Mini 927: Alabama Correctional Facility - OVER

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Grimmy needs to use names instead of numbers. ;P

Shove:
UncertainKitten 1
Minineko 2
Ellibereth 3
Jahudo 4
SpyreX 5
Max 6
farside22 7
HackerHuck 8
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 9
Cobalt 10
pwnman 11
Grimmy 12

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I just spent a great deal of time trying to find out my wincon then in the rules it cleared it up when I read that there are no serial killers. Unless I'm another third party role.

Shove farside: 10

Wat.

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How did it saying "no Sk's" in the rules clear it up then?

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Random sucks.

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Shove:
UncertainKitten 4
Minineko 3
Ellibereth 1
Jahudo 5
SpyreX 2
Max 12
farside22 6
HackerHuck 7
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 8
Cobalt 9
pwnman 11
Grimmy 10

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I see posts fulls of numbers. Oh dear god...
Reading.

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Jah: I don't like random number generators. My second shove's 12 spot was 100% serious.

Anywayz, Hacker, how is asking Cobalt about a blatantly fake daykill scumhunting?

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Farside...You know I get chatty a lot, at least more than a little...
Max and Cobalt = Town.

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Farside...You know I get chatty a lot, at least more than a little...
Max and Cobalt = Town.

I can see why max would be town, but why cobalt?

Grimmy 9-6

From my experience Cobaltscum is much more serious than Cobalttown.
(Don't ask for links, most of my games with him are ongoing with his flips out).

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Max's whole win condition thingymajig looks genuine. He's town.

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Shove:
UncertainKitten 7
Minineko 12
Ellibereth 1
Jahudo 6
SpyreX 5
Max 2
farside22 8
HackerHuck 9
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 4
Cobalt 3
pwnman 11
Grimmy 10

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IMO people shouldn't be worried about the whole shoving thing. When we decide on our lynch it won't be hard to get them to the bottom the list...I don't get all the concern.

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Max's whole win condition thingymajig looks genuine. He's town.

If it's genuine it has no bearing on his alignment, because he didn't know his alignment when he made the decision to post about it - therefore that decision cannot be alignment-influenced. Is there something I'm missing here?

I think only town would have made the statement he did. Gut town read.

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Pwnman is also posting in other places other than here. I at least have'nt seen Minne post at all.

Shove:
UncertainKitten 7
Minineko 11
Ellibereth 1
Jahudo 6
SpyreX 5
Max 2
farside22 8
HackerHuck 9
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 4
Cobalt 3
pwnman 12
Grimmy 10

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^^^ Hey guyz! I think we got one!

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^^^ Hey guyz we got two!

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UK's past town posts looks like they're coming from town. Why don't you help me get rid of our penguin and second kitty?

TOWN
Max
Cobalt
UK

SCUM
pwnman
Neko

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EBWOP: Past two* posts

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Yeah, it doesn't mean nothing. It means loads. And don't worry, that's not half of it.

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Yeah, it doesn't mean nothing. It means loads. And don't worry, that's not half of it.

Care to explain your reasoning?

Not really. Only a blind man wouldn't be able to see "Scum" painted across you. Hell, he would probably be able to smell it from afar!

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If there is no reasoning then you make no sense.

Uh...there is evidence. I'm just not telling you. I enjoying toying with caught scum you see.

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^^^ Fail.

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It still probably counts as a quote.

Oddly enough, there's nothing in the rules about quoting your PM. Maybe it's not fail?

He's still scummy as hell.
And he calls that "proof" he's town.

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Pwnman, can you respond to post 152?

He also paraphrased your comment on me. Or if it wasn't yours, it was someone elses.

I'm not much liking Mega Pimp and SpyreX on the last couple of pages. Cobalt and

pwnman seem OK to me

The bolded is a typo right?

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It still probably counts as a quote.

Oddly enough, there's nothing in the rules about quoting your PM. Maybe it's not fail?

He's still scummy as hell.
And he calls that "proof" he's town.

vote: Eli

Anyone who looked at pwnman's comment with his claim and calling it scum doesn't have the same PM me thinks.

