Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[jbernier93]

voet; jbenier

cos ur not inno

yay, an OMGUS vote!
also IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO SPELL MY USERNAME?

[WRP_Beater]

If someone didn't understand my post, I'll explain it. Just ask. I was saying that even if I'm not a newbie at all, I always fall under pressure.

[Ythan]

Yes it is.

Explain to me on what fucking planet is misdefining a word a scumtell.

Misdefining the word does not in any way excuse the argument you were attempting to make. If misunderstanding the definition of a word is enough to send you off on that tangent then you were just trying to use wikitells instead of building a case which is scummy.

[SaintKerrigan]

Richard's outdoing himself in the scum department.

Unvote: WRP_Beater. Vote: RichardGHP.

[farside22]

Richard's outdoing himself in the scum department.

Unvote: WRP_Beater. Vote: RichardGHP.

Alright this is the second time you flipped your vote with lack of reasoning and following.

unvote:
vote: SK

I saw you do this with WRP and now richard. It reminds me of opportunistic scum tactics I have seen too often. Jumping from one BW to the other.

[SaintKerrigan]

Richard's outdoing himself in the scum department.

Unvote: WRP_Beater. Vote: RichardGHP.

Alright this is the second time you flipped your vote with lack of reasoning and following.

unvote:
vote: SK

I saw you do this with WRP and now richard. It reminds me of opportunistic scum tactics I have seen too often. Jumping from one BW to the other.

I'm doing more following than leading right now because my head's not completely in this game.

[Ythan]

It looks like we finally have a post from each player. Iso time.

[crypto]

also IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO SPELL MY USERNAME?

Would you like my serious answer or my droll answer?

FOS: SaintKerrigan.

I wish you would stop making all my votes feel dirty with your mind-numbing bandwagoning.

[jbernier93]

also IS IT REALLY THAT HARD TO SPELL MY USERNAME?

Would you like my serious answer or my droll answer?

Both please, except in the opposite order.

[crypto]

Yes. No.

[Ythan]

Ace5995 has confirmed.

5993 actually, but good try :p Just an "I am here" post, but I will read-through and post stuff later today.

Lied.

Unvote. Vote: Cirno.

Can you explain the context of this joke vote?

trying not to say much incase he gives away information he doesn't want to

How would this technique benefit scum?

How would it not?

FOS: Ythan . . .

What was this about?

@Everyone: If you are a cop with a guilty on Day 1, do you out yourself and risk getting NK'd or do you wait until you have minimum risk of being killed?

Not a very good question. No, I'd rather have a higher chance of being NKed.

Make this make sense.

why the wait? Haven't enough people posted? If everyone posts, will it increase the likelihood that you'll pick scum to target?

Or are you looking for the most viable target for a mislynch?

This wasn't explained satisfactorily.

Hmmm...I still want to say I see Richard as (bad) town. None of his mistakes seem major,

but subsequent.

What does this mean?

Vote: Crypto.

Reason: General scummy state of play.

Explain yourself.

vote: richard

What reasoning that you had for this holds up now?

Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?

Smiley in this posts reads to me as attempt to reduce the impact of the case indirectly.

Or maybe I just like smileys!

Hanging onto this.

Sorta... I would've probably done the same thing if I were in your shoes, now that I know what your talking about lol

Despite the fact that you didn't know what I meant by attack you were still doing it so hanging onto this.

jesus didn't realize this was page 5. haven't read. I'll go back and find reasons ace is scummy or die trying.

On the one hand this is ridiculous. On the other hand you never followed through.

Christ 13 pages in a day and a half? I'll probably just end up supporting whatever wagon is leading.

Give me some time.

Some more time? I'm typing up this whole post in under half an hour I think. We'll see just how long when I'm done.

Doubt he is scum, scum wouldn't be stupid enough to post something like that surely.

Explain.

This is moving really fast. I will reread at some point after I'm done with my homework.

And when will you post?

okay, wtf.
12 pages and I haven't even gotten to post yet!

Now's your chance.

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

I call BS.

Explain?

Painting potentially anti-town question as testing those who answer. I don't buy it.

Just because

you

see it that way is no reason to vote me and use it as your only reason...
In all my time playing mafia, I've never seen anyone get something so wrong.

Touchy. Farside seeing things her way is plenty reason for her to cast her vote that way. She even justified it. Then the entire thing from posts 11-13 in your iso. And after that you crash and burn. And then you OMGUS and call me a tunneler. And then you said you'd claim on request and didn't. And then you try to simplify the case on you to just your misdefinition and misapplication of tunnel vision. This is why I'm voting for you.

Rikenslope finds himself at odds ater waking up to read 7 pages of game already. I will re-read and post something more significant in a few hours.

How many is a few?

voet; jbenier

cos ur not inno

Yeah...

And why?

This first post from WRP came nine minutes after I called him out. Then he posts weird shit.

[molestargazer]

RichardGHP and WRP_Beaten appear to be the ones nearest to the chopping block at time of writing. So, I'll take a look at them both here.
In my P204, WRP fell beneath the radar - Richard I found to be a little aggressive, but little more than that. Let's see what recent developments are like.

Up until recently, I hadn't paid all that much attention to the content of the Farside/Richard debate about the cop question. Judging from what jbernier noted, as well as what I previously noted about the aggression, I would actually agree with Ythan in that he's on rather thin ice. I will watch developments as I read.

