Open 209: The Invasion of Liten (Game Over)

[Nikanor]

I would prefer Nico first, Max. He's my strongest read atm.
I think your read of SFG is wrong, but that's just because I know her meta.
That said, she IS active lurking and needs to post more content.

[Haylen]

Nikanor, is Haylen scummy?

Her active lurking is a minor tell, but the fact that she's doing it so blatantly introduces WIFOM.
She's mostly just pissing me off. If you're not going to play the game then why bother signing up?

Nikanor, when I signed up, I did not know I was going to be reading and rating 30, 72 page games.

You've played with me before, you know my playstyle (cant remember what games though) but I can guarantee you I wasnt really active in them until a few posts after because on top of business and the fact it takes me 3 hrs to write 1 analysis post, my Day One play sucks.

[Nikanor]

Re: Nikanor. Isn't that play style thing, though? Pithy posts like that are what the cool people do here at MS. I do agree it's annoying. I don't mind pithy, but I do mind pithy and meaningless.

Is it just me, or did you just call Haylen cool?
I haven't played with Haylen in a while, but the last time I played with her was when she was scum, and iirc she acted a lot like this.
I don't know her current town meta, though, so the fact that she acted like this as scum is null at best.
And Max, I thought that crypto was scum for a while, but he's actually doing some decent scumhunting. Right now I have a neutral-town read on him.

[crypto]

Is it just me, or did you just call Haylen cool?

If you want me to add a

SARCASM

tag to every other sentence I write, just let me know.

And Max, I thought that crypto was scum for a while, but he's actually doing some decent scumhunting. Right now I have a neutral-town read on him.

Thanks for your seal of approval.

[Nikanor]

Thanks for your seal of approval.

You're welcome! I know how important my opinion is to people.

@Haylen: Please improve your play. If you at least TRIED to scumhunt I would be happy.

[crypto]

Nikanor, when I signed up, I did not know I was going to be reading and rating 30, 72 page games.

That's a pretty good excuse if you ask me. That's a huge amount of work.

[Pulindar]

I really don't like Pully after he posted opinions on players after he was asked to do so, which he didn't state before when he wasn't asked to do so.
I'd also like to know why Horror wasn't included in post 80.

I don't like how you put this. First off, I was never prompted to give my opinion on everyone. I was asked to see if I saw anyone as particularly scummy. I'm not sure why I was asked that, but I decided to answer as fully as I could with reasons for each person.
On another note I may not have done that without some prompting, but I don't see why that's a problem? As you'll note I don't see it as time yet to ask others for a comprehensive opinion yet either. When I do I will begin posting my opinion on players I tend to keep it constantly up to date. It will change as I reread, and as I see new information. but I will keep it up to date.

As for not including Horror, I forgot to write notes about him so I had forgotten about him. I didn't include you either.

Pully, what's your reason behind voting me?

I'd rather not say, but I will explain as soon as I get what I want from it. To say though would stop me from getting it. I will say that I like leaving it there for now though.

Would you care to say specifically what threw your vote over to me?
It seems to me like an OMGUS vote, which I do tend to find scummy.
If It's not, please let me know. If you can give a good reason I'd appreciate it.

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As for the Nkia, Nico, SPS thing. I'm kinda waiting for it to play out a bit more right now. I'm not sure I like any side of it. I'll see how it plays out and decide from there.

As for Haylen, I think she's town... this isn't like her game in our science game at all. Then again I always think Haylen is town so...

@Nika: I liked that last avatar better

@Maxx: I really dislike your first post, but I would like to hear your reasons for those pairs.

I don't think I've missed anything, but if I have please just ask or draw my attention to it.

[SaintKerrigan]

"What about Dr. York?" Nik Anor asked. "How do we know that she didn't just kill Simmons herself?"

Actually, that's a good question,

Sarah thought. "Dr. York, what did you did with the Arkon body found in the lab earlier?"

"I have some of my scientists analyzing the body now," Haylen replied. "They'll report any findings to me."

"I'll want to see the body later," Sarah remarked. "Have you found anything regarding the detection of the Arkons?"

"Not yet. I'm working as fast as I can."

"How do we know she isn't stalling?" inquired Nik.

Haylen glared at him momentarily, then resumed staring at the data on her pocket-PC. The fact that Haylen hadn't found anything yet was...not good. If they couldn't find a way to detect the Arkons, how were the colonists supposed to defeat them?

And there were still the Rebels to think about...

