mykonian wrote:Everything in blue is not related to hunting scum, and can be skipped, if you are short on time.
farside22 wrote:what are your scumtells when you are scum?
Oh come on this question sucks why should I share my scum tells to hurt me in other games?
I can already hear the people ready to lynch me for the above but telling people your scum tells does hurt you for other games.
idk I range with being quiet, lurky to talkative depending on the game. I do bus my scum partner on many occasions I can think of. I think I jump on cases just with a me too kind of post at times if I feel lost in a game and I don't know where else to go. I notice I don't try to motivate a game and I purposly miss things that are scum tells from my partner if I think they are safe from a lynch or being voted on.
Obviously my scum tell is on a wide range because acting the same in a game means people know you to be scum and use that meta against you.
Although I find your next post nice (you agree with me, finally, someone!), this one just gives me the creeps. If you would be town, there would be nothing to worry about. You could just tell your scumtells. Because acting antitown as towny to protect your scumplay is not done, and the way I know you, you also wouldn't lurk or do other scummy things to protect your scumplay. Then we get a series of scumtells that I know you would avoid if possible (jumping on a wagon with a "me too") and that you are often bussing seems to be a save thing to say as scum. Further, you keep it very general. I can't see someone who loves the game this much doing this as town.
FoS Farside
. But pluspoints for actually answering the question as first player.
Later we get the discussion where farside thinks she should be called townie, just as Fishy based on her thinking that those answers are identical. I disagree.
mykonian wrote:Bolded is mine. And take your time replying to it, I should be sleeping. I'll take a look in the morning.
farside22 wrote:mykonian
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myko talks about scumhunting will win the game but talks about stragdy of the game right after.
are you accusing me of not scumhunting, or even active lurking. Please tell.
interesting:
Evilsnail: I am not going to answer my own question if nobody wants the answer
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a few people answered this question why refuse to answer yourself?
Posting something that isn't going to be read is a waste of everyones time, and just fills the thread
Well you did answer in this post actually so the comment leaves me in a lot of pondering
myko why did you vote from DGB to raskol and with such a hypocritcal statement as this:
You completely forgot what you did with fishy, and went for the next target, with a less then spectacular case. Where are you going to run next?
Farside, please tell my what is hyporcritical about this. Hint: check the argument. There is something wrong, and it was talked about in the defense.
I love how myko says he didn't want to read the ou but clearly is.
I don't think I ever said that. I did say I don't expect everyone to do so, simply because it would be hard to keep up. As you know, from time to time I have way too much time to waste, so I hope it won't be a problem for me.
myko why would you switch you vote to CSL?
I would vote him for mindlessly bandwagonning and then hopping of as soon as it seems to fail, with an enigmatic: it has served it's purpose
The case on DGB is terrible. Speaking from what you posted as a case I can point to a time DGB said scum day talked and she was town. It's a null tell.
Lots of defending from myko
and I didn't find a case that was really well thought out excpet raskol case.
both are easily explained. I almost never make a post simply to restate the arguments against someone. A "case" like that you won't often find with me, only when I feel I really need to convince people (close to a deadline, or something like that). My arguments are often divided over multiple posts, posted as I find them. You'll find that I have had opinions about far more people then only Raskol, something you try to insinuate here.
And I would like you to quote what you thought my case on DGB. Because I don't believe I have posted one.
Now I read through this, I'm sorry farside, but it are OMGUS-like feelings that made my gut read on you this way. The case is subjective as hell, the blue points are points made by others already. Both blue points are also no points against me, as it is both times a miscommunication (I did answer, and it wasn't hypocritical because I returned my vote to Raskol, and switched later one time his name with Rhinox).
All the red sentences are most likely to trigger my Scum-alarm. There are strawmans (only picking out my reaction against DGB's daytalk argument, and calling that my case on DGB), misinterpretations (the myko will not read the OU), and several points that are accusing me of active lurking, which is plain insane. But will all this, Farside never FoS's me, votes me, or even calls me scummy. It is just one big manipulative post that shows how bad I am, but Farside never commits herself to it (this is good english, I hope).
Later posts I leave out (the argument about the first post, I made a short version there)
short version of the above
Most of my scum feelings came from that post, and yes, that probably is because I very much dislike the case on me. But because farside had had no problems with me before, and this were her first points, I saw that as farside beginning to doubt me, while she later confirms this was a full case on me.
My iso 84 is where I say I thought farside had me as town.
mykonian wrote:farside22 wrote:I remember one (last thing with farside), when you said that made me scum. I had quoted a post there where I pointed out what was wrong, and why. I don't think I would do that as scum, aggressively investigating Farside, as I know her a bit. It is kind of foolish to attack farside, since you will get a response. It is her nature.
You talking about the so called case saying I was following people and was full of crap and I called you on and then backtracked and tried to almost subtely use the too townie idea without saying it?
You make it a so called case: because I didn't. I explained my reasons why you moved up my scumlist.
It wasn't full of crap, you didn't reply to half the points, and the FACT that you directly copied two questions in that post are showing I was in fact right. I haven't backtracked, since those points couldn't and werent explained. I have absolutely no idea how I have subtely used the too townie idea there. I don't think you too towny, so that is most likely you trying to read manipulation in my posts. (seen the subtility, you had to search for it)
So this post full of strong language perfectly hides that I had valid points against you.
And here my feelings get confirmed again. I have good points against her (the points taken from Evil and Rhinox), which got strawmanned (I believe intentionally) by farside to being direct copies of the text.
That way she can say I'm backtracking. Further, the language is really over the top. This is basically screaming popular words (Backtracking, too townie, full of crap) without admitting she indeed did use Rhinox and Evils points. iso 105 is about this, with also points about the first quote of this post.
There is a but. A pretty large one, I think. Farside is one of the few that is active, lately
Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.
