes that's Dutch, example of the point made above)
Accusation: You take no responsibility
Explanation: Already elaborated.
Accusation: You're waiting for others to say stuff so you can agree with it.
Explanation: Not my intention. I was adding the option myself, which I immediatly agreed with.
Why are you afraid to tell what you think here? Waiting for what the rest thinks, so you can agree? Obv hiding scum here.
Post edited and more fencesitting bolded. this is becoming a trend.
Accusation: Waiting for others to add things, so you can agree with it.
Explanation: Honestly there is no defending from this. I was too unsure and wanted to compare the good to the bad and draw a conclusion from it. I didn't want to draw quick conclusions. It's better to prevent than to heal, don't you agree?
Disco, why are you defending StK. Is this because you know him to be town? Or is he your scumbuddy?
Accusation: You're defending StK because you know him to be town or because he's your scumbuddy
Explanation: I was thinking that the discussion was useless, like most people. I wanted to end it so we can move on and use the attention for more important things.
Disco, why are you only suspecting the players that are most in the attention? (looker, me)
Don't they get most attention because they take risks, because they have made 70 of the 178 in this thread, brought by far the most information into this thread?
Are you too stupid to understand, or are you just trying to get a lynch that suits you?
Accusation: Going with easy lynches.
Explanation: Well, as you probably know, I already suspected you since the start (evident by my vote on Myko and overall comments). It wasn't jumping on a lynch as soon as it became an easy one, I was with the decision since you guys entered the game.
And by pure chance, these two are the largest bandwagons, and with the most scumhunting players. You make a very convincing point, Disco.
Accusation: Going with easy lynches.
Explanation: See above.
uhm, disco, when will you start giving information, in stead of continiously waiting for other people to do something?
Accusation: I don't really know. I think it is that I'm not productive?
Explanation: In my eyes I've been pretty productive so far.
LOL. Seriously, Disco, this is too funny. And you don't even get the joke.
But seriously, just generally pointing at the lurkers when you are under pressure? You are seriously scum looking for a way out.
Accusation: Redirecting attention
Explanation: I was merely referencing lurkers to reinforce my point.
Q: Why is not voting a scumtell?
A: because scum will have to "lie" when voting, has to fake scumhunting. Which is the same reasoning that also shows that voting without a reason is a scumtell.
Q: What is Disco doing here?
A: avoiding any risks, and is not scumhunting
Accusation: You are not voting because that would mean... I don't really understand this one.
Myko, please elaborate.
Tell me concretely why not voting is bad, please.
Accusation: Avoiding risks, not scumhunting
Explanation: Avoiding risks? That is a matter of perception. Not scumhunting... Well, I have not been as active with my scumhunting as the others and you can even say I have been tunneling (on light), but I have been, but with players around here asking all my questions it's hard.
lol @ trying to make this rolefishing. you clearly see what I mean, and you are purely twisting my words here. Thank you for your scumclaim, scum.
Why have we never heard anything about Mindgamer from you? Is this pure OMGUS? Further, this shit is the game.
Accusation: Twisting words
Explanation: I was questioning one of your questions.
Accusation: You haven't commented on Mindgamer
Explanation: At the time I didn't really have anything to add on him.
Context = win.
it is a rhetorical question... And you know. Because you have read the post, seeing that first I argue why a tell works, then I argue that Disco acts in this way, with the conclusion that Disco is scum.
Accusation: Pulling things out of context
Explanation: Can't really defend from this one, you are right, I did bring it out of context.
I hope that clears the suspicions. I personally think that the things I said were interpeted in a wrong way. I'll try to be more clear from now on.
