SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[LlamaFluff]

@Spy - CSL is useless, I did have a slight town read on his predicessor though. Im going to assume that someone realizes useless people are the best to investigate since scum will never kill them then get stuck bumping off confirmed useless town or unconfrimed.

RBT is still the lynch. We will deal with CSL later.

I dont like how this looks like directing a PR. Useless people are what vig is for, right?

Its just giving a reason that I dont think we should be lynching him today. There are some people I dont mind policy lynching, but this isnt the time or place to do it. There also are better alternatives, if nothing else wait untill we have a few dead scum and see if he ties to them.

[Kairyuu]

@Anon: The argument for the Unbreakable Alliance has been made before. I'll go see if I can find it. Essentially it boils down to the idea that the benefits of each member of the alliance acting as if every member is confirmed town outweigh the risks of the alliance containing scum. Noteworthy is the fact that even if the alliance does contain scum, said scum would be foolish to begin picking off members of their own alliance, as said alliance is protecting them until late game when everyone who is not alliance is dead, at which point they then have to contend with a group of people hand selected for being the most pro-town.

In addition to that, SpyreX is practically confirmed town right now. If he had proposed the alliance as scum in order to fill it with his scumbuddies, he is still the biggest target for the second scumgroup we probably have, as well as potential third party killing roles. If he would die, the alliance would break instantly, and the majority of them would die in quick succession, ruining his setup and killing his chances of winning.

Of course, that doesn't even touch on the benefits of the fact that we're acting like a group of SEVEN MASONS. This means no questions of scumminess, the ability to nearly control the lynch (at the moment we make up more than half of the votes required to lynch, as the game progresses that number will likely increase). Not only that, the fact that we control a large portion of the votes makes it rather difficult to lynch US, so if the scum want us dead, they need to appease us during the Day and hope that they can manage to kill us off fast enough at Night to keep themselves from dying.

@Rifka: Hint. Hint. LlamaFluff IS trying to direct a power role. He's also not wrong in his decision. What I don't like is that immediately after casting suspicion on him for doing it, YOU become a hypocrite and try to direct a vig.

[Fishythefish]

I don't see the point of an agreement not to lynch each other when there is no way for the voting block to actually agree on someone else to vote.

Also, Anon is far too likely scum.

[Anon]

Why, Mr. Fishy?

I dont remember you even directing a single piece of suspicion to me before.

[Fishythefish]

Oh, you're not one of my major scumreads. But you don't belong in The Unbreakable Alliance.

I'll say more if and when becomes time to lynch you.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

CSL (1): SpyreX
DocPotter (1): Bogre
Parama (2): FeFiFoFum
Riceballtail (12): RayFrost, LlamaFluff, Maemuki, Amished, Pomegranate, Fishythefish, sykedoc, CSL, dramonic, RichardGHP, Parama, Kairyuu
RichardGHP (1): animorpherv1
sykedoc (7): Anon, DeathNote, Starbuck, Rifka Viveka, DocPotter, Riceballtail, wolframnhart
Not voting (2): My Milked Eek, PoisonIvy

With

25

players alive, it takes

13

votes to lynch.

[Rifka Viveka]

@Rifka: Hint. Hint. LlamaFluff IS trying to direct a power role. He's also not wrong in his decision. What I don't like is that immediately after casting suspicion on him for doing it, YOU become a hypocrite and try to direct a vig.

Nope. My list of PRs is things like cop, tracker, doc. Vig is a scumish role i dont like as its often associated with fake claiming SKs\godfathers. Now if a vig targeted CSL and got watched, i wouldnt cry nearly as hard as i would if a say cop did.

[Anon]

Oh, you're not one of my major scumreads. But you don't belong in The Unbreakable Alliance.

I'll say more if and when becomes time to lynch you.

Make sure your case is a little better than the Fluff one.

In other news, someone unvote RBT so that nobody does something stupid and he can claim.

[FeFiFoFum]

alliance indissoluble n'est pas bon. Je pense tout cœur dans une allégation relative au rôle de masse.

[LlamaFluff]

unvote

for all practical purposes I am still voting RBT

[animorpherv1]

Has RBT claimed yet?

[FeFiFoFum]

Je crois que c'est la voie à suivre.

unvote vote RBT

[RayFrost]

unvote

[LlamaFluff]

talk about right on queue

[wolframnhart]

the heck? FFFF was that an attempted hammer on RBT? If not did you only vote because llama unvoted and so you wouldn't be the hammer?

[Kairyuu]

Either way it's scummy.

[wolframnhart]

very true.

In fact

unvote, vote FFFF

really did not like the way that looked

[sykedoc]

very true.

In fact

unvote, vote FFFF

really did not like the way that looked

I'm not sure we can keep hopping around like this.

[Kairyuu]

Syke, he was voting you.

[Riceballtail]

UNVOTE;VOTE:FFFF

Now this is a wagon I can really get behind.

[RayFrost]

UNVOTE;VOTE:FFFF

Now this is a wagon I can really get behind.

claim now.

[LlamaFluff]

UNVOTE;VOTE:FFFF

Now this is a wagon I can really get behind.

Unless you role is "Wagon I can really get behind" something is missing from this post

[RayFrost]

UNVOTE;VOTE:FFFF

Now this is a wagon I can really get behind.

Unless you role is "Wagon I can really get behind" something is missing from this post

UNVOTE;VOTE:FFFF

Now this is a wagon I can really get behind.

claim now.

[RayFrost]

Reordered so RBT can understand.

[Kairyuu]

@Ray: Note 1032 and 1035. It was already requested twice before that post. Either it was blatantly ignored, or RBT managed to miss both, and the two unvotes FOR the claim, but not FFFF's vote switch. Note that was ANOTHER OMGUS by RBT.