Mini 897 - OpenSource Mafia - Game over!!

[Snow_Bunny]

Ah, this is just too weird.

My last two results were Pom and UK innocent. And now, I'm officially leaning to believe I'm naive cop.

So, for now, I'm leaning towards SSK or SP.

[SocioPath]

Well what we have from yesterday:

SSK who was 99% sure of his sanity and Vaya's guilt, but never pushed that until it mattered.
(I.E. saving a mislynch for later.)
Imagine if SSK and Vaya both made it to LYLO.
SSK would go 'oh but remember my guilty? lets go with him.'



And then there is Pom, who went 'oh gee who should I vote for' and then SSK said Vaya AND VOTED VAYA IN THE SAME POST.

Meaning Pom would have to HAVE READ THE POST, UNDERSTOOD THE VOTE, AND THEN CONTINUE TO PROCEED TO VOTE FOR VAYA.

Its not like it was a "OOPS SIMULTANEOUS VOTING ACCIDENTAL HAMMER"


Both are scummy as hell in my eyes, but taking everything into account, SSK is the one that is based off of something that he himself said was "99%" certain.

So either that 1% screwed him over...
...or he tried gambiting and lying through his teeth cause claimed cops rarely see the lynch.

Not to mention he tried claiming his certainly on Vaya as a breadcrumb to millerness.

So he has even claimed that he will already come up as guilty to investigations.


...which might mean you aren't naive at all, and Pom/UK actually are innocent.

I think everything that I said previously on SSK ring so much more true now:

SSK needs to die.

Parroting what I said, (which is essentially a more confirming parrot of someone else.) SSK's current vote is in no way, shape, or form...helpful.
Vote is on Pom, originally to create pressure, then had a back and forth with Pom.
When questioned about scummiest people, Pom wasn't even on the list. In fact, he just half-assedly through names out there. (UK for being dodgy?)
Also is 99% certain of role-based information on someone else, and yet doesn't pursue it in the least. Essentially, I originally make a case saying Vaya being scum, SSK says 'yeah Socio is right', and then moves on never thinking about it again.

Bastard game, etc.

So...you think your role...will confirm ANYTHING...let alone TWO TOWN...in a BASTARD GAME?

Cause the one thing that everyone knows about bastard games is how confirmable everything is...

Why is SSK scum? You never did answer this.

In addition to what I said about him at the end of the day yesterday, I thought he response to you was rather construed:

Kay. Winblows hacker for Linux. I can use a script to see someone's alignment. Once I have used that script,which I did yesterday,I turn have a red flag set on my computer and thusly investigate Guilty. This is why I am sure Vaya is guilty, it would be the most bastardish thing for a mod to do for my result not to be sane.

This was after your:

Wish I could tell you something.


SSK, fullclaim.

I got no result on him.

I shall claim myself

I'm a sanity checker. Obviously I was hoping to get a sane or insane result on SSK. Since I got neither, and in fact, no result at all, I can tell you nothing about Vaya OR SSK. Hence why I want a fullclaim. I could go for a Vaya lynch.

Though reading what just happened, an Alma lynch is also acceptable.

But yeah, I'd like SSK to claim precisely why Vaya was "guilty"

It looked like he thought you implied 'gotcha scum', and he responded with 'oh well when I use my role I'll go guilty thats why'.

It sounded like he was trying to explain your result on him because he thought your 'no result' was a guilty at the time.

Again, I'm a sanity CHECKER. I was planning on checking myself after SSK if things went awry. I don't think it was too much of a stretch to trust my results, had I got any.

But,
If your result was SSK is sane, then Vaya would be scum.
If your result was SSK is insane, Vaya would be town.

In neither scenario do you determine SSK's alignment.

So I find your statement of:

if I succeeded I'd likely be making two confirmed town

as inaccurate.

[MafiaSSK]

Why are you rehashing an old case that I've already responded to?

[Pomegranate]

Could you provide a link or a post number to show where you responded?

[SocioPath]

The silence is golden.

[MafiaSSK]

Fine, maybe I haven't. First though, shouldn't we massclaim?

[Pomegranate]

Hasn't everyone claimed but SP? (IIRC)

[SocioPath]

But see Pom, thats the pinnacle of the beauty of his response.

First he says, "Oh right I didn't actually respond to anything."

