Mini 897 - OpenSource Mafia - Game over!!

Iecerint · Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:48 pm

You're right! Comedy gold!

My favorite part is where I call you annoying and no one cares.

Second place is when I give in and decide to totally flip-flop on the RB issue without provocation.

SocioPath · Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:05 pm

Iecerint wrote:My favorite part is where I call you annoying and no one cares.

I CARED. D;<

And all I got in response was a

Faraday · Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:13 pm

Eh good win I guess. I didn't really follow the game much after my death.

Set-up seems quite hard on the town (with that many possible cop sanities they're all pretty much useless) plus the death miller and 2 millers.

At least I was right about Pom.

Was fairly unhappy @ some things in this game. I think the Mod arguing back and forth with Phate was pretty bad. That sort of discussion should be saved till after game.

I'd also have appreciated more regular vote counts, (it seemed I was hammered ages before the lynch scene?)

Socio was my night 1 investigation target

Not that it'd have mattered me being paranoid I guess.

SocioPath · Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:11 am

Faraday wrote:I think the Mod arguing back and forth with Phate was pretty bad.

I agree.
Although Phate gives himself way too much credit and his attitude in general is a very poor one, to say the least.
Misplaced egos abound.
I'm glad he stepped out when he did.

Fishythefish · Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:18 am

I can only apologise for my play in this game. For some reason, I never really got into it in a meaningful way - I don't think I'm suited to this kind of game (ie. huge amounts of information, all of which turns out be useless at best). TBH, I think the town would have had more chance in 8-3-1 mountainous - which is not a good place to be.

Well done SP.

Faraday · Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:17 am

SocioPath wrote:
Faraday wrote:I think the Mod arguing back and forth with Phate was pretty bad.
I agree.
Although Phate gives himself way too much credit and his attitude in general is a very poor one, to say the least.

Well yeah, but I think as a mod you shouldn't argue with someone trying to break your set-up. I know I restrict my mod comments completely when modding. I think stuff like that can be saved untill after the game.

Anyway congrats on the win, I think you probably deserved it all things considered.

TBH, I think the town would have had more chance in 8-3-1 mountainous - which is not a good place to be.

Agreed. Still doesn't take away fropm the win.

Iecerint · Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:28 am

Faraday wrote:At least I was right about Pom.

Socio was my night 1 investigation target Not that it'd have mattered me being paranoid I guess.

We could have lynched SP D2 if you'd stuck around? That's even better than a Pom target. Now my heart is broken. If only I'd saved you sooner.

SlySly · Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:00 am

Faraday wrote: Well yeah, but I think as a mod you shouldn't argue with someone trying to break your set-up. I know I restrict my mod comments completely when modding. I think stuff like that can be saved untill after the game.

Sorry, this was the first game I created. Phate was so far off with the things he was assuming and he was being such a condescending asshole about it, I couldn't help but respond. In the future I will save it for post game.

Snow_Bunny · Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:33 am

Good game, Sly. Major mind screw, at least for me.

SlySly · Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:38 am

Yeah, Snow, you couldn't have made any more confusing picks, lol!!

Pomegranate · Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:59 am

I haven't finished reading the postgame yet...

SocioPath wrote:
AlmasterGM wrote:Indeed. You are on permanent radar from now on.

Oh yeah, and I TOLD YOU Pom was scum.
I think Pom has been scum in every game I've played with her, as well.

Well, this is only the second.

--

I was so excited... if only I had killed SB...

Iecerint · Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:07 pm

You did innit? And targeting SP would just've led to a town win; I'd rather lose to SPSK.

I was surprised you didn't jump on SP's obvious fakeclaim. You might have been able to get SB to lynch SP with you given that SP was almost certainly responsible for the deletion kills and hadn't taken responsibility. His conversion ability, though apparently real, was hard for me to believe personally. I suppose SSK kinda tied your hands, though.

Alternatively, you and SSK could have rush-voted either of the two players for a certain win. Deadline would have lynched whoever had the most votes first in the event of a tie.

SlySly · Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:19 pm

Iecerint wrote: I was surprised you didn't jump on SP's obvious fakeclaim.

His claim wasn't fake, just partial.

Iecerint · Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:22 pm

It looked awfully fake to me.

SocioPath · Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:26 pm

Iecerint wrote:SP's obvious fakeclaim.

My claim was real.
It just left off the alignment part, and the killing part.

Iecerint wrote:Alternatively, you and SSK could have rush-voted either of the two players for a certain win. Deadline would have lynched whoever had the most votes first in the event of a tie.

