Teleportation Mafia Universe ONE (MAFIA A WINS!)

[elvis_knits]

Day 2 Vote Count

CSL ( 3 ) popsofctown Hoopla Ellibereth
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 1 ) Rhinox
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 7 ) gayle elvis_knits CSL farside22 fishythefish evilsnail ojanen
Raskol ( 1 ) mykonian
Rhinox ( 0 )
Maelyn ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) Raskol Maelyn
Total Votes ( 14 )

With 14 alive, 8 needed to lynch.
Deadline: Feb 22nd 19:00 EST

CSL ace5993 - TOWN - POPS AND HOOPLA REPEATEDLY TRYING TO LYNCH THIS GUY

elvis_knits - TELEPORTER

evilsnail - LEAN TOWN

farside22 - TOWN

fishythefish LEAN TOWN

Hoopla flareonage - SCUM

gayle - LEAN TOWN

mykonian - NOT SURE, HIGH CHANCE OF BEING SCUM FOR OPPOSING POPSLYNCH

ojanen - LEAN TOWN

popsofctown - SCUM

Raskol - ?

Rhinox - ?

Ellibereth - U2 LEAN TOWN

Maelyn ? U2 LURKERSCUM

[farside22]

Thanks for the list EK.
I think I'm torn with raskol and rhinox. Both are almost invisible.
Rhinox was called town by pops and it could be a scum ploy to get a town lynched or scum buddies.
Raskol should have been replaced.

[Hoopla]

Quick everyone pile on Hoopla!

I can assure you that 'slip' came from not paying any attention to this game, rather than alignment knowledge. Slips in general unreliable, as town are just as likely to make daft comments that seem like informed knowledge. How many of you have actually caught scum from a scumslip?

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Unvote, vote: pops

[farside22]

How many of you have actually caught scum from a scumslip?

*raises hand*

And this one was obvious scum slip. As guess what you seemed informed on scum roles and how they work but not town.............so if your not "paying attention" why would you know scum could teleport them self?

[evilsnail]

Rhinox is probably town, on the basis of pops's behaviour.

[elvis_knits]

Bah, or maybe CSL really is the last scum, and pops and hoopla were bussing him? I don't know. CSL's softclaim is pretty scummy.

Scummiest:

pops
hoopla

myko
csl

I will leave it up to this awesome town to question the remaining players and sort this out with the new info we are generating. I think we are headed to a town win with a scumlynch today!

[Ojanen]

I think the general move from pops to CSL is funny and prob includes scum, this guy might be fakeclaiming but I guess we'll find out so let's lynch the guy he's been pushing?

[Ellibereth]

Unvote, Vote Pops

See you elvis
CSL will be duly destroyed.

[Ellibereth]

And I missed a page...he will not be duly destroyed.

[Hoopla]

How many of you have actually caught scum from a scumslip?

*raises hand*

And this one was obvious scum slip. As guess what you seemed informed on scum roles and how they work but not town.............so if your not "paying attention" why would you know scum could teleport them self?

I don't know how to explain my thought process, because it wasn't operating on all cylinders - but I think I was in the mindset that if pops is scum we're sending him away, so we get a win/win - we get a policy lynch on CSL too.

I understand why it looks bad, and all I can do is insist it was an honest mistake. Before speedlynching me tomorrow, at least let me live long enough to provide some reads and analysis with a scumflip, so my mislynch won't be a complete waste of a day. Thanks in advance!

[elvis_knits]

CSL is a weird case because he sort of softclaimed. Well, he mostly said he wanted to live through the night (like there was some reason he needed to live, like a night action??). But perhaps he didn't know what the hell he was even implying. It is my impression he is a bit dense. So it is possible he didn't mean to softclaim. However, when dgb and others said he is probably the teleporter, he didn't correct them or say ANYTHING. So... I don't know.

It is notable that pops wanted to policy lynch CSL as soon as csl replaced in. Would he do that to his scum buddy? I would say probably not, but I can't be sure.

[elvis_knits]

See you elvis

Goodbye! Good luck! Kill lots of scum!

