Pick Your Power II - Looks like the wine is gone (SCUM WIN)

[farside22]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 10

Bouncy.Bouncy

- 5 - Fate, wolframnhart, RedCoyote, StrangerCoug, Faraday - (L-5)

Pomegranate

- 3 - Socrates, Porkens, Farside - (L-7)

Rayfrost

- 2 - Hoopla, Ellibereth - (L-8)

The1fifi

- 1 - Bouncy.Bouncy - (L-9)

wolframnhart

- 1 - Jack - (L-9)

Players not voting: curiouskarmadog, Devotress, DocPotter, Pomegranate, Rayfrost, The1fifi, TonyMontana

Bullshit.

Your vote stays on me all day, and you don't even investigate me? If you thought I was scum, wouldn't you want to see if I had a scum role to back it up?

Hoopla's theory sounds about right. I could definitely see him using a lower down's role in order to protect himself (the better PR).

You also ADMIT that your role is next to useless in PYP. Why the hell did you choose it with #3 slot?

And then you ADMIT you randomly choose your night target.

Hoopla, you unvote after saying "lol town is afraid to lynch power roles." Look a single number just claimed a BS power role, and you let it slide? Definitely looking worse and worse.

FOS

Devo, Farside, Hoopla, for unvoting.

Actaully this is a very valid point about bouncy I didn't think about.
He randomly picks Ray for no reason but stated suspicion on fate throughout the day. So why not check out fate.

[Fate]

Hmmm. Yeah I figured Ray Frost shouldn't claim. Still waiting for Bouncy

[Ellibereth]

I don't get why.

[Ellibereth]

EBWOP: I don't get why bouncy shouldn't reveal.

[RayFrost]

I don't get why.

why what?

[RayFrost]

EBWOP: I don't get why bouncy shouldn't reveal.

Because I'd die tonight.

In fact, I think I'm dying tonight anyway.

Great.

Scum, NK me, it'd help the town more than my super 1337 awesome informationzzz

[The1fifi]

@Ray : serious? a wagon is about to form on you and thats your post?

[Fate]

Actually if bouncy is scum like I think, then Frost revealing will be giving town information that scum have.

You probably are dead tonight Ray. Might as well claim and hope a doctor protects your or something...

[Ellibereth]

If we're revealing bouncy should give his result first, no?

[The1fifi]

yes, i agree with elli. we need bouncy's results before ray's claim

[farside22]

If there is a town doc they should just protect ray right now. I have a feeling I already know where this claim is going.

unvote:
vote: bouncy

answers are required at this point.

Ray I suggest unless you have some really good info just don't claim. I may have to hope for a town JK for the night but a doc would be much better right about now.

[Fate]

Are you suggesting bouncy fakeclaimed Role cop? Now that would take some balls.
Might as well get a read on Frost and have him claim first.

[farside22]

Are you suggesting bouncy fakeclaimed Role cop? Now that would take some balls.
Might as well get a read on Frost and have him claim first.

No. Your right if bouncy is scum then scum has the info already.

[Fate]

Jailkeeper isn't in this game http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 38&start=0

I agree we bouncy looks worse at this point, and should answer all the questions, but here's how I see it:

1. Bouncy's scum.
1a. Scum already knows RF's role
1b. Scum fakeclaimed Role Cop to out the real role cop, and try to get RF to claim

2. Bouncy's town.
2a. Frost reveals his information before he gets NK'd, doc'd, etc.
2b. Frost doesn't reveal, leaves scum guessing.

I think 1b is the most unlikely situation, as bouncy didn't look

so

bad that he would need to resort to last minute measures like that.

I think bouncy is scum more than town, pending his answers that I probably won't be satisfied with, which is why I lean on 1a.

Though 2b is a better situation for town, 1a is more likely at this point, imo.

[RayFrost]

Eeeeh, my info isn't super awesome.

It's just a role that I've had before.

I was intent on doing better with it this game... >.<

[Fate]

*Wiki's Ray Frost*

Hmmmm. I think I know what you are now, don't see why scum would be that. Unless you are

that

in which case... No, I'm pretty sure you're the first one.

[farside22]

curiousity makes me ask this but I just saw this role was possibly in the game:
Neighborizer wrote:
Each night you may send me two names. These two players may then communicate outside the thread. You may send your own name as one of the names.

Has anyone chatted with anyone outside the game yet? If so did you get any info or feel for the person you chatted with.

[Ellibereth]

curiousity makes me ask this but I just saw this role was possibly in the game:
Neighborizer wrote:
Each night you may send me two names. These two players may then communicate outside the thread. You may send your own name as one of the names.

Has anyone chatted with anyone outside the game yet? If so did you get any info or feel for the person you chatted with.

Blatant rolefishing says what?

[Fate]

Bad rolefishing, farside.

If someone was the neighborizer, they would connect themselves with another player. If they revealed themselves in the thread, the neigborizer (Most likely town, but I could see scum messing around with this role as well) would be outed.

[Fate]

Blatant rolefishing says what?

I'm starting to like you >_>'

[farside22]

curiousity makes me ask this but I just saw this role was possibly in the game:
Neighborizer wrote:
Each night you may send me two names. These two players may then communicate outside the thread. You may send your own name as one of the names.

Has anyone chatted with anyone outside the game yet? If so did you get any info or feel for the person you chatted with.

Blatant rolefishing says what?

Not really if that role is in play I find talking to another player outside the game gives more information then multiple people chatting all at once.
If your town you grill the person you chat with. You find out their thoughts and feelings on things. It's actually a very usful tool and information to the town.
Besides it's not that I"m asking the person who could have this role to claim. I'm asking if anyone chatted outside the game and their feel on that player. The neighbor is not necessarily doing the chatting.

[RayFrost]

The neighborizer should totally target me.

srsly, tho.

rolefishing is rolefishing

vote: farside

[Fate]

Rolefishing is worse than roleouting?

Shouldn't you be on the bouncy wagon, Ray?

[farside22]

The neighborizer should totally target me.

srsly, tho.

rolefishing is rolefishing

vote: farside

How is it role fishing? I'm not asking for the person who is the neighbor to claim. Sure everyone knows the role is in the game, but if 2 people already got targeted then 2 people already know the role to be in the game and chatted.

[Ellibereth]

Errr no.
A neighborizer would almost definitely have targetted themself and someone else. :/