Teleportation Mafia Universe ONE (MAFIA A WINS!)

[evilsnail]

Day 2 Vote Count

CSL ( 1 ) Rhinox
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 2 ) Ellibereth farside22
farside22 ( 1 ) popsofctown
fishythefish ( 1 ) evilsnail
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
mykonian ( 0 )
ojanen ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 4 ) gayle Hoopla elvis_knits fishythefish
Raskol ( 1 ) mykonian
Rhinox ( 1 ) ojanen
Not Voting ( 2 ) CSL Raskol
Total Votes ( 13 )

With 13 alive, 7 needed to lynch.
Deadline: Feb 22nd 19:00 EST

I realise. I like your 1195, even though I don't think the case is particularly convincing.

[popsofctown]

well, I'm not blood dripping fangs sure about it, which is why i favored CSL lynch until the teleportation idea was proposed.

[Hoopla]

I didn't know where to start when having to sift through a 40 page Day 1 to find information - there was a lot of noisy back-and-forths that clouded my understanding of the game so far. So, I decided to look at the more visual information of votes and bandwagons to get me started. I copied all the votecounts into a spreadsheet and began to think about where to expect scum, and then identify patterns to give me specific people/passages of play to look at.

My first theory is something I've used before, about a scum consciousness - a natural understanding/following of each other's play as a team that forces you to adopt different positions/suspicions. I think it's a subconcious thing, even experienced scum players don't bundle all their eggs in one basket and create obvious links between the whole team.

I've seen one game, where a 5-player scumteam all jumped on a townwagon in a row, but I don't envisage a 3-player scumteam taking such risks, as they have more to lose, and frankly it isn't necessary to do on Day 1. Here are some snippets from D1 vote counts;

Page 6:

gayle ( 3 ) fishythefish farside22 popsofctown

Page 11:

Raskol ( 3 ) evilsnail farside22 ojanen

Page 12:

DrippingGoofball

( 3 ) mykonian plum popsofctown

Page 19:

Raskol ( 3 ) evilsnail ojanen fishythefish

Page 22:

DrippingGoofball

( 4 ) mykonian

Albert B. Rampage

popsofctown farside22

Page 34:

CSL ( 3 ) Rhinox ojanen elvis_knits


In all of these cases, I'd rule out a scumteam of the above sets of players, based on scum conciousness not wanting to be all bundled together. I loosely conclude that the names that appear in the most sets are slightly more town, as I have ruled out a small amount of possible teams they can be in - as opposed to other players who I have not.

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Next;

Page 38:

Albert B. Rampage

( 5 ) gayle elvis_knits farside22 popsofctown CSL

Page 39:

Albert B. Rampage

( 8 ) gayle elvis_knits farside22 popsofctown CSL fishythefish plum mykonian

I'm wary of how quickly the last part of ABR's wagon ballooned to lynch, and think it's likely one of the last three voters is scum. Plum's vote feels the weakest, and combined with her presence on the DGB wagon, I am finding her to be a main suspect, and I want to read her more soon.

I think

one

of fishythefish and evilsnail is a decent chance of scum, but I don't want to say why yet. I still want to look at some other information first.

~~

Farside and elvis_knits are looking very town in my eyes, and I don't think I want to lynch pops any more.

Unvote

[Hoopla]

Has anyone asked why Rhinox told DGB to claim when he put her at L-1 (she was actually only at L-2 - seemed like an honest mistake). It seems like an unnecessary thing to do, when I don't think there was a majority at the time who wanted her dead.

I don't think I'm convinced with Ojanen's and mykonian's pressing on Rhinox, though - it seems weak for a 50 page game.

[Hoopla]

Vote: Plum

while I'm at it.

[Ojanen]

Hoopla, Plum was teleported to the other universe.
(will have time for real post later today.)

[Hoopla]

Hoopla, Plum was teleported to the other universe.
(will have time for real post later today.)

Oh, I feel stupid now.

Unvote

[popsofctown]

Do you have to unvote an invalid vote?..

1203 is goodposting

[elvis_knits]

You should have been actively looking for scum, and been pushing for somebody you thought was scum to get lynched. Instead you were waiting for the scum to come to you, and when it didn't happen you went "oh well, vote dgb or abr or whatever you people have decided." You should have been proactive. You weren't.

Sorry for multiposting, accidentally read the thread out of order.





Are you serious e_k? In deadline zone, you wanted me to find someone totally new I felt was scummy, convince a majority of the town to abandon all the popular wagons to go after that person, and then lynched them? You need to be more practical. Seriously.

You are either not understanding me or are twisting my words. I am NOT saying you should have picked someone at the last minute and been able to convince everyone to come over to that person.

What I am saying is that you should have been more proactive ALL ALONG, and been scum hunting ALL ALONG, and argued for someone you found scummy to be lynched. Instead, you were just following along with the majority. Not just with ABR, but with DGB also, so this wasn't all at the eleventh hour. AND the same thing goes for your play today, when we are not under deadline pressure. You were doing nothing and then threw out a csl vote even though you seemed to have no real idea if he's scum or not.

Also, farside is town. So. Yeah.

[elvis_knits]

Vote: Plum

while I'm at it.

Why did you even vote plum here? I don't see you mention her at all. So this is completely random.

[Hoopla]

Vote: Plum

while I'm at it.

Why did you even vote plum here? I don't see you mention her at all. So this is completely random.

Then, you should read my post again!

[elvis_knits]

Plum's vote feels the weakest, and combined with her presence on the DGB wagon, I am finding her to be a main suspect, and I want to read her more soon.

Okay.

Anyway, Hoopla, I noticed that all the other females in this game are town, now that Plum has been excommunicated. You're the only one I'm not sure of yet as I haven't seen enough from you since you replaced recently. Do you want to join in our awesome girl power?

[Hoopla]

Do I get to wear a badge?

[elvis_knits]

No badge, but we use the blood of our lynches to bathe in.

[popsofctown]

Anyway, Hoopla, I noticed that all the other females in this game are town, now that Plum has been excommunicated.

Yes, why leave the females' agreement not to lynch eachother unspoken? :eyeroll:

[zorastermod]

Maelyn has entered this universe

[Hoopla]

This is going to make bandwagon analysis so annoying.

[popsofctown]

Maelyn has entered this universe

If you vote me for President, I will tighten up border control....

[Hoopla]

Hey pops, can I read some of your town games? I only know you from Mafia 105.

[elvis_knits]

Anyway, Hoopla, I noticed that all the other females in this game are town, now that Plum has been excommunicated.

Yes, why leave the females' agreement not to lynch eachother unspoken? :eyeroll:

We are taking males too if they pass the "application" process.

[popsofctown]

/apply

[popsofctown]

Hey pops, can I read some of your town games? I only know you from Mafia 105.

Just a sec

[popsofctown]

http://67.222.17.61/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11211

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9597

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10451

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... c&&start=0

i robbed 3 of them from Vi's wiki and googled myself for the other one.

That's not a complete list, it's just 4 recent town games.

[Hoopla]

you seem more serious and focused in your town games, pops. do you think that's true?

[popsofctown]

compared to mafia 105 or compared to this game?

either way, disagree. Pie E7 I couldn't focus at all. Mafia jailbreak I was lynched for not being serious, fluffposting, and basically trying to enjoy mafia.