Mafia 109 - A Glitch in time - Game Over!

[Maemuki]

Wait. Nik isn't lynched, then? *relieved*

[Yosarian2]

I do love a bandwagon.

Vote: Nikanor

Note to SC: Please don't unvote without discovering something awesome. Also, I changed our forum skin to mafTigers.

So, what changed from here to here?

Unvote

Nikanor is town. This wagon should be ashamed of itself.

Also, wtf is this?

[quote="A clergyman with a hoop"[/quote]
Who wants to make a deal? This is an exclusive offer - the first person who agrees to it, gets it. I'm offering a 50/50 bet to control my vote for the entirity of Day 1 (by the way it's going now, it won't be very long). However, if you lose the bet, I get to control your vote. [/quote]

Anyway:

Meh, if Nik flips scum I'll gladly take the next lynch. I mean, scum do often buddy up with townies to set up mislynches, and I'm one of those townies, but I can't fault you for using WIFOMish logic. Oh wait.

Are you that sure Nik is town here, Parama? Why? Based on what, exactally? THis whole post is bizzare.

And I see Drip agrees with me on this as well. Good, good.

And I'll take the lynch because you'll lynch me anyways regardless of my alignment.

Why would anyone ever say "I'll take the lynch"? That's just a bizzare thing to say, Para.

IF Nikanor is buddying up to someone (and the infraction would be pretty minor), wouldn't be to me, rather than to Nikanor?

Well, Nik was defending Para there. He might have been buddying up to para, or he might have been defending a scumbuddy there. I don't see how he's buddying up to you.

Not lynching CSL like they should be.
Don't even try to misrep me by saying I'm trying to switch the target.

And this post is really weird, especally the second part where he preemtivly denies "trying to switch the target" and saying that's a "misrep". What the heck does that even mean? If you think CSL is scummier then anyone else, then you should be pushing for a CSL lynch; if that's a different target then the town was trying to lynch, that's not a bad thing. The only way this post makes sense is if you are trying to "switch the target" away from someone who you know is scum.

Anyway, I'm still only to page 5 in reading, heh, but this post is long enough.

[Drippereth]

We should form a club of players that will NK CSL on sight as top priority whenever we have a killing role: mafia, vig, SK, daykill, etc.

I'm in the "Kill CSL ASAP club" if you didn't notice.
Also, since it seems day is in fact not over,

Vote: CSL

Why do you keep insisting on lynching zwet's little brother? Be patient, chances are he'll be killed tonight. If not, we'll see what our prospects are.

[Drippereth]

IF Nikanor is buddying up to someone (and the infraction would be pretty minor), wouldn't be to me, rather than to Nikanor?

I don't even think Nikanor was buddying to me, but he sure wasn't buddying to Para. He said: "Are you serious when you say Parama is scum, Drip?" so it sounded like he wanted to verify if I had rolebased info. I did say that if he was buddying up to someone, it would be more me, than Parama. But I don't even think he's buddying at all.

But I do think Nikanor is scum after all. He didn't bother claiming ("bunch of idiots, you just lynched the DOCTOR!!!" or "No big deal I was just vanilla") and he didn't express the natural outrage expected: "ALL the scum is on my wagon!!!"

On that basis I think Nikanor is indeed scum.

[Yosarian2]

I see why you guys think Nik is scum.

Vote: camn.

I've never played with KMD before, but I hear he's a good player. If he hasn't found scum by now, I'd be surprised.

^ following an RVS vote for a stupid reason

Are you serious when you say Parama is scum, Drip?

^ potential maf defending potential buddy

It's because Drip twice said that she wanted Parama lynched, Anon. Saying it once is random, saying it twice means to me that she has something.

^ more of the same

I'm not saying Nik isn't scum. I'm saying CSL is a better lynch.

If you don't think Nik is town, then that what the heck did all that stuff about how "if Nik flips scum you'll take the lynch" mean?

Anyways, I still thought this was RVS. Guess it's not.

unvote

Holy hell. ARe you saying you knowingly put someone to lynch -1 with no reason at all?

I mean, seriously, WTF?

It makes even less sense if you look at his earlier posts:

Game started while I was at school, obv.