Oh, it's certainly not proof he's town. I'm assuming DGB gave falseclaims to the scum. And "proving you are town" with a role PM quote does feel desperate.

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Cobalt can we have reasons on your shove? I'm pretty sure RSS is over.

I claimed because elibereth was really over me with no evidence and I guess I really didn't like that so I decided to claim...Not much risk anyway since I'm a VT.

I didn't copy, but I didn't realize it was that close to someone else's, but it happened a shrt while before I shoved so...

BS. Die.

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I didn't copy, but I didn't realize it was that close to someone else's, but it happened a shrt while before I shoved so...

Did everyone see this? Pwnman is claiming he DID NOT COPY JAHUDO when it's A BLATANT COPY.

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Pwnman, can you respond to post 152?

He also paraphrased your comment on me. Or if it wasn't yours, it was someone elses.

I'm not much liking Mega Pimp and SpyreX on the last couple of pages. Cobalt and pwnman seem OK to me

^^^ Ridiculously Scummy post now.
Who would say that pwnman looked "OK" when he was acting irrational and absolutely ridiculous? Oh yeah, that's right! Scum, who would know he was town.

Reshoving.

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Shove:
UncertainKitten 4
Minineko 10
Ellibereth 1
Jahudo 6
SpyreX 5
Max 2
farside22 8
HackerHuck 11
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 7
Cobalt 3
Grimmy 9

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Ellibereth, you wanted to damn Hucker no matter WHAT he said. If pwn had flipped scum you'd accuse him of being a scumbuddy.

Eh what? Where did you get that from?

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Eh what? Where did you get that from?

The way you said that Hucker was scum because he knew pwn was town.

Nono, where did you get that I would think Hacker was scum if pman was scum.
I said that Hacker is scum because pman is town.

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Pwnman, can you respond to post 152?

He also paraphrased your comment on me. Or if it wasn't yours, it was someone elses.

I'm not much liking Mega Pimp and SpyreX on the last couple of pages. Cobalt and pwnman seem OK to me

^^^ Ridiculously Scummy post now.
Who would say that pwnman looked "OK" when he was acting irrational and absolutely ridiculous? Oh yeah, that's right! Scum, who would know he was town.

Reshoving.

^^^ Here right?
Bleh, I don't see it. If pwnman flipped scum I would be thinking that his buddies would be bussing by then, not defending.
Whatevs.

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Pwnman, can you respond to post 152?

He also paraphrased your comment on me. Or if it wasn't yours, it was someone elses.

I'm not much liking Mega Pimp and SpyreX on the last couple of pages. Cobalt and pwnman seem OK to me

^^^ Ridiculously Scummy post now.
Who would say that pwnman looked "OK" when he was acting irrational and absolutely ridiculous? Oh yeah, that's right! Scum, who would know he was town.

Reshoving.

^^^ Ridiculously Scummy post now.
Who would say that pwnman was scum without a second thought when he claimed? Oh yeah, that's right! Scum, who would know he was town, but wouldn't recognize anything from his claim.

LIES AND PROPOGANDA
I called him Scum before he claimed! Also, the Elli-didn't-recognize argument is complete crap. Note How I started calling max town after this post: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 74#2119374.

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Jahudo's probably Hacker's scum buddy.
His last post was wiiiieeeerrrrrrddddddd.
Pwnman was acting scummy, NO EXPLANATION NECESSARY. I also hate explaining things in general, but when it's as obvious as that...
Cobalt's so obvtown to me it hurts. How many of you guys know his meta?

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NOT CONTENT
I didn't recognize farside for several seconds. Old avatar better.

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Shove:
UncertainKitten 4
Minineko 7
Ellibereth 1
Jahudo 10
SpyreX 6
Max 2
farside22 5
HackerHuck 11
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 9
Cobalt 3
Grimmy 8

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What is all this inversion stuff? Can't people just post the lists from highest town read to highest scum read?

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What is all this inversion stuff? Can't people just post the lists from highest town read to highest scum read?

We're not going to make it easier for your partners to figure out who to nightkill.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Die scum.

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What's this we? You have a mouse in your pocket?

