Mafia 109 - A Glitch in time - Game Over!

[Ythan]

Are you seriously attacking Para for saying "let's lynch clergy" without making a case, when you've been doing the exact same thing for the past 4 pages to the new replacement?

You get that a replacement fills the same role as his predecessor?

[Yosarian2]

Are you seriously attacking Para for saying "let's lynch clergy" without making a case, when you've been doing the exact same thing for the past 4 pages to the new replacement?

You get that a replacement fills the same role as his predecessor?

Hay look, more useless spam. How helpful.




Yes, Ythan, if MaB was scum, then so is his replacement. Which is why you should sit back and make a case for them being scum, with quotes and explanations and stuff, instead of just spamming up the thread with dozens of useless one-line posts that say nothing.

[camn]

Ok.. this game needs more signal and WAY less noise.

1.

Parama

Town

. A little too tunnelled on that CSL policy lynch, but we have all been there.
2.

Nachomamma

Null read due to low signal:noise
3.

McZombie

Lurking

in all my games. Please die IRL.
5.

Maemuki

lolmaeisaccusingsomebodyofactivelurking

ISO 33 redeems her though.

Townish

.
6.

Ythan

Town, but actually

hurting the game

. I would have daykilled him already if this were Medieval Mafia. BOO.
7.

Pulindar

(Rep. Miserable At Best)
I like the replacement, but MAB was REALLY SCUMMY.
I almost buy that he was a rookie overwhelmed by our awesomeness... but then I remember when BM replaced out as scum in endgame.

NEVER AGAIN SCUM.

8.

Dramonic

Die lurker die

. This game = awesome, and it should be your #1.
9.

camn

obvtown

.
10.

SpyreX

I agree with his ISO 9 re: hoops.

probtown

. But he is good enough to fool me.
11.

A Clergyman with a Hoop

I don't see scum here. I like ISO 33/34 a lot, and think that they defended too hard to be buddies with Nika.
On the other hand...

Camn needs to learn to stop breadcrumbing in the RVS.

I always breadcrumb. Regardless of role. And every time, pointing it out is scummy.
Last time that happened, it was Yos/Nuwen.. and they were scum. And it was a fake breadcrumb.
I would accept a

deadline lynch

, but I have a

town

read right now.
12.

Drippereth

OBV

TOWN

.
14.

Yosarian2

I generally respect Yos's play VERY HIGHLY, but I think he is off his feed this game.
Spinning out a theory argument after the Nik non-hammer?
Sadly, even when I get a full town-read from Yos, I tend to want to lynch him, since he is another one who can fool me.
I am glad he is finally here to help me control the spam problem though. NULL READ.
15.

Anon

Are you serious when you say Parama is scum, Drip?

Vote: Nikanor.

I am that good.

Prob

Town

16.

KMD

(numbers)
Die, my

lurking

friend. This game deserves more respect.
17.

Weaboo

In his ISO 2 he is on to something, but then seems unconvinced later. Maybe this is Hydra crosstalk. I am feeling his 9 and 10.. but I need WAY more posts from this filthy lurker.

probtown

[Ythan]

If anyone's made a useless post here I think it's a certain someone else. If you want me to reiterate my case at the top of every page or something so you can see it more easily I'll think about accommodating, but don't be so pushy about it if you haven't even asked. It's back there already and not too hard to find.

[camn]

VOTE : YTHAN

Yos deserves WAY more respect, rookie.

[Ythan]

camn

-Why is your Parama read town and not null? Is tunneling pro-town to you?
-Is McZ really lurking, or just not around?
-As for your read on me, don't bother doing anything aside from complaining or anything.

[Ythan]

VOTE : YTHAN

Yos deserves WAY more respect, rookie.

Forgive me for basing my level of respect for him off of this game I'm playing with him right now.

[Parama]

Hi. Here's 3 quotes to why Parama is town.

Oh, and I'm not claiming.
Lalalala~.

unvote, vote Nikanor

random hammer mode activate

Nikanor - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day One

Also, I think Ythan is town. But he needs to stop spamming.