About P232 and the previous argument - I don't think that a vote based on vibes in early D1 is something particularly scummy. I think until discussion really gets going, votes should be taken with a pinch of salt. Whilst I wouldn't rely on it in an endgame (it's led me wrong more times than right), it's fine for now.

Farside - Seems fairly town at the moment, put a good vote on richard earlier which caused him to crumble and as such made him look

like anti town hiding something.

@Musher - Could you please clarify what you meant by this. Are you saying that farside made him look bad when essentially he isn't, or that you think that he is anti-town due to this apparent hiding?

@WRP_Beater: You might be new, but you came in at exactly the wrong moment. Can you give us some thoughts on the game? Or mafia in general? Or, really, anything?

Yes, I'm new

here

. You know, I've played in 6 mafias, 5 playing right now, 2 in MS. But I've never survived till the end . I know tactics, but if I'm scum I'm never able to resist pressuring. Believe me, if I was scum I'd do something wrong under pressure, but don't misunderstand: I'm not forcing you to pressure me . So, I won't claim right now, even if I see I look suspicious.

Ugh.
"If I were scum, I'd be doing this" just REEKS of mafia.

Why is Beater not dead yet?

Because it's 11 to lynch.

I lol'd.

Not my fault if there are 3 new pages a day here.

How is this relevant to you reeking of scum?

I find myself agreeing with Scribe again in that Musher's PbP wasn't all that great.

Everybody should vote me now.

Not useful. I would call it bloody useless were it not for the fact it made me lean towards voting for him again.

Oh my God what a huge tunnel.

... Oh, dear.

I shouldn't need a defense, I haven't done anything wrong.

I had previously misdefined the term "Tunnel Vision", and that is not scum-like.

I don't like your over-aggressiveness in defending yourself. I don't think your original question was particularly pro-town. I don't like your "fine, vote me" attitude. Seems almost like scum telling us to call their bluff. I'm tempted to.

Explain to me on what fucking planet is misdefining a word a scumtell.

Jesus christ, calm down. It could very much be seen as you flinging around terms in attempt to get the pressure off you.

I've just reached the end of P13, and I have to go. Please point out any mistakes, as ever, or comments. I'll reach a conclusion a little later.

[crypto]

Can you explain the context of this joke vote?

She wouldn't out the main she apparently had.

How would it not?

Not providing content would be active lurking; active lurking is a very popular scum tell. Scum are more likely to win if they convey a pro-town attitude. There's really nothing to gain from avoiding in-depth content; I've seen scum belt it out all the time.

What was this about?

It was facetious. You were mad about my obv. town read on you.

[SaintKerrigan]

FOS: SaintKerrigan. I wish you would stop making all my votes feel dirty with your mind-numbing bandwagoning.

I can't help it if you happen to be voting the same person I am.

[horrordude0215]

Richard is still my #1 suspect for scum right now, and his responses to the pressures on him seem to support my theory. As of right now, I think he's the best lynch

[farside22]

What reasoning that you had for this holds up now?

I still find Richard scummy. His response to my vote inched him up forther. His argument and tantrum kept me there.
I hate seeing a player BW and hope from one BW to the other for little to no reason and following others. It reeks of scum for me. SK hasn't put any thought into it and the first time I saw it I fos'ed it. This time it was more blantant. Nothing changed on WRP from Sk's last vote and his flip to Richard looks opportunistic.

[molestargazer]

If someone didn't understand my post, I'll explain it. Just ask. I was saying that even if I'm not a newbie at all, I always fall under pressure.

Please do clarify - the original post seemed very fishy.

[molestargazer]

For now, I'm happy to see if WRP can clarify. For now, I think Richard's the scummiest here - see my above P336 for what I've seen.

Unvote
Vote: RichardGHP

[SaintKerrigan]

Nothing changed on WRP from Sk's last vote and his flip to Richard looks opportunistic.

But Richard became even scummier in that interval. That's why I switched my vote.

[crypto]

Richard is still my #1 suspect for scum right now, and his responses to the pressures on him seem to support my theory. As of right now, I think he's the best lynch

Hi guys, I'm scum.

[farside22]

crypto: I don't know why you think horror is scum. All I got from you post was a gut tell.

SK: The devil is in the details. You are leaving details out when you vote and just going along with the BW without reason. That is what you seem continue to do.

[RichardGHP]

If only you all knew how much my head is hurting right now after a huge collision with my palm.

Claim time.

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Watcher

Everybody unvote now. kthxbai.

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP:

"Everybody voting me unvote now".

[WRP_Beater]

@WRP_Beater: You might be new, but you came in at exactly the wrong moment. Can you give us some thoughts on the game? Or mafia in general? Or, really, anything?

Yes, I'm new

here

. You know, I've played in 6 mafias, 5 playing right now, 2 in MS. But I've never survived till the end .I know tactics, but if I'm scum I'm never able to resist pressuring. Believe me, if I was scum I'd do something wrong under pressure, but don't misunderstand: I'm not forcing you to pressure me . So, I won't claim right now, even if I see I look suspicious.

Molestargazer wants me to explain this once again, so... It's the first time I've played mafia here but I've already played some games elsewhere. Even if I've played elsewhere, if I am scum I always lose. Now, I know I can look scummy, but that's the fact. If you don't believe me, see how

epic fail

I was in this mafia, where I was a SK.
@RichardGP: Isn't this mafia running in the New York section? Aren't there only newbie games here?

[horrordude0215]

Richard is still my #1 suspect for scum right now, and his responses to the pressures on him seem to support my theory. As of right now, I think he's the best lynch

Hi guys, I'm scum.

And you get this how?