Pick Your Power II - Looks like the wine is gone (SCUM WIN)

[bouncy.bouncy]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 10

Bouncy.Bouncy

- 8 - Fate, wolframnhart, RedCoyote, StrangerCoug, Faraday, Farside, Rayfrost, The1fifi - (L-2)

Pomegranate

- 2 - Socrates, Porkens - (L-8)

Rayfrost

- 1 - Hoopla - (L-9)

The1fifi

- 1 - Bouncy.Bouncy - (L-9)

wolframnhart

- 2 - Jack, Ellibereth - (L-8)

Players not voting: curiouskarmadog, Devotress, DocPotter, Pomegranate, TonyMontana

bouncy, claim your result.

unless you are claiming you got VT on me?

Tracker

[Fate]

1. Oh ok, I know X player is vanilla. Oh look, the rare situation in which they claimed and I'm still alive has occurred. He's fakeclaiming! He's a vanilla!

2. Hm I investigated a Cop/Tracker/Watcher, and they are pushing for X's lynch. I think I'll follow on with my own reasoning, since I know that person's role

3. Hm I investigated a Vig and town has died for the past three nights, I wonder if should claim what I know to get them lynched?

Which situations are more valuable, bouncy?

[RayFrost]

I am, in fact, a tracker.

want my target, etc?

[Fate]

bouncy, claim your result.

unless you are claiming you got VT on me?

Tracker

Knew it. Yay breadcrumbing... (i.e., Ray Frost you really haven't been power in the games listed in your wiki often...)

[Fate]

I am, in fact, a tracker.

want my target, etc?

Depends on who you tracked

[RayFrost]

Hahahahahaha.

I know.

the breadcrumb led to one of vig, watcher, or tracker.

[Fate]

Well I don't think you'll die tonight, but they might have an empowerer or something, so might as well claim. (Guesses: "went nowhere" result)

[RayFrost]

porkens remained at home, sleeping peacefully.

[bouncy.bouncy]

1. Oh ok, I know X player is vanilla. Oh look, the rare situation in which they claimed and I'm still alive has occurred. He's fakeclaiming! He's a vanilla!

2. Hm I investigated a Cop/Tracker/Watcher, and they are pushing for X's lynch. I think I'll follow on with my own reasoning, since I know that person's role

3. Hm I investigated a Vig and town has died for the past three nights, I wonder if should claim what I know to get them lynched?

Which situations are more valuable, bouncy?

As for 2. maybe that person is scum, so why would I follow them?
As for 3. maybe they are town and guessed wrong for the past three nights.

Anyways I've never played PYP before, I've never been Cop before, and I've never read a Role Cop strategy guide. So maybe you can understand me not knowing exactly what to do D1.

[RayFrost]

1. Oh ok, I know X player is vanilla. Oh look, the rare situation in which they claimed and I'm still alive has occurred. He's fakeclaiming! He's a vanilla!

2. Hm I investigated a Cop/Tracker/Watcher, and they are pushing for X's lynch. I think I'll follow on with my own reasoning, since I know that person's role

3. Hm I investigated a Vig and town has died for the past three nights, I wonder if should claim what I know to get them lynched?

Which situations are more valuable, bouncy?

As for 2. maybe that person is scum, so why would I follow them?
As for 3. maybe they are town and guessed wrong for the past three nights.

Anyways I've never played PYP before, I've never been Cop before, and I've never read a Role Cop strategy guide. So maybe you can understand me not knowing exactly what to do D1, D2, D3, or any other day.

fixed.

[farside22]

Bouncy did indeed unvote fate but voted for 1fif. So why not check fif?

cool story
now vote fifi

cool post
now vote cobalt please

Unvote Cobalt

Vote Fefi

sorry -.- like the 5th time this happens last 2 days

Cobalt and fifi are distancing, with fifi bandwagoning. I don't see why else fifi would beg for Cobalt to be lynched and then suddenly switch her vote to the person who now has the most votes

unvote Fate
vote The1fif

[bouncy.bouncy]

1. Oh ok, I know X player is vanilla. Oh look, the rare situation in which they claimed and I'm still alive has occurred. He's fakeclaiming! He's a vanilla!

