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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:27 am

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Wait a minute. Who all thinks that Mindgamer is town?

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XScorpion (2) - kyle99, SaintKerrigan
Looker (2) - XScorpion, Mindgamer
mykonian (1) - Light
SaintKerrigan (1) - mykonian
Light (1) - Looker

Not Voting (2) - danny135, DiscoRoboto

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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:31 am

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Looker wrote:Wait a minute. Who all thinks that Mindgamer is town?
I do, for now. Why do you ask?
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:36 am

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Because a: he know people will react on it, and based on these reactions he tries to find someone reacting weird
b: he knows the above, is concious about what he does, and is scum doing it.

OR
c: he talked his posting behavior and overall game strategy over with his scum buddy who accidently breadcrumbed it.


It's not far-fetched, there is no 'too strange to be true' or 'too ... to be ...'
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:38 am

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@StK: Just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one sniffing him/he wasn't getting a free pass like Danny/Disco.

@Disco: How clever do you think I am? Schizophrenic paranoia can really hurt your game.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:42 am

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How clever? I don't care how clever you are, even the smartest people can be idiots. A could-be-scum-tell is a could-be-scum-tell, even if it's stupid play.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:50 am

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Danny/Disco scumpair?
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:51 am

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Looker wrote:Danny/Disco scumpair?
Explain.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:55 am

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Elaborate please.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:56 am

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He's the only one that avoided remarking on my push for a Danny wagon and he hasn't done much the whole game other than sit back and watch us vote each other. ScumDisco has a pretty comfortable position right now. Nobody's noticing him.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:00 am

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That and his partner's being replaced so I can't vote him :(
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:01 am

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DiscoRoboto wrote:Because a: he know people will react on it, and based on these reactions he tries to find someone reacting weird
b: he knows the above, is concious about what he does, and is scum doing it.

OR
c: he talked his posting behavior and overall game strategy over with his scum buddy who accidently breadcrumbed it.


It's not far-fetched, there is no 'too strange to be true' or 'too ... to be ...'
What information do you have as town to make you choose for a theory that you admit to be unlikely (though not impossible)?

Seriously, you make no sense. I have a gut town read on you, but you act as if you have more information then you can have. And then you tunnel on it, denying all information that contradicts your current read. Please tell, why are you a towny?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:03 am

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And StK, that is your excuse, I know. It is the only hiding place.

It is also the only thing that doesn't make it an absolute tell.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:06 am

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Why would I comment on the Danny wagon when everything was already said? It's just a stupid thing to do, do you really need to hear that?
Also, nobody noticing me might just be because I'm playing this game correctly? I don't know, but people noticing you (because i.e. a danny wagon) is usually a bad thing.

I have never admitted or said to have 'chosen' the theory, I'm simply laying it on the table.
Why am I towny? I don't know, because I haven't really been scummy for as far as I can tell. If you have objections to that, please point em out.

I always act like I have more information than I actually have, at least I hear so from others.

The two of you moving in a group is duly noted.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:07 am

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mykonian wrote:And StK, that is your excuse, I know. It is the only hiding place.

It is also the only thing that doesn't make it an absolute tell.
So, you're simply going to deny all my responses as "excuses," eh? Tunneling much?
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:08 am

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Looker, why are you voting for Light?
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:41 am

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Because he accepted Mykonian's plans without considering its ramifications and later voted Mykonian due to some "you could've got meta on StK" silliness, which is untrue. As I've already stated, search is broken so there's really no way to get sufficient meta on anyone.

@Disco: Mykonian and I working as a team? I guess dreams really
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:41 am

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SaintKerrigan wrote:
mykonian wrote:And StK, that is your excuse, I know. It is the only hiding place.

It is also the only thing that doesn't make it an absolute tell.
So, you're simply going to deny all my responses as "excuses," eh? Tunneling much?
I have already admitted the tell not to be absolute. I think it counts enough against you to vote you. I show here I know its weaknesses.

But I know them of a lot of tells, and that doesn't mean I won't vote.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:48 am

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DiscoRoboto wrote:
I have never admitted or said to have 'chosen' the theory, I'm simply laying it on the table.

Why am I towny? I don't know, because I haven't really been scummy for as far as I can tell. If you have objections to that, please point em out.

I always act like I have more information than I actually have, at least I hear so from others.

The two of you moving in a group is duly noted.
Bolded: WOW. What a way to backtrack. Since when do you not have responsibility for what you post?

No disco, if it is too unlikely to be true (and see my post, it is), then you don't post it, because it adds nothing. This way you just add more suspicion around me, looker, or whoever
while it shouldn't be there
.

This is one reason why I very much dislike any "scumbuddy" argument made before we lynched scum. There is often little basis (since you always have a few steps that are unlikely), but they do add suspicion from the group to that player. It doesn't help to hunt scum.

Kyle, xscorp, get here and post.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:58 am

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DiscoRoboto wrote:The two of you moving in a group is duly noted.
this is what I mean. You are just trying to scare people.

why is this notable?

If one is scum, what does that make the other?
if one is town, what does that make the other?

This is no scumhunting, Disco. This is manipulating. Now, show me some scumhunting.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:02 am

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I never denied having responsibility, nice way to twist my words.