That is smart thinking.

SlySly · Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:41 pm

Iecerint wrote: Alternatively, you and SSK could have rush-voted either of the two players for a certain win. Deadline would have lynched whoever had the most votes first in the event of a tie.

On the last day, a tie would have resulted in a No Lynch.

SlySly wrote:
Deadline for voting is Wed, Feb 24th, 7pm central. If a lynch has not been reached by then a No Lynch will occur and Night 4 will begin. No extension will be granted.

SocioPath · Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:56 am

SlySly wrote:
Night 1:
4. UncertainKitty (Psychiatrist) - /target MafiaSSK - No results

Night 3:
4. UncertainKitty - /reveal MafiaSSK - no results

Also this part makes zero sense to me.
It was already stated, by UK herself, that actions weren't super word sensitive.
Unless it was still riding that whole RB thing.

Although immediately into D3 the whole formatting thing was brought up again like it was a case point or something...even though it was already clarified earlier.

Which only confirmed my suspicions even more so.
Cranking the scum dial from 9 to 11.

Iecerint · Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:05 am

I asked her about it earlier; she said she was thinking about the RB.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:15 am

SP wrote:
Which only confirmed my suspicions even more so.
Cranking the scum dial from 9 to 11.

Huh? On who? Me? That's kinda stupid to do on someone who's (now) confirmed town since the beginning of the game.

SocioPath · Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:30 am

UncertainKitten wrote:
SP wrote:
Which only confirmed my suspicions even more so.
Cranking the scum dial from 9 to 11.
Huh? On who? Me? That's kinda stupid to do on someone who's (now) confirmed town since the beginning of the game.

You play like scum, you get treated like scum. ;o
And of all the players, you were playing arguably the scummiest.

Whether or not your name tag says 'scum' or 'town' doesn't make it 'stupid' to treat you based on how you were acting. ;o

Getting a role marked as 'town' doesn't give one free reign to make illogical rampages and get off scot-free without consequence just because THEY know they are town.
Scum may have to portray themselves as town, but town also have to "portray" themselves as town.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:31 am

Then why wasn't I lynched, SP?

Riddle me that. If I'm so "scummy" then the lynch mechanic should deal with me.

Therefore, you might want to revise what you consider "scummy"

SocioPath · Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:46 am

UncertainKitten wrote:Then why wasn't I lynched, SP?

Riddle me that. If I'm so "scummy" then the lynch mechanic should deal with me.

Therefore, you might want to revise what you consider "scummy"

Heh,
Answer is easy:

First, the day I was gunning for your lynch, the voting consisted of obvtown Vaya at that point:
4 people.
Fishy - Who was taking a case I made on D1 and using it.
You - Same
SSK - Double scum team up quick lynch
Pom - Double scum team up quick lynch

Second, and more concisely:

Why weren't you lynched?

...Why did scum get a perfect win in TTGL?
The answer to that should answer about the 'lynch mechanic'. ;D

Its fun to debate though.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:51 am

The thing is, scuminess is quite subjective. People get lynched for being "scummy" in the eyes of the town. Your unilateral opinion on scuminess doesn't dictate whether I was playing scummily or not. What dictates that is whether the majority of the town thought so, thusly lynching me. If I had truly been the scummiest player, I would have been lynched D1.

SocioPath · Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:07 am

UncertainKitten wrote:The thing is, scuminess is quite subjective. People get lynched for being "scummy" in the eyes of the town. Your unilateral opinion on scuminess doesn't dictate whether I was playing scummily or not. What dictates that is whether the majority of the town thought so, thusly lynching me. If I had truly been the scummiest player, I would have been lynched D1.

Not everyone is created equally, and thus, certain players notice certain trends while others may not.

Look at the players that I made strong, compelling cases against, and then pursued, and look at which of those were scum.

I'm just saying, pursuing you for your lack of logic, and pseudo-contradictions, and absurd assumptions, not seeing clearly, and etc...
...doesn't tarnish my name. ;D

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:13 am

I'm just saying, pursuing you for your lack of logic, and pseudo-contradictions, and absurd assumptions, not seeing clearly, and etc...
...doesn't tarnish my name. ;D

Cept it makes you wrong, which does "tarnish your name".

You've played with me enough to know how I play. And I'm pretty sure that if an outside observer looked at my behavior, they might facepalm, but they'd be able to read townie intent. And that's really how you scum hunt. You don't use a list of tells, you figure out if the "scumtell" is being done to hurt town or if it's a misguided attempt to help town.