Nikanor is at L-2. Nice quickwagon there.

@ Nikanor's bandwagon: Why do you think Nik's scum?

First he claims Nik is at lynch -2 (when he's not), demands a reason, and attacks the wagon for being a "quickwagon".

Then, later:

Vote: Nikanor

I don't like him. I think he's scum.

L-1, by the way.

He knowingly puts Nik at lynch -1 saying "I think he's scum"

Now, he's unvoting Nik, and saying he thought everything up to this point was random? That dosn't even make sense.

I'm really think CSL looks really scummy here. Possibly scum with Nik, although really he looks bad either way here.

Parama, I find it amusing that you of all people would be the one endorsing a policy lynch.

This is the first thing Drip's said all game I don't agree with, but it does bug me. Drip, have you been reading CSL's posts? How could you call a vote against CSL here a "policy vote"?

First vote of the game = me voting CSL.
I don't bus in RVS.

This is probably the worst WIFOM defense I've ever seen, lol.

Good thing you're a vig then.

FOS:Ythan

for that comment.

Actually, screw it. You all can lynch me tomorrow if you want.

Vote: Nikanor

Unless of course, he's scum, in which you all should thank me.

Yeah, CSL is scum.

Is hammering without a claim acceptable?

No, of course not.

During Sign-ups, me and KMD came to an agreement that we wouldn't kill each other NIGHT ONE, if either of us ended up scum.
I tell you this so you know, if I die tonight.. KMD is NOT auto-scum. We have a truce, of sorts. In case any of you follow history.

Lol. (shakes head) Not going to put much weight into that, especially since I don't think KMD would be allowed by site rules to go along with a pre-game agreement if doing so hurt his chances to win.

Ok, all caught up now.

Unvote:Nik

for the moment. He's still suspicious as hell, but CSL is worse.

Vote:CSL

[Yosarian2]

But I do think Nikanor is scum after all. He didn't bother claiming ("bunch of idiots, you just lynched the DOCTOR!!!" or "No big deal I was just vanilla") and he didn't express the natural outrage expected: "ALL the scum is on my wagon!!!"

On that basis I think Nikanor is indeed scum.

He could be. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on CSL right now, though.

[Drippereth]

Actually, screw it. You all can lynch me tomorrow if you want.

Vote: Nikanor

Unless of course, he's scum, in which you all should thank me.

Yeah, CSL is scum.

Is he scum with Nikanor? That's my working hypothesis at the moment. Today, I'd rather lynch Nikanor. Reason being, as explained a few minutes ago, Nikanor's lack of claim and lack of outrage is extremely scummy. Nearly at the PROOF level.

CSL is merely a bubo that we can drain at night. Failing that, we can lynch him tomorrow. He needs to die real bad, but wagons that have policy-lynch components, or generally "easy" lynches are more difficult to analyse later in game, hence my preference for the "harder" Nikanor wagon over the "easy" CSL wagon (yes I know Nikanor has more votes but if 3-4 players started to push hard this would change rapidly).

[Haylen]

Weaboo has been prodded.

[Nikanor]

WHO THE HELL SAID I WAS LYNCHED?

"Are you serious when you say Parama is scum, Drip?" so it sounded like he wanted to verify if I had rolebased info.

Again, I meant nothing of the sort.
Let's put it this way: If I were scum, I'd have to know if there was a night zero because I'd have to kill somebody.

Today, I'd rather lynch Nikanor. Reason being, as explained a few minutes ago, Nikanor's lack of claim and lack of outrage is extremely scummy. Nearly at the PROOF level.

Why bother claiming? I was dead anyway. And as I said before, I'm simply dumbfounded at the people on my wagon. Most are just nodding their heads and agreeing, and probably don't even know why you want to lynch me.

"ALL the scum is on my wagon!!!"

That's just stupid. I KNOW that all of the people on my wagon can't be scum. So instead of wigging out and screaming at the top of my lungs like a paranoid freak all the way to the gallows, I decided to give some actual analysis for you guys to look into for day two.

And on that note,

Vote: MaB.

[Drippereth]

I'm not really buying that, and also, I note that you are still not claiming. You are, I believe at L-2. That's claiming range. You aren't given much analysis, that's not true, and you had to be asked. Your new MaB vote is unexplained.