The Holy Aunt Toledo! Vote Count

(1) Slaxx: Nicodemus

(4) Haylen: Haylen, Slaxx, Horrordude0215, Alduskkel

(1) Steam-Powered Shovel: Crypto
(2) Sanhora: SFG, Pulindar
(1) Horrordude0215: Sniper
(2) Nicodemus: Nikanor, Steam-Powered Shovel
(1) Pulindar: Sanhora

Not Voting: Max

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: March 11th, 2010 at 8:00 p.m. CST

[Nikanor]

@Nika: I liked that last avatar better

Me too.
I changed it back. \o/

[crypto]

Meta: crypto. I apologize in advance for the lack of scum meta.

[SFG]

You really gotta love SFG's vote on me. Stating herself that there are days that she 'lurks' and then want me to talk. Thursday is my busiest day, with a possible exception of the weekend.

Well how was I to know that? Anyways, you're good now.

unvote

You poor poor thing, what games did you read?

I read the game that Pul linked, Sanhora and SPS provided brief summaries of their meta, and I've played with Nik on IRC very frequently (although I suppose that means I know his IRC meta better than his forum meta).

I did some egregious skimming so I'll have to reread, but SPS needs to be dead right now.

Why so sure?

@Max, I honestly can't tell if that was a joke or not. At any rate, since you decided to show up, mind enlightening me on your meta instead of throwing dirt at whoever catches your fancy?

@Nik's accusation of active lurking. Remember what day yesterday is? That's right, it was a Thursday. What days did I say I had a lot of class? Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays.
also btw I hate the beginning of Day 1 with a fiery passion and I guess you missed me on IRC yesterday as "essay" asking people to lynch me so I wouldn't have to write me

That said, i am going to vote for...hm, someone who has confirmed but not posted yet.
...? Max has posted but not confirmed, and our mod is obviously present. xP Go read your role pm before you start playing, please, it wreaks havoc with me retrospective reads.

Actually, he told me he forgot to confirm via PM, which I took as a confirmation. I haven't gotten around to updating the first post yet. Doing so now...

Actually, everyone has posted now. Time to start looking for scum~

[SaintKerrigan]

All players have confirmed.

[Nikanor]

Nik Anor

So wait. My name is Miss Anor? >_>

@SFG: If you have time to write a paragraph about meta, you have time to write a paragraph of scumhunting.

Actually, everyone has posted now. Time to start looking for scum~

Looking forward to it.

@crypto: What's with the new avatar?

[Nicodemus]

I'm going to be V/LA for the rest of this weekend. I'll post a bit, but not much.

[crypto]

ATTENTION SCUMBAG LURKER

2. Is lurking a scum tell?

. . .

2. Yes.

Why so sure?

His Nico case looks so opportunistic my head asplode.

@crypto: What's with the new avatar?

A GD thread gave me a little inspiration. And the House avatar was distastefully unsubtle.

[SFG]

oh crypto, you poor thing, you've had the experience of playing with muh. Much pity for you. At any rate, I think I have a sense of your town meta and the mere fact that you've never been scum will suffice for your scum meta

Sadly, I can't read two games at once, so I will reread this current game when I finish packing (spring break next week!)

[SFG]

also @Nik, meta comes before scumhunting at this point in the game because about half of all potential scumtells thus far could easily also be meta tells.

[horrordude0215]

Unvote

for now until I get the chance to read through and get some opinions on everyone

[Max]

@SFG

My meta is that I don't follow meta. I am pursuing a new kick every game, not becoming fixated. Consider that a meta in effect.

Also, that post was serious, take heed.

You ignored my question, I'd like you to answer it please.

@Pulindar

You ignored my question, I'd like you to answer it please.

I really dislike your first post, but I would like to hear your reasons for those pairs.

I think it's fairly obvious, the first two players are scum together, through post 90.

The second through posts 100 and 101.

@Nikanor

I would prefer Nico first, Max. He's my strongest read atm.

Who is Nico's partner?

And Max, I thought that crypto was scum for a while, but he's actually doing some decent scumhunting. Right now I have a neutral-town read on him.

Interesting...

@Haylen

Why did you ignore my post?

[Pulindar]

@Pulindar

You ignored my question, I'd like you to answer it please.

I really dislike your first post, but I would like to hear your reasons for those pairs.

I think it's fairly obvious, the first two players are scum together, through post 90.

The second through posts 100 and 101.