Then he says, "Oh well before I going to make any attempts what-so-ever to defend myself, shouldn't we do something else first thats not about me?"

Then he says, "That thing we can do first, lets mass claim, and by mass claim, I mean SP claim."

So much said for less than 10 words spoken.


I am a CrApple Developer.

I can attempt to change alignments of players.

Balls back in your court, SSK.
How next are you going to stall?

[Snow_Bunny]

SSK is just being to dodgy.

Vote: SSK

[Pomegranate]

Vote: MafiaSSK

. ANSWER QUESTIONS, SSK. DO IT. NOW. FOLLOW MY PSYCHIC POWERS. OR WE SHALL LYNCH YOU.

That is L-1.

[SocioPath]

Dodgy is right.

Nothing he has said has put any doubt in my mind that he is scum.

I'd REEEEEEALLY like to see what he has to say about...lets see...EVERYTHING.

[SocioPath]

Actually.
Screw it.
There is literally nothing he can say at this point to convince me otherwise that he is scum.
Everything he has done all game is just terrible.
And at the rate he has been 'responding' and posting...

...I have a feeling we would be waiting forever for single line after single line.

Vote: MafiaSSK

[SlySly]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 3

SocioPath

- 0 -

Pomegranate

- 0 -

MafiaSSK

- 3 - Snow_Bunny, Pomegranate, SocioPath

Snow_Bunny

- 0 -

Players not voting: MafiaSSK

MafiaSSK has been lynched.

[SlySly]

The town, ridden with suspicion, forces MafiaSSK into a corner insisting to see the documents in his billfold. MafiaSSK tries to bribe everyone with pirated keys of MicroSuck Turd XP Edition. Unmoved by the offer, the town tackles MafiaSSK and pry his billfold from the back pocket of his Dockers. It is revealed that

MafiaSSK -

Guilty

has a security badge for and is an employee of the Evil Empire, MicroSuck. The town each take turns taking swipes on MafiaSSK's jugular with his access badge.

The votes are now cleared and it is Night 4. Get your actions in. 48 hour max.

[SlySly]

The Evil Empire feels victory by total domination within its grasp. The final remaining MicroSuck agent looks over the two options. "Should I kill the claimed doc or should I take down the claimed alignment changer? Decisions, decisions, decisions!!! This is harder than when we were deciding between stealing DOS or stealing PC-DOS!!! We made the right choice since that schmuck offed himself and we never had to worry about a lawsuit!!!" The agent, due to running the inferior Winblows os, can't make an informed, reasonable decision so decides to flip a coin for it. Heads, Snow dies. Tails, Socio dies. The agent flips the silver dollar high into the air and waits for the landing....It's Heads! The agent picks the silver dollar up and stuffs it into Snow_Bunny's throat, cutting off her air supply.

Snow_Bunny -

Innocent

having been tied to the chair, kicks and struggles but finally succumbs to the lack of air.

Pomegranate, anticipating victory, smiles and turns to walk away. As she turns, she sees SocioPath smiling with his CrApple CrapBook opened with a virtual voodoo doll in the form of Pomegranate on his screen. SocioPath winks at her and presses the delete key. The SerialPortKiller,

SocioPath -

Neutral

lets out a cry of victory as

Pomegranate -

Guilty

has been deleted.

SocioPath gets a 3rd party victory! Congrats!!!! Thanks to everyone for playing!!!!

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[SocioPath]

UK was too illogical to live.

[Iecerint]

Congratulations!

I don't know why you didn't just claim vig yesterday, though. You were obviously responsible for the deletion kills, and neither of them was particularly anti-town given rhetoric.

[SocioPath]

Because not a single person made any sort of comment or notice of the multiple kills.

Because more than half the time I see a vig claim, it leads to an SK...especially if I'm the one that caused them to claim.

All in all, it wasn't needed.
Nor would I have claimed that anyways.

The amount of suspicion on me was clse to none.

And my scum hunting was decent enough. ;o

Also as a fail safe...first night the reason for no kill...I changed my own alignment.
I figure this would do 2 things:
Either show me that my alignment was unalterable.
Or make me win with the town.

I didn't know for sure either way.
But at the rate I was going there was no way I could lose.
(i.e. A town win would = my win.)

