R-SURVIVAL -- Game Over

[ortolan]

I fail to see how SOG putting people in the safezone is relevant. If he did put someone he would have put scum in the safezone; but it's not going to do anything anyway as the only remaining ways of dying are lynching and nightkilling (barring some stupid situation like the remaining scum player somehow having multiple daykills, which is just stupid. Even then, again, SOG would have told his scumbuddy who he put in the safezone- and he would have no reason to have put townies in there in the first place).

[CryMeARiver]

I fail to see how SOG putting people in the safezone is relevant. If he did put someone he would have put scum in the safezone; but it's not going to do anything anyway as the only remaining ways of dying are lynching and nightkilling (barring some stupid situation like the remaining scum player somehow having multiple daykills, which is just stupid. Even then, again, SOG would have told his scumbuddy who he put in the safezone- and he would have no reason to have put townies in there in the first place).

Yeah, I didn't really get that post by Anon either...it was kind of random and out of place

[Anon]

I missed a "dont" in the last sentence. I think that the previous sentence is clear enough to express my opinion regarding what SOG said in his claim. (re: ortolan link). Anyways here is how the post should have been:

I think it's safe to say SOG didn't GAT anyone, that would just be idiotic on his part.

Need to reread the game again, but I want to go and look at how SOG started the last day, he must have known he was going to be lynched since he couldn't shoot, so I want to see what changed from day three I think to day four. Another thing to look at is whose kill makes the most sense for scum to make.

This is a good start.

@Crymeariver: I wouldnt believe a single thing scum said about something, so ortolan is right there. Also, I think its very unlikely, if not impossible, that SoG did indeed put somebody in the safezone. So I

dont

think something should come up of analyzing what he said.

[CryMeARiver]

I missed a "dont" in the last sentence. I think that the previous sentence is clear enough to express my opinion regarding what SOG said in his claim. (re: ortolan link). Anyways here is how the post should have been:

I think it's safe to say SOG didn't GAT anyone, that would just be idiotic on his part.

Need to reread the game again, but I want to go and look at how SOG started the last day, he must have known he was going to be lynched since he couldn't shoot, so I want to see what changed from day three I think to day four. Another thing to look at is whose kill makes the most sense for scum to make.

This is a good start.

@Crymeariver: I wouldnt believe a single thing scum said about something, so ortolan is right there. Also, I think its very unlikely, if not impossible, that SoG did indeed put somebody in the safezone. So I

dont

think something should come up of analyzing what he said.

that makes more sense...but why is the post by charter saying "SoG didn't GAT anyone..." a "good start"...Also, what Ortolan link?

[ortolan]

tell me you love me, why did you leave me, all alone?

[Anon]

but why is the post by charter saying "SoG didn't GAT anyone..." a "good start".

A good start was to do this:

Need to reread the game again, but I want to go and look at how SOG started the last day, he must have known he was going to be lynched since he couldn't shoot, so I want to see what changed from day three I think to day four. Another thing to look at is whose kill makes the most sense for scum to make.

Also, what Ortolan link?

Im referring to your case about Ortolan being scum taking into account what SOG said in his claim. As I said, I really dont think we can take into account what SOG said, rendering what he said about ortolan as null as it can get.

[Anon]

tell me you love me, why did you leave me, all alone?

wat

[ortolan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mu8MrCR5pQ

[CryMeARiver]

I think it's safe to say SOG didn't GAT anyone, that would just be idiotic on his part.

Need to reread the game again, but I want to go and look at how SOG started the last day, he must have known he was going to be lynched since he couldn't shoot, so I want to see what changed from day three I think to day four. Another thing to look at is whose kill makes the most sense for scum to make.

Oh, ok Anon...I guess I'll answer that last question, even though it seems rather scummy to ask...

I'm guessing your referring to if we vote a no lynch...That depends who the scum is...if its Ortolan (which I think it is), he would probably vote Charter just because Anon and I are the ones who have thought he was scum and he wouldn't want to make it obvious...

If you or Anon was scum, you'd probably leave me alive since I have town reads on both of you as of now...You'd probably leave Ortolan alive since he would attack me right away...so you'd probably kill each other...

Also, what was with that last post Orto?

[CryMeARiver]

I've hereby eliminated Anon from my possible scumlist due to these posts...

What exactly are we doing here?

Just vote me for Gatekeeper and stop trying to stall for your scumbuddies.

What exactly are we doing here?

Just vote me for Gatekeeper and stop trying to stall for your scumbuddies.

Im not stalling anything, Im analyzing the possible outcomes of this election.

Did you find anything of interest?