2. Hm I investigated a Cop/Tracker/Watcher, and they are pushing for X's lynch. I think I'll follow on with my own reasoning, since I know that person's role

3. Hm I investigated a Vig and town has died for the past three nights, I wonder if should claim what I know to get them lynched?

Which situations are more valuable, bouncy?

As for 2. maybe that person is scum, so why would I follow them?
As for 3. maybe they are town and guessed wrong for the past three nights.

Anyways I've never played PYP before, I've never been Cop before, and I've never read a Role Cop strategy guide. So maybe you can understand me not knowing exactly what to do D1, D2, D3, or any other day.

fixed.

No. With night actions and roleclaims come legitimate reasons to investigate people.

[Fate]

As for 2. maybe that person is scum, so why would I follow them?
As for 3. maybe they are town and guessed wrong for the past three nights

Ok scumlogic now, this should be easier to counter:
Version2.

2. If you follow a cop onto a lynch, and the person flips incorrectly? I wonder what you infer?
3. If a vig has been bad at guessing, are they still a pro-town force? Shouldn't one inform town who the bad vig is so town can direct the kills?

As for not knowing what to do, we don't accept the newbcard here in PYP town. You're #3,

PICK

a role you know how to play, or one that requires no playing at all (Bulletproof, etc.)

Not much more we can get out of today. Even Pom will come in and just buss bouncy, so no more point waiting for her catch-up post anymore either.

[bouncy.bouncy]

Bouncy did indeed unvote fate but voted for 1fif. So why not check fif?

Why check fifi?

[Fate]

No. With night actions and roleclaims come legitimate reasons to investigate people.

I don't know why I'm still debating with you, maybe just to make sure the rest of town is 100% convinced.

Me saying something "no townie would ever say" is

not

a legitimate reason to investigate me?

Same goes for your f1f1 vote (which farside pointed out, I had forgotten about that)

[Fate]

I retract what I said about bouncy looking town. This very much sounds like his scum partner is the role cop. The scum partner had a reason for picking ray frost, but bouncy doesn't know what it is-->so he claims to have used random.org.

Why didn't you vote bouncy?

[bouncy.bouncy]

2. If you follow a cop onto a lynch, and the person flips incorrectly? I wonder what you infer?

Cop, yeah, but tracker or watcher? Maybe they caught somebody doing the wrong thing.

3. If a vig has been bad at guessing, are they still a pro-town force? Shouldn't one inform town who the bad vig is so town can direct the kills?

We don't need to know who the vig is to be able to direct them.

You're #3,

PICK

a role you know how to play, or one that requires no playing at all (Bulletproof, etc.)

Point taken, but I still think it's a benefit to deny the mafia the role and I still think I will/would've made up for not being a genius N1 with my play afterwards.

[farside22]

Bouncy did indeed unvote fate but voted for 1fif. So why not check fif?

Why check fifi?

Why do random.org?
At least it's someone you have some suspicion on. Not some random oh look who I just happened to pick reason.

[Jack]

Why didn't you vote bouncy?

I want to see what people have to say before I put him at L-1.

[farside22]

Did I miss something from Ray from here or you talking about earlier when he voted for me fate?

unvote, vote: bouncy

your explanation is good enough.

[bouncy.bouncy]

Me saying something "no townie would ever say" is

not

a legitimate reason to investigate me?

Same goes for your f1f1 vote (which farside pointed out, I had forgotten about that)

First of all, I really fucked up what you said. I was convinced that you were scum and not just suspicious.

As for investigating people I suspect: why? I'm not a regular Cop; I'm a Role Cop.

[RayFrost]

...

so obv scum.

[Fate]

Did I miss something from Ray from here or you talking about earlier when he voted for me fate?

unvote, vote: bouncy

your explanation is good enough.

I believe he is referring to your explanation of the rolefishing you were accused of.

Jack we've heard enough. What do you think?

[bouncy.bouncy]

Bouncy did indeed unvote fate but voted for 1fif. So why not check fif?

Why check fifi?

Why do random.org?
At least it's someone you have some suspicion on. Not some random oh look who I just happened to pick reason.

Once again, tell me WHY knowing the role of somebody I suspect matters any more than knowing the role of a random person. Maybe I'm just a retard, but I don't understand why I should start with people I suspect.

[Fate]

Bouncy if you were allowed to live, who would you investigate and why?