JUST GOES TO SHOW:
My scum hunting is top notch REGARDLESS OF SIDE.
Whether town, mafia, or SK.
I always find scum with a massive percentage in my favor.

And if I'm not finding scum, I'm finding other roles.

[AlmasterGM]

SP was scum AGAIN?

Seriously, he is 3 for 3 on being scum in games I've played with him.

Anyway, fun game, congrats to all. Thanks to SlySly for the modding and setup.

[SlySly]

The Setup

Mafia (win mafia condition, flip guilty):
1. Pomegranate - Microsuck IT Manager - Mafia Godfather *, Immune to investigation (innocent on all)
2. Iecerint - Microsuck Lead Developer - Mafia Weak RB ^ (weak unknown to player, only RB's if cop target is mafia) shows as innocent to insane, shows guilty to sane
3. MafiaSSK - Microsuck Developer - Mafia Goon #, shows as innocent to insane, shows guilty to sane

Town (win with town win condition, flip not guilty except for Death Miller):
4. tubby216 - Winblows Network Administrator - Insane Cop @ - Can attempt to script an alignment switch for investigated, does not know sanity
5. Snow_Bunny - Linux Network Administrator - Sane Cop @ - Can attempt to script an alignment switch for investigated, does not know sanity
6. Faraday -Google Network Administrator - Paranoid Cop (all guilty, except God Father) % - does not know sanity

7. Glork - Winblows Loyalist - Death Miller *, (shows guilty to all, flips guilty, wins with town and revealed as town in post game) cannot reveal the "Death" part of Miller-ness on day 1.

8. AlmasterGM - Winblows User - Miller #, (shows as innocent to insane, shows guilty to paranoid & sane, flips town), cannot reveal Miller-ness on day 1.
9. Fishythefish - CrApple User - Miller ^ (shows as innocent to insane, shows guilty to paranoid & sane, flips town), cannot reveal Miller-ness on day 1.

10. Vaya - Suse User - Doc (can protect), shows as guilty to insane, shows innocent to sane
11. UncertainKitty - Ubuntu User - Psychiatrist (can analyze sanity, can script sanity change), Can attempt to script a sanity switch for investigated, shows as guilty to insane, shows innocent to sane

Anti-town (win SK condition, flips neutral):
12. SocioPath - CrApple Developer - Serial Port Killer, (shows as guilty to insane & paranoid, shows innocent to sane)(has option to kill or run alignment script)(semi-immune to investigation)

Complete alignment & sanity change methods and one unknown, available skill of one player are not going to be exposed as they were never used and I intend to run a large version of this game and want some mystery to remain as to how those things work.

[Iecerint]

I would've gone after you had I been town in that circumstance. Well, maybe if SSK hadn't been there. ^^;

[UncertainKitten]

My scum hunting is top notch REGARDLESS OF SIDE.

Bullshit. You called me scum were wrong as hell.

I always find scum with a massive percentage in my favor.

This I guess is decent.

Good game SlySly, a little too complicated for me to really get a handle on, or I would have been more useful. At least I didn't get lynched.

And yes,

I was innocent all game

[SocioPath]

SP was scum AGAIN?

Seriously, he is 3 for 3 on being scum in games I've played with him.

And the first game I would have likely won as well if not for a fatal mod error causing the OP cop fiasco.
(As an SK as well.)

[AlmasterGM]

SP was scum AGAIN?

Seriously, he is 3 for 3 on being scum in games I've played with him.

And the first game I would have likely won as well if not for a fatal mod error causing the OP cop fiasco.
(As an SK as well.)

Indeed. You are on permanent radar from now on.

Oh yeah, and I TOLD YOU Pom was scum.

[SocioPath]

My scum hunting is top notch REGARDLESS OF SIDE.

Bullshit. You called me scum were wrong as hell.

Like I said, you were too illogical to live.
Your Occam's razor case.
The deal with SSK.
So many to list.

You ignored given logic until I shoved it down your throat enough for you to agree with me.
And you did eventually cave on virtually all points.

You interactions with Iec were very questionable as well...to the point that the night I submitted the Iec kill, I went "If he is guilty, I'm going to pursue UK until one of us stops breathing.

As for the 'mindfuck'ing...sometimes a mindfuck is just a mindfuck...AND WHO DOESN'T LIKE A GOOD ONE OF THOSE FROM TIME TO TIME.