[zorastermod]

Day 2 Final Vote Count

CSL ( 1 ) popsofctown
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 1 ) Rhinox
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )

popsofctown ( 9 ) gayle elvis_knits CSL farside22 fishythefish evilsnail ojanen Hoopla Ellibereth

Raskol ( 1 ) mykonian
Rhinox ( 0 )
Maelyn ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) Raskol Maelyn
Total Votes ( 14 )

popsofctown the Mafia A Goon was lynched

The Deadline for all night actions is Wednesday, February 24th at 10:35am EST. Any actions not in by this time will be counted as "no action"

[zorastermod]

Night 2 has ended.

elvis_knits the Town (1) Teleporter was killed

Day 3 Begins now. I've ended night a bit early as I have some things I need to make sure I do in real life, and better to start early than late. The deadline will still be set on the old time.

The Deadline is March 10th at 10:30 EST.

The next teleporter will be informed at the beginning of the next night.

[farside22]

vote: Hoopla

[mykonian]

There could be a benefit in that the bandwagon of Pops essentially formed twice. The slowness of the wagon at first gave scum enough time to bus.

Further, I believe CSL is bandwagonning anyway, and Pops would have been daring to ask for a policy lynch on his own buddy, because esspecially with CSL, it might actually have worked.

Day 2 Vote Count

CSL ( 1 ) popsofctown
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 1 ) evilsnail
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 1 ) Rhinox
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 7 ) gayle elvis_knits fishythefish Ellibereth farside22 CSL Hoopla
Raskol ( 1 ) mykonian
Rhinox ( 1 ) ojanen
Maelyn ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) Raskol Maelyn
Total Votes ( 14 )

With 14 alive, 8 needed to lynch.
Deadline: Feb 22nd 19:00 EST

Day 2 Final Vote Count

CSL ( 1 ) popsofctown
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 1 ) Rhinox
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )

popsofctown ( 9 ) gayle elvis_knits CSL farside22 fishythefish evilsnail ojanen Hoopla Ellibereth

Raskol ( 1 ) mykonian
Rhinox ( 0 )
Maelyn ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) Raskol Maelyn
Total Votes ( 14 )

popsofctown the Mafia A Goon was lynched

The Deadline for all night actions is Wednesday, February 24th at 10:35am EST. Any actions not in by this time will be counted as "no action"

Esspecially Hoopla, evilsnail, and ojanen should be in our attention, following this theory. Farside is less likely to be scum seen pops flip.

And now I have to reread.

[farside22]

myko do I need to remind you of hoopla's little slip.

*shrug*

Well, I'm okay with sending pops away.

Unvote, vote: CSL

pops can't send himself away.

Well, you know, if he is scum.

[farside22]

Lets not forget this little gem as well.

How many of you have actually caught scum from a scumslip?

*raises hand*

And this one was obvious scum slip. As guess what you seemed informed on scum roles and how they work but not town.............so if your not "paying attention" why would you know scum could teleport them self?

I don't know how to explain my thought process, because it wasn't operating on all cylinders - but I think I was in the mindset that if pops is scum we're sending him away, so we get a win/win - we get a policy lynch on CSL too.

I understand why it looks bad, and all I can do is insist it was an honest mistake. Before speedlynching me tomorrow, at least let me live long enough to provide some reads and analysis with a scumflip, so my mislynch won't be a complete waste of a day. Thanks in advance!

[mykonian]

that has been talked over already. You wanted me to repeat it?

But when I have a pile of information this big that I have to investigate, I'm not going to focus on what just happened only.

I want to do a reread, with knowing that pops is scum. I am sure it will make our job easier.

[Hoopla]

Reading through some pops-posts to piece together some ideas! See you all soon.

[mykonian]

I find that to be incredibly useless, though the easy way of doing it.

Scum is often, esspecially closer to the lynch, very concious about what they are saying. But if you look at the reactions to pops made by others, you might find some people more likely town, and some people more likely scum.

[Hoopla]

I find that to be incredibly useless, though the easy way of doing it.

Scum is often, esspecially closer to the lynch, very concious about what they are saying. But if you look at the reactions to pops made by others, you might find some people more likely town, and some people more likely scum.

