Pick Your Power II - Looks like the wine is gone (SCUM WIN)

[Ellibereth]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 10

Bouncy.Bouncy

- 5 - Fate, wolframnhart, Devotress, RedCoyote, The1fifi - (L-5)

Pomegranate

- 2 - Socrates, Porkens - (L-8)

Socrates

- 1 - StrangerCoug - (L-9)

wolframnhart

- 2 - Jack, Ellibereth - (L-8)

Players not voting: Bouncy.Bouncy, curiouskarmadog, DocPotter, Faraday, Farside, Hoopla, Pomegranate, Rayfrost, TonyMontana

That is not a hammer. Please hammer.

Why was a hammer asked for when FFF not only on V/LA but no claim had occured?

I didn't care about either.

[farside22]

I'm currently not in support for the bouncy.bouncy wagon.

The logic of 'scum could've pushed the wagon just as easily as the one they did' is terribad.

As we are seeing (and saw), bouncy.bouncy is submitting virtually nothing of value... continually.

To contrast, fefifofum may have eventually at some point been of use and started scumhunting.

So fefifofum being lynched would be superior.

Even if scum could just as easily push one lynch over the other, you have to consider the benefits too. Stop making me do smart posts. It ruins the 'lol he fails' meta on me. >.>"

This makes no sense to me. Can you explain this better.

[farside22]

That is not a hammer. Please hammer.

Why was a hammer asked for when FFF not only on V/LA but no claim had occured?

I didn't care about either.

Vote: Elli

Why?

[Ellibereth]

That is not a hammer. Please hammer.

Why was a hammer asked for when FFF not only on V/LA but no claim had occured?

I didn't care about either.

Vote: Elli

Why?

Makes no difference. When you want someone dead you want them dead.

[farside22]

That is not a hammer. Please hammer.

Why was a hammer asked for when FFF not only on V/LA but no claim had occured?

I didn't care about either.

Vote: Elli

Why?

Makes no difference. When you want someone dead you want them dead.

looking at your post and reasoning for FFF looked like you were just looking at lurkers to lynch.
What was your thoughts on TM after his vote and lurking?

[Ellibereth]

That is not a hammer. Please hammer.

Why was a hammer asked for when FFF not only on V/LA but no claim had occured?

I didn't care about either.

Vote: Elli

Why?

Makes no difference. When you want someone dead you want them dead.

looking at your post and reasoning for FFF looked like you were just looking at lurkers to lynch.
What was your thoughts on TM after his vote and lurking?

I was. FFFF = Scummiest lurker.
I didn't have any thoughts about him. I still don't have any. Waiting for him to post.

[Faraday]

Farside why are you voting Elli?

What could a claim possibly have done? We were deadlined and there was no guarantee he'd be back to claim + the chances of being able to start a new wagon was also pretty much non existent.

[farside22]

@Elli: What is your thoughts on the players voting for FFF that pushed it to lynch while the player was gone but jumped off of Pom and bouncy?

[farside22]

Farside why are you voting Elli?

What could a claim possibly have done? We were deadlined and there was no guarantee he'd be back to claim + the chances of being able to start a new wagon was also pretty much non existent.

First that push at the last minute on FFF looks completely scum motivated.
He was on V/LA which everyone ignored and pushed on a wagon based more on lurking then actual scum hunting
Second someone wanted a hammer on a player without asking for more from that player looks completely scummy. Elli pushed for it more and I'm curious why people were like lets forget pom and push on this wagon for no flipping reason what-so-ever.

[The1fifi]

Socrates

Elli is so amazingly full of townie-ness that if anyone even considers voting for him they should be barred from playing mafia for the rest of their life.

Farside

Vote: Elli

<.<

[farside22]

Socrates

Elli is so amazingly full of townie-ness that if anyone even considers voting for him they should be barred from playing mafia for the rest of their life.

Farside

Vote: Elli

<.<

Aren't you the helpful one. Will you actually idk actually have views on players today or continue your comedy routine?

[Faraday]

First that push at the last minute on FFF looks completely scum motivated.

He was on V/LA which everyone ignored

and pushed on a wagon based more on lurking then actual scum hunting
Second someone wanted a hammer on a player without asking for more from that player looks completely scummy. Elli pushed for it more and I'm curious why people were like lets forget pom and push on this wagon for no flipping reason what-so-ever.

What gives you that impression? I personally didn't care that he was on v/la, in fact I'd considered the posibillity it was tactical in order to prevent his lynch.
But if he wasn't going to be around then why hold up? Plus the fact he had 10 days or w/e before that to contribute and did absolutely nothing.

[farside22]

First that push at the last minute on FFF looks completely scum motivated.

He was on V/LA which everyone ignored

and pushed on a wagon based more on lurking then actual scum hunting
Second someone wanted a hammer on a player without asking for more from that player looks completely scummy. Elli pushed for it more and I'm curious why people were like lets forget pom and push on this wagon for no flipping reason what-so-ever.