Contradition:

You say "who the hell said I was lynched?" but then later you say "Why bother claiming? I was dead anyway."

[Nikanor]

You and others said I was lynched, and I didn't bother double checking the votes, so I thought I was lynched.
I'm not claiming because I'm at L-3 (Yos unvoted) and CSL is already on the wagon, meaning I won't be quickhammered at L-2. If three more people show that they want to lynch me, I'll claim.
I'm not given much analysis? Can YOU analyse a bunch of people who jump on your wagon for ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON? Because I can't.
And my vote on MaB is not unexplained. I said that I wanted MaB lynched, and since it turns out I'm not dead yet I'm going to try to get MaB lynched today.

[A clergyman with a hoop]

vote yosarian

hope you agree hoops. I read much from him about csl being scummy rather than a poor player or a liability. Not having the balls to say policy lynch when it's a policy lynch trips the scumdar.

[A clergyman with a hoop]

Aldo, I'm going to come up
with whimsical and possibly irritating nicknames for you, my erstwhile partner. So enjoy that, hoop-a-loop.

[Drippereth]

vote yosarian

hope you agree hoops. I read much from him about csl being scummy rather than a poor player or a liability. Not having the balls to say policy lynch when it's a policy lynch trips the scumdar.

Why would the scum pursue a policy lynch when they have a NK? Just askin' Looking for an easy lynch? No, the Nikanor wagon is a good one. They could ride that one easily. And if Nikanor is town, and the scum wants to pursue a side wagon for town cred when he flips town, is CSL really a good choice, when they'll be dragged into policy lynch discussions?

[CSL]

I screwed up. Or did I?

Drippereth, I'm starting to think you're scum because you fail at votecount reads.

[Maemuki]

I screwed up. Or did I?

Drippereth, I'm starting to think you're scum because you fail at votecount reads.

I read that it was the hammer too, CSL. Not only me. Hoops/SC did too. Worst. Case. Ever. Even you said that it was the hammer, the hypocrisy.

Happiness~! CSL doesn't care about this game!

(PS: If I sound annoyed, it's because I want to freaking strangle Tewi)

[CSL]

About 3-4 people said it was gonna be the hammer, so I voted.

Yes, I do care about this game.

(P.S. Who the hell is Tewi?)

[Maemuki]

About 3-4 people said it was gonna be the hammer, so I voted.

Yes, I do care about this game.

(P.S. Who the hell is Tewi?)

Why?

Seriously?

(PS: Tewi is the midboss of stage 5 on Imperishable Night. Yeah, stage 5, laugh, then see this, it's a shame that the Stage 5 theme is so pretty, too...)

[CSL]

Do I have to answer that?

Yeah.

(PS.: Stage 5 on anything is hard as hell, believe me, so I aint gonna laugh)

[Maemuki]

Do I have to answer that?

Yeah.

(PS.: Stage 5 on anything is hard as hell, believe me, so I aint gonna laugh)

Yup, or I'll consider you scum even more than what I'm doing now.

*raises eyebrow*

(PS: I'm glad that you share my views. The stage 5 theme is so damn catchy though...)

[CSL]

Read the last few pages.

*raises two eyebrows*

(PS: Wow. Um, maybe we should continue this "PS" discussion elsewhere. Pref MSN or PM.)

[Maemuki]

Read the last few pages.

*raises two eyebrows*

(PS: Wow. Um, maybe we should continue this "PS" discussion elsewhere. Pref MSN or PM.)

You have to say it, or else you were voting for a case that you did not understand.

*orly face*

[CSL]

Here is where the vc fail was, right after Zombie voted.

*two raised eyebrows, an orly face, and a toungue flip*

[Maemuki]

Here is where the vc fail was, right after Zombie voted.

*two raised eyebrows, an orly face, and a toungue flip*

She corrected herself one minute after that - what's your point? And I still see no logical reasoning.

[Ythan]

Unless of course, he's scum, in which you all should thank me.

Not if you're bussing.

During Sign-ups, me and KMD came to an agreement that we wouldn't kill each other NIGHT ONE, if either of us ended up scum.

Outside influence?