Sorry Max, I hate when people do that to me.

No, I don't have a preference. I'm not sure on any of them, and I'd like to hunt a bit more first. Either way though, go after whichever you like. I could see how you could create a case on any of them.

As for those posts, I see what you mean, but I don't quite agree. I'll have to look at it more.

@Nikanor

I would prefer Nico first, Max. He's my strongest read atm.

Who is Nico's partner?

And Max, I thought that crypto was scum for a while, but he's actually doing some decent scumhunting. Right now I have a neutral-town read on him.

Interesting...

What do you find interesting about Nika's response?

[Haylen]

@Haylen
Why did you ignore my post?

I skimmed the thread. Forgot you were in the game.

[Haylen]

So.

The following are scum:
Crypto
with
SFG
and
Steam-Powered Shovel
with
Nicodemus

Lynch them. Does anybody have preference of who to lynch first?

If you mean this one, I dont know who i want to lynch yet.

[Haylen]

@Haylen: You don't seem to mind the Bandwagon on you, correct?
Would it be more effective to start a bandwagon on someone else?
If so who do you think would be effective?

I love my bandwagon!
Lol, honestly, I really like bandwagons. I strive under the pressure.

It might be affective in order to scumhunt.

Hmm...just a gut feeling.

Unvote Vote Nikanor

[Pulindar]

Oh, I forgot

unvote: San L-7

I was not able to accomplish what I wanted, I was trying to find an inconsistency in someone else, and it didn't work.

[SFG]

Haylen

A lot of frustratingly little content, but interaction in there too, and reasonably explained by her most recent post.

Sanhora

Fashionably late to the party.
A little bit of misrepresentation directed at me there, I voted you because of a method I picked up from Troll at the end of my first game here (see #29). I explained this rather badly, but you also got pretty defensive there. You say that this is your meta, but I would like a link to an example post or game to be sure.
Why don't you like the Nico wagon? I would like at least one point against it to back up your argument.

Max

Please post content.

Pulindar

I didn't notice it before but it bugs me now that its on my radar...in Post 1 (ISO) you subtly imply that you and Haylen aren't a scumpair. This mostly bugs me because of how subtle it is.
You really weren't into early wagons in the game I read, yet you are trying to start them now. Any reason for the change of heart?
Likes Nico for attacking her, interesting. Will be even more interesting later in the game.
Also, I notice that in the Science game you were fawning over BM townhunting, you say you intend to copy his strategy, yet you also say you do scumhunting, not townhunting
Likes Nika for her defense, interesting.
Overall someone to keep an eye on as the game progresses, although I will be keeping my other eye on anyone whose post count is half or less than average.

Alduskkel

The only thing you've done is hopped on a wagon, placing it at L-2. I would like explanation because this is part of the critical point of a wagon where scum tend to jump on.

crypto

Why do you find nonparticipation in RVS scummy?
why do you feel the need to mark your like...6th serious question as being serious, when you didn't mark the others?
Why does SPS need to be dead now?
Finally, in ISO 30, you misattributed a quote about your avatar to me. The quote is actually from Nik
Overall getting slight town vibes from you.

Nikanor

obv. one or the other of us is scum because i CC'd his Cop claim.
decent amounts of scumhunting mixed with lol.
I don't find your case on Nico particularly telling, but then again, at this point in time nothing is particularly telling.
Also, for my style of scumhunting, it actually takes me 1-3 hours to make a post, depending on how many people I'm looking at and how late it is in the game, as well as the density of scumtells and towntells in their posts. I started this one an hour ago and I'm about halfway through, not counting breaks to help my boyfriend pack.

SFG

Obvscum. I mean come on, he should just change his name to Scummy McGoon and be done with it.

Steam-Powered Shovel

dislike posts 1 and 2
strike that you answered it in the next post
I would like you to try and make a post about a player other than Nico soonish. You seem to have a bit of an obsession with his scumminess.

Slaxx

very very little content at first
then you throw out a couple questions and go back to no content.
i dont like you

horrordude0215

i see by your title that you are a noob.
misrep right in post 0, probably a joke or noobishness
other than that, you have all the qualities of active lurking except for "over an extended period of time"
congratulations.

Nicodemus

really aggressive play style. REALLY aggressive. Do you have a couple meta games you could link me while you work at getting that stick out of your butt?

Sniper

content: 0
votes: 1
please post with actual content, and also your name makes it obvious that you are a vig, and you should totally claim that right now.