What gives you that impression? I personally didn't care that he was on v/la, in fact I'd considered the posibillity it was tactical in order to prevent his lynch.
But if he wasn't going to be around then why hold up? Plus the fact he had 10 days or w/e before that to contribute and did absolutely nothing.

So was Pom but people willingly(?) jumped off that wagon for another. It makes no sense and it makes me see Pom as more likely scum in this case.
Eli pushing for FFF over pom, makes me think scum with Pom.

[The1fifi]

Socrates

Elli is so amazingly full of townie-ness that if anyone even considers voting for him they should be barred from playing mafia for the rest of their life.

Farside

Vote: Elli

<.<

Aren't you the helpful one. Will you actually idk actually have views on players today or continue your comedy routine?

Really? and who are you to judge what i have done? much more than you, i believe.. just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there

[farside22]

Socrates

Elli is so amazingly full of townie-ness that if anyone even considers voting for him they should be barred from playing mafia for the rest of their life.

Farside

Vote: Elli

<.<

Aren't you the helpful one. Will you actually idk actually have views on players today or continue your comedy routine?

Really? and who are you to judge what i have done? much more than you, i believe.. just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there

Lets see I have 10 more post then you. I have made a case on Pom and I'm not following players to the point of active lurkering like yourself.

[The1fifi]

Lets see I have 10 more post then you. I have made a case on Pom and I'm not following players to the point of active lurkering like yourself.

True, but quantity differs from quality. And for someone to do reads, it takes someone to fish for reactions.

[Ellibereth]

Don't feel like looking back right now, but yeah, there was definitely scum on that wagon.
....
Actually I will look back, urghal.
Rayfrost, wolframnhart, Faraday, Hoopla, The1fifi, Ellibereth, Jack, Fate, TonyMontana, RedCoyote, Cobalt, Dramonic

Cob and Dram are town. I'm town. So that leaves: Ray, Wolf, Fara, Hoop, The1, Jack, Fate, Tony, Red.

Fara, Hoop, The1, Jack, and Fate all look majorly town to me off the top of my head,

Ray, Wolf, Tony, Red. I list Red as town earlier IIRC. I have to and check why again. But yeah. And I'm too lazy to see who was originally on Pom wagon.

[farside22]

Lets see I have 10 more post then you. I have made a case on Pom and I'm not following players to the point of active lurkering like yourself.

True, but quantity differs from quality. And for someone to do reads, it takes someone to fish for reactions.

the only person I saw fishing was fishing for you when there was a BW vote against you yesterday that started with cobalt.
What fishing have you attempted? Or do you mean the let me follow everyone else because I have no desire (read scum motivation) to put a case out.

[The1fifi]

Ellie

Ray, Wolf, Tony, Red. I list Red as town earlier IIRC. I have to and check why again. But yeah. And I'm too lazy to see who was originally on Pom wagon.
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Well, tony is a big fat lurker, Wolf has already drawn suspicion on himself from a few players, ray is...ray -.-, and Red is someone who has been under my radar..

[Jack]

That is not a hammer. Please hammer.

Why was a hammer asked for when FFF not only on V/LA but no claim had occured?

What would you have done?

Does everyone know who my account was before my ban? This is my account after my ban is up. You should all know that bandwagons are pointless on me if you know what my origin is.

[The1fifi]

Lets see I have 10 more post then you. I have made a case on Pom and I'm not following players to the point of active lurkering like yourself.

True, but quantity differs from quality. And for someone to do reads, it takes someone to fish for reactions.

the only person I saw fishing was fishing for you when there was a BW vote against you yesterday that started with cobalt.
What fishing have you attempted? Or do you mean the let me follow everyone else because I have no desire (read scum motivation) to put a case out.

this isn't about who is best. is about who is town.

[The1fifi]

That is not a hammer. Please hammer.

Why was a hammer asked for when FFF not only on V/LA but no claim had occured?

What would you have done?

Does everyone know who my account was before my ban? This is my account after my ban is up. You should all know that bandwagons are pointless on me if you know what my origin is.

Lol, perfect answer.

[farside22]

That is not a hammer. Please hammer.

Why was a hammer asked for when FFF not only on V/LA but no claim had occured?

What would you have done?

Does everyone know who my account was before my ban? This is my account after my ban is up. You should all know that bandwagons are pointless on me if you know what my origin is.

I was here when that happened my vote didn't change.

Oh look fifi follows more then a dog. Does he get treats too?

[The1fifi]

I was here when that happened my vote didn't change.

Oh look fifi follows more then a dog. Does he get treats too?

Yeah, and he can smell scum.

[farside22]

I was here when that happened my vote didn't change.

Oh look fifi follows more then a dog. Does he get treats too?

Yeah, and he can smell scum.

You either have a bad sense of smell or miss sarcasm by a long shot. Either way your following of others is noted but I'm sticking with Eli and Pom till I'm happy with my answers.