Yeah, I think that the gatekeeper being scum is slightly good for town.
First, a gatekeeper being scum means that player is not in the safezone and can be dayvigged.
Second, it brings pressure to the gatekeeper to pick carefully their choices, providing town with information, instead of having a lurkerscum, for example.
...
I think there should be a way to break the game with the ability to dayvig and to get confirmed with that ability. I think we should have two suspects for day and that instead of a claim, a suspected player should be forced to dayvig the other suspected player. Or something like that, Im still thinking on it.

sounds like bad idea mafia

Two confirmed mafia (nacho and Cobalt) were accusing Anon on Day 1 (Page 2 and 4)...Mafia has no reason to bus this early and this in my mind clears Anon...now there are 2 left

[CryMeARiver]

Alright, Charter is now cleared as well in my mind...

I think Cobalt

and Ellibereth and HH

are scum.

I think bird and

SOG are town.

Cobalt because there is no scumhunting, just drivel about the GAT.

Again, he would have no reason to bus this early...but the killer...

DAYKILL COBALT

Cobalt didn't have that much suspicion on him at this point and it was only DAY 1! This by itself pretty much clears Charter as he would have no reason to decrease his scum numbers on day 1...bussing is one thing, but an outright daykill is totally different...

Found this and thought it was humorous:

charter is certainly town

, chamber is pretty much certainly town also

If Anon is scum then semioldguy isn't

So if SoG is scum then Anon isn't??? Ok, that leaves you...

Also, from Anon:

i like
4) chamber
8) charter
12) semioldguy

meh
1) Ortolan
6) yabbaguy

So the consensus seems to be clear that Charter is town, I've explained why Anon is town in my mind...that leaves Ortolan

Vote: Ortolan

[ortolan]

don't you think it might be preferable to nolynch?

[CryMeARiver]

don't you think it might be preferable to nolynch?

I would be willing to either do that or lynch you...

[ortolan]

you have done a decent job at arguing for Anon/charter being town. Now you just need to convince me/everyone else why you aren't scum yourself. Do you think you can defend DoS' day one play?

[CryMeARiver]

I think it's safe to say SOG didn't GAT anyone, that would just be idiotic on his part.

Need to reread the game again, but I want to go and look at how SOG started the last day, he must have known he was going to be lynched since he couldn't shoot, so I want to see what changed from day three I think to day four. Another thing to look at is whose kill makes the most sense for scum to make.

Oh, ok Anon...I guess I'll answer that last question, even though it seems rather scummy to ask...

I'm guessing your referring to if we vote a no lynch...That depends who the scum is...if its Ortolan (which I think it is), he would probably vote

Anon just because if it was down to 3 left, Charter would have a better chance of voting me off than Anon as Anon is starting to like my posts...he would obviously leave me since I'm his #1 scumspect and if he killed me it would be too obvious since I'm driving to kill him

If you or Anon was scum, you'd probably leave me alive since I have town reads on both of you as of now...You'd probably leave Ortolan alive since he would attack me right away...so you'd probably kill each other...

Also, what was with that last post Orto?

I'd like to edit this...bolded

[CryMeARiver]

you have done a decent job at arguing for Anon/charter being town. Now you just need to convince me/everyone else why you aren't scum yourself. Do you think you can defend DoS' day one play?

Do you agree that Anon and Charter are most likely town?

[ortolan]

you have done a decent job at arguing for Anon/charter being town. Now you just need to convince me/everyone else why you aren't scum yourself. Do you think you can defend DoS' day one play?

Do you agree that Anon and Charter are most likely town?

I wasn't completely sold on you being scum, but your readiness to vote in LYOL coupled with the fact I just remembered you were insisting on lynching town-me instead of obv-scum SOG yesterday so that you could endgame means I think you are probably most likely to be scum, yes.

[ortolan]

The other thing is that you went to the effort of rereading the other players, you haven't really reread me. I would find it hard calling myself scum after reading page 12 of this game personally.

[ortolan]

Anon you should definitely read page 12 of the game if you have any intention of voting me. I don't want to wake up and find the game lost tomorrow by abject town incompetence. Night.

[CryMeARiver]

The other thing is that you went to the effort of rereading the other players, you haven't really reread me. I would find it hard calling myself scum after reading page 12 of this game personally.

You are next...
But I did notice how you failed to answer my question Bill Belichick...do you agree that charter and Anon are most likely town?

[ortolan]

I fail to see what the purpose of the question is unless you're trying to see whether you could potentially mislynch charter or Anon with my assistance or whether your best bet is continuing to try to mislynch me (yes I haven't gone to bed yet).

[CryMeARiver]

Anon you should definitely read page 12 of the game if you have any intention of voting me. I don't want to wake up and find the game lost tomorrow by abject town incompetence. Night.

Whoa...you are completely right...page 12 is important as it indicates Charter possibly being scum...

Charter is now off my town list and back into uncertainty

Unvote

[ortolan]

I can see this endgame is going to be painful

[CryMeARiver]

I can see this endgame is going to be painful

Indeed...that page just really opened my eyes and now my gut is screaming that you're are town and Charter is scum...I'm thinking No Lynch would be best as night would reveal something and we're just in the same situation as now...

Vote: No Lynch

[ortolan]

I agree, I don't really have a problem with a no lynch but I'd like to see what the others have to say.