[camn]

camn

-Why is your Parama read town and not null? Is tunneling pro-town to you?
-Is McZ really lurking, or just not around?
-As for your read on me, don't bother doing anything aside from complaining or anything.

1> I don't explain town-reads.

2> I don't know. I dont know her in real life. I don't care. Dropping out of games is even worse than lurking.

3> I can't cut through the uselessness of this to see any real meaning whatsoever. . . but I will lay it out for you.
You have become a liability to the town.
All threats to the town must die.
Thus, you must die.

[Ythan]

Yeah at most I'm making pointless posts to reply to pointless posts so~

Anyone who is actually going to complain about it should hardly be the one propagating it.

[Yosarian2]

If anyone's made a useless post here I think it's a certain someone else. If you want me to reiterate my case at the top of every page or something so you can see it more easily I'll think about accommodating, but don't be so pushy about it if you haven't even asked. It's back there already and not too hard to find.

Ythan, this is the "case" you made:

MaB iso

0 You want RVS to be as big a waste a time as possible?
1 I don't see this request following from slow loading times.
5 So you're useless and we should kill you instead of a contributing potential townie?
6 So you're useless and we should kill you instead of a contributing potential townie?
8 Deflecting the case on you by pointing out that Nik pushed against you is scummy.
9 Yes there's a wagon on you and for good reason.
11 They very well could, when stacked up with your idiotic actions.
13 Pitiful attempt? Die scum.

affirm vote

That's not a case. You completely failed to point out anything that he did that was scummy, or if you did you didn't do so in a way that makes any sense to me.

Since then, you've posted something like 55 more times, and over and over again you kept saying "I've alraedy made my case against Pulindar". The fact is, you haven't. I really have no idea at all why you suspect him, and I'm honestly not sure if you know why either.

Why are you so reluctant to explain your suspicions here, Ythan?

[Parama]

Camn, if Ythan is town but not scum, why is he a good lynch in your opinion? If he would shut up for a moment we could focus on scumhunting.

[Ythan]

That is hardly all I've been saying over the past 55 or so posts. More to the point, if you don't find his history suspicious then don't vote for him? But going into how those things are suspect shouldn't I think be necessary in-game. Not for me anyway, and it's my vote I'm backing up.

[Ythan]

Camn, if Ythan is town but not scum, why is he a good lynch in your opinion? If he would shut up for a moment we could focus on scumhunting.

Yeah I apologize for preventing anyone else from being able to communicate. Oh wait.

[Parama]

Camn, if Ythan is town but not scum, why is he a good lynch in your opinion? If he would shut up for a moment we could focus on scumhunting.

Yeah I apologize for preventing anyone else from being able to communicate. Oh wait.

Your major problem is hypocrisy IIRC.

[Ythan]

Camn, if Ythan is town but not scum, why is he a good lynch in your opinion? If he would shut up for a moment we could focus on scumhunting.

Yeah I apologize for preventing anyone else from being able to communicate. Oh wait.

Your major problem is hypocrisy IIRC.

Your major problem is going to be explaining how that makes a bit of sense.

[Drippereth]

Question:

Is Nachomamma guilty of the IIoA Wikitell?

Statements:

MaB/Plulindur IS STILL SCUM.
Ythan is still town.
Dramonic IS scummy AND lurky.

[Ythan]

Where exactly did Nacho get into IIoA?

[Parama]

Camn, if Ythan is town but not scum, why is he a good lynch in your opinion? If he would shut up for a moment we could focus on scumhunting.

Yeah I apologize for preventing anyone else from being able to communicate. Oh wait.

Your major problem is hypocrisy IIRC.

Your major problem is going to be explaining how that makes a bit of sense.

Welp.
You're calling me out for posting without saying anything whilst doing twice that yourself.
You're calling me out on a lack of a case when your MaB/Pulindar case is even weaker. (Plus, you never really gave evidence)

[Yosarian2]

That is hardly all I've been saying over the past 55 or so posts. More to the point, if you don't find his history suspicious then don't vote for him?