There is never anything too unlikely to be true. NEVER. Things can be 'far-fetched' but that doesn't make it less possible.

and about your comment regarding adding suspicion around people, just wow. Just... wow.
This way you just add more suspicion around me, looker, or whoever while it shouldn't be there.
It shouldn't be there? How subjective can it get?
If I can lay it on the table, people can judge for themselves if it should be there or not, that's nothing for you to judge.
Besides, how should it not be there? It's a thought, it really happened, there's no twisting (even if there was it should be there but more as a point against me rather then a point against you), so what's the problem here? Why should it not be open as a suggestion/option?
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:03 am

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Scaring people? Nigga please.

Tell me, myko, what am I manipulating? Besides, my case on you is very much scumhunting.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:11 am

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Well "nigga please" certainly scares me; I'm partially offended and partially terrified.

@Mindgamer: Why can't you see that your vote belongs on Kyle?!
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:15 am

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Kyle99
Looker, Light, and Mykonian are starting to look more town to me.
The two most suspect players are starting to look more town? That certainly needs an explanation.
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XScorpion is just coasting and doing almost no scumhunting.
Very hypocrite.
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A poly lovers game, as town.
then, I remember a game where I said that the above two had happened, and that I this time wouldn't try to mislynch looker, and seen that
I have no good memories of that
, I believe I was mislynched pretty quickly.

uhm, I probably
forget 1
.
So you remember one legit game with Looker. Awesome.
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Also, nobody noticing me might just be because I'm playing this game correctly? I don't know, but people noticing you (because i.e. a danny wagon) is usually a bad thing.
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No, no, no. You want people to notice you. A good townie is always on the lookout for scum, and you want other people to notice your finds. What could possibly be wrong with being noticed? That's how a scum thinks. Quite a big slip from you here, DiscoRoboto. Over 9000 scumpoints for you!
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Why am I towny? I don't know, because I haven't really been scummy for as far as I can tell.
Again you're thinking with the mindset of a scum. A townie is scumhunting, posting quality content et cetera. A townie does not care how he looks like, he cares about finding scum. But you are thinking that not doing scummy things makes you look like town. Huh? Seriously, when I'm playing a game where I'm town, like this game, I'm thinking 'how can I find that darn scum!'. Not: 'Have I been scummy this game?'.

Unvote. Vote: DiscoRoboto


Serious vote. You're thinking like a scum.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:30 am

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DiscoRoboto wrote:I never denied having responsibility, nice way to twist my words.

There is never anything too unlikely to be true. NEVER. Things can be 'far-fetched' but that doesn't make it less possible.

and about your comment regarding adding suspicion around people, just wow. Just... wow.
This way you just add more suspicion around me, looker, or whoever while it shouldn't be there.
It shouldn't be there? How subjective can it get?
If I can lay it on the table, people can judge for themselves if it should be there or not, that's nothing for you to judge.
Besides, how should it not be there? It's a thought, it really happened, there's no twisting (even if there was it should be there but more as a point against me rather then a point against you), so what's the problem here? Why should it not be open as a suggestion/option?
You want to play, disco? Lets see who can post the most shit about each other... And no, it is
your explanation
not what happened.

Then you prefer to post your explanation, letting the others out (until I posted them), while it is less likely, by far. When I call you on this, you fail to take responsibility for it. You just posted it. You didn't mean anything with it. Lol. In your words: wow, just... wow.

What are you hiding?
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:31 am

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No, no, no. You want people to notice you. A good townie is always on the lookout for scum, and you want other people to notice your finds. What could possibly be wrong with being noticed? That's how a scum thinks. Quite a big slip from you here, DiscoRoboto. Over 9000 scumpoints for you!
Once again you're pulling it out of context.

Sure I want people to notice my finds, but my finds is surely not a direct part of my actions, is it? It's a report after analyzing said actions and other peoples actions.
What's wrong with being noticed? Well, it does distract attention from other players. It's only logical for someone who got a Town role PM to not want attention diverted to him, right?
People paying attention to my finds is a whole different plane, and you know that. You're ignoring common sense to put me in a black light. Not paying attention means that your posts aren't being read? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH. If 'nobody pays attention to you' in the way I posted, it obviously means not paying attention to a persons scumminess because that attention is better used for other causes. Not implying that you should ignore a person because he's looking Town, I'm implying that scummy players deserve more attention.
Again you're thinking with the mindset of a scum. A townie is scumhunting, posting quality content et cetera. A townie does not care how he looks like, he cares about finding scum. But you are thinking that not doing scummy things makes you look like town. Huh? Seriously, when I'm playing a game where I'm town, like this game, I'm thinking 'how can I find that darn scum!'. Not: 'Have I been scummy this game?'.
Seriously now Mindgamer? Do you even read what you're posting?
If somebody asks me a question I answer it. Now you're pretending like I'm simply saying 'I care about how other people look at me'. No, I was answering a question.
Then again, Mindgamer, do you not care about how people look at you? You say you're a Townie (obviously) and that would mean lynching you is a mislynch, that ain't profitable for Town now, is it? Of course you don't try to look scummy, even as Town, as to prevent a mislynch. Besides, you are implying that my way of thinking was 'Have I been scummy this game?', but I don't ever recall having said that that's my way of thinking. Pulling things out of your ass much?

You're quite good at subtly pulling things out of context, Mindgamer.
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