Mini 903 - Owarai TV (Game over... who won?)

[Amished]

*bump for thread glitch*

[Starbuck]

Amished, you don't have to be so rude.

[Amished]

I hate it when something that shouldn't have been in the game makes me lose. Raivann wasn't playing that badly, nor was I.

Heck, with me strongly against lynching cc.com, we got the cop to claim. You tell me how that's solid town play that should've gotten a win out of this situation.

[Kise]

Cop+Doc+DV would've been broken, nobody would've (or should've) believed that.

A goon was the only mafia flip, so why didn't you speculate that there could be a RBer and/or Godfather?

Thread glitch was a bitch. I think it's because I deleted a double post at the end of day 1.

[Devestation]

Damn, I was guessing xRECKONERx and Amished were the two mafia -_-

Just goes to show I suck at this game.

[Amished]

I think at the time starbuck coming out would've solidified that one of us was lying. There's not many mods (especially not any that have your experience with playing, Kise) that put that many PR's into a game; especially with the original PM about this being a game of natural scumhunters.

[xRECKONERx]

I would not have believed a town doc claim, probably, but it would've made me question Starbuck's backup role claim.

[Amished]

xRx: Would you have believed that Anon was a GF had I actually killed Starbuck on N5?

[xRECKONERx]

No.

[Amished]

K, gg town (setup) then. Makes me feel better in any case.

[xRECKONERx]

You got screwed by shitty partners imo

[Amished]

Raivann didn't play *that* bad; aside from lurking.

[xRECKONERx]

Raivann is always scummy.

[Amished]

Yeah, so he's not outside his meta which is a point *for* him, actually.

Granted, he's scum *a lot* of the time, but still inside his town meta of being scummy no matter what. If only people would control for that when I'm Raiv's scumpartner >_>

[Starbuck]

If Night 4 hadn't been so short and I was able to get my investigation in, it would have been on Amished.

[Raskol]

yeah, setup was pretty imbalanced.

I'm happy I got things right for once though =/

[xRECKONERx]

I fail to see how cop + DV + backup is unbalanced.

[Raskol]

Cop by itself is pretty OP, especially when the mafia have no roleblocker, godfather, or anything else to deal with it.

Giving the cop a backup on top of that is just overkill. It makes getting rid of the cop almost as hard to do as if there were a doctor. Against a 3-goon team, it's pretty imbalanced.

[VP Baltar]

I agree with Amished and Raskol actually. I'm happy for the victory, but this was a massively unbalanced setup in the town's favor. One cop + DV against 3 goons would have been OK, but the backup was complete overkill.

Amished made a good move by bussing so hard Day 1, though it was obviously starting to be questionable after Dev flipped town. Raivann was lurky scum, but no one seemed to be paying all that much attention to him. Honestly, I think the scum team deserved to win this one because most of the town played poorly and only came around because of PRs.

[Amished]

Yeah, Raskol; the only reason you were killed was cause of your "I think the scumteam is Amished and Raivann" comment. What the hell did you see in us?

[Anon]

Lol, why was I killed?

Yeah, the setup was kinda imba. You could see me definitely expecting a godfather in my last post, taking into account that an informational role would be pretty much assured to live near lylo.

I think the scum played wellish after the hell debacle and that they got really unlucky with starbuck making a perfect breadcrumb that automatically removed all the suspicions I had on her. The town also played good enough to win this, imo. Althoug, the Dev lynch was pretty fail.

Solid play by Reck too. I think it was a mistake to leave him alive.

Good game all. And thx Kise for the modding. 3

[Amished]

You were killed in the hopes that I could fool xRx into thinking that Star was a gambiting scum (and that a backup cop was broken to the balance of the game).

I thought that killing xRx would be useless as Star's "buddying"/investigation of you would make you vote me and star would obviously vote me.

So it was down to killing you {Anon} or Star. I wanted to kill starbuck the more I thought about it; but it really ended up not mattering.

I think the scum played wellish after the hell debacle and that they got really unlucky with starbuck making a perfect breadcrumb that automatically removed all the suspicions I had on her. The town also played good enough to win this, imo. Althoug, the Dev lynch was pretty fail.

Contradictory logic. Scum got unlucky to lose; town played good enough to win (so what happened to the "luck"?)

[Anon]

OMG, AMISHED STOP TRYING TO MISLYNCH ME, THE GAME IS OVERRRRRRR NAOOO.

Nah, I think it was a mix of both things. Scum got unlucky but town played good enough to take advantage of that bad moment.

I definitely have seen scum got unlucky but town failing to lynch correctly (wifom, supidity). Thats where the solid play by reck comes from.

[Amished]

But.. I win if I lynch you. It's a secondary win condition that sacrifices an innocent townie for a scum. Anyone who's anyone knows that 1:1 is a good deal. However, if I'm lynched, I take out half the remaining town, rounded up and then get replaced by a hated scum.

Vote: Anon

[VP Baltar]

Vote: Anon

Zombie vote from the graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave!