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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:57 pm

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Adel wrote:My main objection to self-noms stems from my experience as a scummy judge: there are too damn many nominations for any judge to make a truly informed decision.

Allowing self-nominations will only exasperate the problem.
Wouldn't more games = more informed decision. As is you're not picking the best, you're picking the best nominated.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:59 pm

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Oman wrote:
Adel wrote:My main objection to self-noms stems from my experience as a scummy judge: there are too damn many nominations for any judge to make a truly informed decision.

Allowing self-nominations will only exasperate the problem.
Wouldn't more games = more informed decision. As is you're not picking the best, you're picking the best nominated.
as I see it

more nominations = more games for the judges to review = less attention for each nom = less chance of the judges picking the "correct" nom to award with a scummy
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:01 pm

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Adel wrote:
Oman wrote:
Adel wrote:My main objection to self-noms stems from my experience as a scummy judge: there are too damn many nominations for any judge to make a truly informed decision.

Allowing self-nominations will only exasperate the problem.
Wouldn't more games = more informed decision. As is you're not picking the best, you're picking the best nominated.
as I see it

more nominations = more games for the judges to review = less attention for each nom = less chance of the judges picking the "correct" nom to award with a scummy
But that also applies to if one year has more nomal nominations.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:29 pm

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Oman wrote:
Adel wrote:My main objection to self-noms stems from my experience as a scummy judge: there are too damn many nominations for any judge to make a truly informed decision.

Allowing self-nominations will only exasperate the problem.
Wouldn't more games = more informed decision. As is you're not picking the best, you're picking the best nominated.
Just like in many things, you'd reach a point of diminishing returns. Worthy games should be nominated indeed, but filling the judges' plates with fodder intuitively seems like a bad idea.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:51 pm

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Take this discussion elsewhere. This thread is for nominations.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:23 pm

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I've decided that I will go ahead and
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:28 am

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Adel wrote:My main objection to self-noms stems from my experience as a scummy judge: there are too damn many nominations for any judge to make a truly informed decision.
That was my experience as well (at least in certain categories). And games were a fair-lot shorter the year I was a judge...

I'm less worried about the 'trading noms' thing, because a) it's going to happen off-site if we forbid it here, and b) it at least requires TWO brains to think the game is worthy, plus the second/third/whatever. Players' self-image is notoriously unreliable.

And yes, I think one year we had a person second their own nom with an alt. Or was that an Open Setup?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:40 am

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hmmm... I see the best solution to self noms is to perma-ban anyone who does so. Also, I wouldn't have thought nominating people for newbie games is appropriate, unless it's the best newbie award of course. As I see them as separate from the rest of the site and more of a training field. Like awarding someone a medal in the army because of a training exercise?
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:53 am

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Max you're being ridiculous.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:55 am

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Max wrote: Like awarding someone a medal in
the army
a branch other then the army because of a training exercise?
Fixed.

I also find the idea of self noms troublesome as it would vastly increase the judges reading material, if no one else in a game noms it/you then how spectacular could it have been?

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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:15 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:Max you're being ridiculous.
I'm just stating that newbie games aren't meant to be played to win, they're to give newbies a feel for the site and the game. Of course a win is good, but say if an IC did the same in the game, would they be nominated? Probably not, and they probably shouldn't be. However best newbie is more suited, though not yet as it's for more than one game.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:20 am

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Don't be fooled if the claim is convincing, there's a reason he asked if he could be nominated for it.
I didn't ask to be nominated for a claim. I asked to nominate someone else for a claim. Just leave me alone. This is my last post in this thread.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:23 am

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Watch this:

Nominate hitogoroshi for funniest player


I usually get a good chuckle out of his posts either in game or not.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:30 am

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Max wrote:hmmm... I see the best solution to self noms is to perma-ban anyone who does so.
I was more referring to this.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:32 am

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Yeah, I was joking.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:08 pm

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VP Baltar wrote:Watch this:

Nominate hitogoroshi for funniest player


I usually get a good chuckle out of his posts either in game or not.
Seconded
on condition that he keeps it up.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:57 pm

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Should go to Jahudo.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:07 pm

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Adel wrote:My main objection to self-noms stems from my experience as a scummy judge: there are too damn many nominations for any judge to make a truly informed decision.
Yeah, there are.

When I was a scummy judge last year, there was like a month when I was semi-lurking in all my games in order to try and read through all the games I needed to judge the scummies fairly, and there were still some games I had to pretty much just skim, if that. I don't think any of the other judges did any better, either. There are a LOT of games you have to read, most of them over 100 pages.

Less nominations=judges will do a better job at all of them.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:50 pm

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zoraster wrote:
Nominate: popsofctown
for Don Corleone.

As an example, take Mafia 105
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:21 pm

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I thought I recalled a
best effort in a losing position
category one year.

If I can get that back up I want to nominate
Kast for Big Brother


http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... start=1850

He had to deal with a mod kill of one of his scum team and his other scum partner was lynched day 2. He made a valient effort in trying to make it to the end with no night kill. All this while replacing zwet.
If I can't get him for that category I will say nominate him for
best replacement
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:41 pm

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second both
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:52 am

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Now that the game is over...

Nominate
Cobalt
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Funniest Claim
for his Mickey Mouse fakeclaim in Kingdom Hearts Mafia.

I was a cop and had investigated him the night before, so I already knew he was scum. He used a day ability that had a gunshot flavor and that he claimed was a lie detector ability that would kill someone if they were telling the truth (and miss otherwise). This was his actual ability, but when I forced him to name claim, he had to come up with a claim that would fit this (pretty tough since it was clearly an anti-town ability), so he claimed King Mickey with a gun that would kill people for telling the truth.
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:41 am

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Vi wrote:
VP Baltar wrote:Watch this:

Nominate hitogoroshi for funniest player


I usually get a good chuckle out of his posts either in game or not.
Seconded
on condition that he keeps it up.
Thirded
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:54 am

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...how is that funny, Kdub?
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:08 am

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Best role claim maybe, funniest?

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