Actually, was this talk of inverting anywhere? Or did both of you just happen to do it around the same time?

I brought it up in 177 when I first started doing it. Jahudo didn't mention it before 261 I don't believe.

It's not a complete coincidence we posted at the same time though, cool as that would be. Inverting of course requires an up-to-date shove count, so posting an inverted shove list right after DGB provides a shove count is most logical, and that's exactly what both of us did.

Hacker: Is your shove list in some order other than towniest-to-scummiest?

Shove:
UncertainKitten 6
Minineko 1
Ellibereth 8
Jahudo 5
SpyreX 10
Max 9
farside22 7
HackerHuck 2
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 3
Cobalt 11
Grimmy 4

Look at the question to Hacker, then look at SAMP's list....
Hacker, Jahudo, SAMP scumteam is getting called NOW.

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Minneko moving to first to make sure Hacker gets lynched.

Shove:
UncertainKitten 5
Minineko 1
Ellibereth 2
Jahudo 10
SpyreX 7
Max 3
farside22 6
HackerHuck 11
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 9
Cobalt 4
Grimmy 8

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Look at the question to Hacker, then look at SAMP's list....

...and then look at my past several million posts where I state my list is inverted, not town-to-scum, and come to the conclusion that it makes sense for me to question someone high on my list.

FoS

for leaving that part out.

Inverted lists are stupid.
Also, your list is NOT towniest-scummiest, you should be the LAST PERSON to criticize hacker on that aspect.

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Hello people, who is the scum?

Hacker

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And his buddies are Jahudo and SAMP.

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Oh, you're right. Nevermind me then. >.<
Inverted lists are still stupid.

Slicey: No time/too lazy to explain right now.

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KLINK!
Ok, before we get to anything, I'm not 100% sure on the voting mechanics for today. We each start with one Nutriloaf, and we can chuck it at someone.
CRASH!
Then we lost the nutriloaf, right? And we can't throw again unless someone throws one at us, and we can only throw them 3 times total. Or do I have it totally wrong?
PWANG!
One last thing we have to sort out is how we're going to communicate tomorrow with the License Plate Post-Restrictionmajig.

I'll reread later.

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I think we should use psuedo-bolded votes and keep track of themselves. And once the town comes to a decision we just pellet whoever it is with out nutriloaves.

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Spyrex is looking even more town now.
Top suspects still SAMP and Jahudo. 360 looks terrible.

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Spyrex is looking even more town now.
Top suspects still SAMP and Jahudo. 360 looks terrible.

ACK GAK GARK!
I just realized I forgot to post with My PR. Damn it.
BAM-BAM BAM BAM BAM
Did anyone else get a PR? I'm high on drugs right now so onomota-whatevers are the name of the day.
BEAUGH

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BZZT BZZT
Meh, I thought that UK was town. No meta there though. AYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYAAAAA!
SAMP's entire 360 just felt so off to me. Like how he's declaring that he's going to tunnel on Cobalt. His hacker towntell. Refusing to recognize there were totally legit scumtells on Hacker yesterday. Stuff like that, the whole thing just felt off.
BUKKIDA BUKKIDA
I agree with you on Jahudo though.

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SAMP is still scum. And flailing.
BAP-KRAK KIK HIT

ANNOYING TANGENT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SCUMHUNTING.
With the chucking nutriloaves, at each other. I think we should just treat this likew e each only have one vote, then we stat in bold, as Vote: Name. Then we toos our nutriloaf TO SOMEONE ELSE WE TRUST, then that person throws it to Another person we trust, and then they chuck it a the original guy being voted.
Or there's a better way and I'm making it unecessarily complicated.
BIZZZT
Next thing to sort out, tomorrow's voting system is ADDITIVE. and we're all PR'ed. so we probably won't be able to discuss much, so we should discuss how to sort out all of tomorrow's sytems now too.
BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG BONG

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AAEEFWOFAAEE!!!!!
Too scummy to be scum isn't an argument.
ARRARGH YAK FITZROWER RIP!!!!!!
I'm usually good at reading VI's, recently there was a guy who claimed he used a random generator for his rolecop target and I correctly read him as town. Difference from then and with pwnman?