I actually do find his play suspicious, and I've said so. That's irrelevent here; I want YOU to explain yourself here.

But going into how those things are suspect shouldn't I think be necessary in-game.

How what things are suspect? I don't even know what "things" you find suspicious about his play. You babbled something about the random voting stage and something about how "defelcting the wagon on you by saying Nik was attacking is scummy" (which is just a terrible argument, btw), and that's it.

Not for me anyway, and it's my vote I'm backing up.

Wait, what?

The point of making a case is A. to convince other people, B. to get a response so you can read the person better, and C. so other people can read you.

Again, like you said, this is kind of how mafia is supposed to work. You refused to explain yourself to the replacement, and now you're refusing to explain yourself to me.

You're the one who's so convinced he's scum, and you clearly have huge amounts of time on your hands; why is it that you're incapable of quoting a few posts of his and saying "These posts are scummy because of X"?

[Ythan]

Welp.
You're calling me out for posting without saying anything whilst doing twice that yourself.
You're calling me out on a lack of a case when your MaB/Pulindar case is even weaker. (Plus, you never really gave evidence)

Everything about your post is wrong. I'm

not

calling you out for posting without saying anything. My case is

not

weaker than yours because do you even have a "case"?

[Yosarian2]

Welp.
You're calling me out for posting without saying anything whilst doing twice that yourself.
You're calling me out on a lack of a case when your MaB/Pulindar case is even weaker. (Plus, you never really gave evidence)

Everything about your post is wrong. I'm

not

calling you out for posting without saying anything. My case is

not

weaker than yours because do you even have a "case"?

:eyebrow:

You attacked Para because, and I quote:

No I'm just going to continue to push the case that (among other things) you're not backing up your own cases.

So why are you so unwilling to back up your own cases, Ythan?

[Kmd4390]

Guys, stop posting so much.

Guess I should read up.

[Parama]

Whoops I think I missed this.

Parama, are you only suspicious of people who opposed the Nikanor wagon? Why are scum more likely to take that position over bussing?

Actually I'm looking for likely scum. You and dram have expressed your discontent over the Nikanor wagon/lynch (even after the scumflip) while forgetting to give reasons why he wasn't scum.

I dont have a really big ISO

, I gave reason why I didn't think Nik was scum. Look a bit before throwing stuff randomly?

That's part of the problem.
First off, this is the only reason you gave for why the Nikanor wagon was bad:

@Ythan: A case based on 1 post that isnt even scummy doesnt need to be dismantled. a combination of scum and misguided town (or borderline neurotic for Drip ) doesnt need a case to make a wagon. That's what's happening here.

You say that it was based on one post. Welp, no, Nikanor had several scummy posts early on that caused a wagon to form. So your "defense" is null and void.

[Ythan]

How what things are suspect? I don't even know what "things" you find suspicious about his play. You babbled something about the random voting stage and something about how "defelcting the wagon on you by saying Nik was attacking is scummy" (which is just a terrible argument, btw), and that's it.

Iso I posted about him. And if you want to get specific about how that's not a good argument I'd love to hear your case that there's nothing wrong with his "I'm not scum the scum attacked me" defense. It's deflection, and deflection is deflection.

Wait, what?

The point of making a case is A. to convince other people, B. to get a response so you can read the person better, and C. so other people can read you.

Again, like you said, this is kind of how mafia is supposed to work. You refused to explain yourself to the replacement, and now you're refusing to explain yourself to me.

Actually did explain myself to the replacement. Explained plenty far enough.

You're the one who's so convinced he's scum, and you clearly have huge amounts of time on your hands; why is it that you're incapable of quoting a few posts of his and saying "These posts are scummy because of X"?

Technically, there's no reason to think I have more time but only that I'm using it more thoroughly (arguable but eh). More to the point, that was what my iso was for and do you really want me to go into more detail over it?