I'll actually most likely resort to some sort of vote analysis.

[farside22]

based on some post from pops I will note the following that struck me.

I think I'm leading towards the elvis side of the spectrum atm. Raskol seems genuinely cranky in a townie way. Elvis just isn't all that impressive.

Raskol maybe scum with pops. I noticed that pops jumped on the bw that was all town so far.
DGB, ABR, EK and myself.

My gut says Raskol is town, I wonder if he comes off that way in every game he plays though. A lot of the points made against him, to my head though, are logical. E_k participation and involvement still feels a little low this game. Yeah, that's not a powerful case E_k, but I'm not voting on it either.

Gut read with no reason on raskol and pushing EK over him. Leads to more likely scum buddies.

I think CSL might require a policy lynch. He posts very briefly for the entirety of any games he plays

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CSL is town looking at this post. This is pure scum trying to dictate policy lynch of another player. Also again seeing pops jump on other bw's that have all been town so far I believe CSL town

- I agree with EK about publishing townreads. pops says we want to help the other universe with their pulling – no, we really, really don’t. That seems like an unlikely thought for town – it clearly hurts us if they pull well.

What? Quote it. I do not recall saying that.

Er... can't find it. I'll try and work out what I meant later.

That is, try to hold me off with a promise to "figure out" what went through your head as you made a post like a day ago so you can wait and see if I get distracted and forget you uber-misrepped me?

unvote, vote: FishytheFish

Just a weird interaction in retrospect. Something just nagging at me readin this that is hard to explain.

Rhinox: Rhinox seems like earnest scumhunting every post he makes. (of course I remember you). One of the highest probtowns for me. He comes in here regularly and makes accurate and original observations.

Says this about Rhinox but tried to make a case on myself when I have done the same leads me to believe Rhinox scum possiblities.

Evilsnails case is meh. If anything farside puts herself in a position to go any direction she wants more than evilsnail does.

Another scum possiblities. Like I said pops dismissed only a few cases that were put forth.

Also I note myko didn't want a pops lynch and didn't see pops as scum but I'm on the fence with myko.

[Fishythefish]

I intend to do a thorough reread of pops's interactions tonight.

Having said that, I really think Hoopla's slip late yesterday betrays that she knew pops's alignment. I also think this reads as fairly false, given Hoopla's play up to this point (ie. no scumhunting):

I understand why it looks bad, and all I can do is insist it was an honest mistake. Before speedlynching me tomorrow, at least let me live long enough to provide some reads and analysis with a scumflip, so my mislynch won't be a complete waste of a day. Thanks in advance!

- I agree with EK about publishing townreads. pops says we want to help the other universe with their pulling – no, we really, really don’t. That seems like an unlikely thought for town – it clearly hurts us if they pull well.

What? Quote it. I do not recall saying that.

Er... can't find it. I'll try and work out what I meant later.

That is, try to hold me off with a promise to "figure out" what went through your head as you made a post like a day ago so you can wait and see if I get distracted and forget you uber-misrepped me?

unvote, vote: FishytheFish

It's worth bearing in mind the outcome - I then read back and found I had switched "pops" and "EK" (at least, I think it was EK) in the post we were arguing about. pops then unvoted. I don't know how that affects your opinion of this.

[mykonian]

Strategy talk is distracting us from scumhunting

Exactly. Let's make jokes and arbitrary votes. Scumhunting will do itself.

unvote, vote: Flareonage

For complaining about the level of scumhunting whilst not scumhunting, a sin number 43.

Exactly. Let's make jokes and arbitrary votes. Scumhunting will do itself.

unvote, vote: Flareonage

For complaining about the level of scumhunting whilst not scumhunting, a sin number 43.

Unvote, vote: popsofctown

For complaining about me complaining about the level of scumhunting and the fact that I'm not scumhunting while you yourself are not scumhunting. Sin number 89

This, series of posts feels a lot like distancing to me. Flare got replaced. by Hoopla.

I'm on page 13 by now, and the problem is that pops never got any serious attention then. You can hardly find something, apart from a very weak tell like the above. I'll try to continue later.