I can at least see why he may have done what he has done.

Copying someone word for word

and then denying it

is COMPLETELY different.

What happened with pwnman then? Let's go back.
He posts his copied list. I immideately call him scum. He questions it, I laugh at him. Jah presents the list of copied quotes. HE IGNORES IT AND STILL ASKS ME WHYS HE SCUM. I keep mocking him. HE POSTS HIS ROLE PM AS PROOF. UK and I facepalm at the fail. HACKER SHOWS UP AND SAYS PWNMAN LOOKS OK?!?!? SAMP comes over with a breif one liner asking pwnman questions that HAD ALREADY BEEN ASKED. The rest of his post is still beaating on obv-town Cobalt. Pwnman comes in and says HE QUOTES HIS ROLE PM BECAUSE I WAS ATTACKING HIM and that HE DIDN'T COPY!!!!

Case on Hacker was simple. Anyone who didn't see pwnman as scummy at the least were scum for knowing he was town. Your anti-reaction and refusal to see the ridiculously simple case on Hacker (Yes, I know he flipped town, I have no idea what he was thinking in calling pwn ok) makes me think that

you're

SCUM that knew both pwnman and hacker would flip town and is trying to that to press on people who wanted them dead. Not going to happen.

BARF BARF

BLAST Ellibereth's NUTRILOAF to Cobalt

Throw back please.

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BING BING BING BING BING
BANG BANG BANG BANG
BOING BOING BOING BOING

And we still need discussion about how we're going to deal with tomorrow guys. I don't want to pull that to close to deadline.

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Throw farside's NUTRILOAF to farside

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BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Eli: Do you still see this as colbalt town meta? I havent' seen the same aggressive, lets lynch scum attitude and he's been really quiet this game, more then usual.

Too lazy to go back and read right now. Off the top of my head I think he was quiet in Quiz Show and PYP 2 (the former was wierdo though).
But regardless, Cobalt is town. He's helping me lynch SCUMSAMP.
KRACKALALNGILADOKRANG
Why did you send me drugs Spyrex???? WHY?????? (They're great btw)
DRIPDRIPDRIPDRIPDRIPDRIPDRIP

Use the force to fling Ellibereth's NUTRILOAF at SAMP

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SHSHSHSHSHSHSHSHSHSHSHS
I had a town read on Uk, and have a town read on Slicey. Only matter of doubt is that meta-stuff that Farside brought up, but stuff I don't know doesn't hold any weight.
KRINGKRINGKRINGKRING
Content from Grimmy and Minineko would be very nice.
ZAPZAPZAPZAPZAPZAP
And more COVERING SAMP WITH NUTRILOAF!!!!

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Terribad Power Outage, LA for a few days

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MAS CLAM

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POP CORN

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N1 RESUL

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VNL TOWN

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ALS CONF

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JAH CLAM

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YVOT SLI

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fin clam

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FIN CLAM

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NEEDS 27

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SLI FLAV

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UINPRIS

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JAH CLAM

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CONFUSE

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SOM1 GET

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OIGET IT

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NEEDSLY

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GRICONF

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CONFUSE

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RECUIT?

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IKNOW

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GRIPOST

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RECRUIT

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LOLWAT?

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HECLMVT

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SMPN1 RC

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GRIMEXP

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YRANDOM

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ATSLY

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STLUNDC

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IVT2DAY

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COBSLY

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NAMCRIM

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YSPLTVT

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SPLITVT

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CHOOSE1

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SPTVOTE

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WHAT?

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WHYNOT

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CHOOSE1

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SLYCOB

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CHOOSE1

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NLY1SCUM

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ROLEYES

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TENVOTE

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ONSLI

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ELEVEN

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2LYNCH

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RITE?

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INOHAM

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MINIEXP

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I think I sent DGB something like a hundred pms throughout the game asking questions.
I didn't hammer today because I was worried for some reason that there would be some weird thing happening in Night and I also wasn't that sure on the scum wincon happening. Was pretty sure Spyrex was going to vote Slicey too.