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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:08 pm

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Iecerint wrote:Useless is just as hard to get a read on as the inactives. Why do you prefer the players you listed to the useless one?
Because I know McGriddle is useless. Useless players should be lynched by town regardless of alignment, just because scum would want to leave them alive until endgame.

Inactives on the other hand, I would want one of them to burn so maybe we can get an 'inspection' off someone we have no other way to get a read off of.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:15 pm

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If we have a CP-innocent on McGriddle, I'm sure scum will be happy to kill him. Also, I disagree with your implicit endorsement of policy lynches. Zwet et al make minimally painful mislynches, but they're ideally investigation targets.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:19 pm

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Well I'm at loss. No one has done anything this game besides setup guessing/breaking except for f1f1, and I could write that off as dumb town.

Oh wait, Almaster vigged Seacore for being... alive. Like I said in post #299, still don't think we should leave him alive.

Anyone else got any reads?
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:01 pm

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Cobalt wrote:I suddenly want JR or Almaster to burn.

Well, I don't really have any problem with that. I'm willing to burn. Just tell me when and how much.


Anyway, it just came out a bit scummy when Almaster killed Seacore. It was a
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daykill. Worst is Seacore has been helpful and now he's gone.

I am getting more inclined to switch my vote on Almaster now.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:22 pm

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MS is not letting me edit posts at all tonight due to the server lag issue, so I'm just going to make a new post. The answer to pops' question is yes, Commander status is revealed upon death.

I'm prodding Cruciare.
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:09 pm

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/SORRY

I'll be honest and say that all this burning CP talk and the various strategies various people are coming up with is flying completely over my head. I understand that we want to get scummy people to burn an amount of CP and then use the commander(s) to count points to 'investigate' them, but I'm not getting the specifics at all. Once again, someone please explain to me what the current plans are and what we need to know/do about it.

Concerning Alma killing Seacore, I haven't read Super UPick or anything, but Alma's attitude regarding Seacore leading up to the kill (his strong stance, repeated calls for a claim) seemed pretty genuine IMO. Which is funny because it's a complete reversal of the read I had on him before the daykill. The only question I can pose is why he didn't kill Fifi instead (I mean don't vigs exist so we don't have to waste lynches on people like him =D). I don't see a problem with Pops' proposition regarding Alma.

I would be criticising the lurkers in this paragraph right now, but my activity has been pretty crap too (real life stuff). I have to say that Bv's lurking is spectacularly stand-out though, with his posts in general able to be summed up by "I'm here, nothing to report" and all. McGriddle is not taking the game very seriously, which I've seen people do and isn't really a scumtell IMO. I can relate to his confusion as to what Pops and Iece and Fate are discussing. Fifi is -- oh dammit that daykill was meant for this guy.
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; Fifi and other useless people should be vigged ASAP.

So anyway, these CP plans and schemes sound important, someone tell me what they're all about.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:57 pm

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bv310 wrote:The odds of this game having a daykilling scum or SK is extremely unlikely.
I agree. The closest thing we have to a confirmed town atm is AlmasterGM.
Cobalt wrote:I was daykilling scum in super upick and played just like almaster is doing now.
So we judge him on your meta?
Fate wrote:Seacore was voting F1f1, so uh, no he's not at L-1.
Sure, but because we're one person less, it also takes one less to hammer.
Fate wrote:I'm also for lynching Almaster straight up instead of having him burn, just because we'll likely have another dead townie on his hands tomorrow.
Just a reminder, shouldn't EVERYONE use a vote before we hammer?
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Dammit pops, you got me agreeing with everything you're saying again. That's how you got me last time!
Fate wrote:Also I think we should get off the f1f1 wagon.
Fate wrote:ecause I know McGriddle is useless. Useless players should be lynched by town regardless of alignment...


Explain your hypocrisy.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:02 am

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Cruc, Commanders are told how many CP their team ended up with at the end of Night. By asking specific players to waste a lot of CP, Commanders can evaluate how much CP remain to determine whether that player shares their CP pool. It's like a really costly Cop investigation.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:19 am

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Fate wrote:Meh, I don't like leaving a trigger happy vig alive, because if he "lives for too long" (either because scum let him live for WIFOM or he is scum) then it gets to the point where we say:

"Ok, lynch him now!" and then he goes.

"BWHAHAH YOURE GOING DOWN WITH ME!" and we end up at lylo the next day or something.

I have a meta on Mcgriddle, he's useless. He's a better lynch candidate tomorrow (barring no CP evidence) than he is to burn. One of the inactive should burn though, because I can't get a read on them otherwise.

Such as fqgghaweghqdas, Cruciare, or bv130
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:54 am

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Lol, once again, your attack basis on Mcgridle is the same as the reasons to attack me.

Nothing, besides the fact we been playing bad and scum is taking advantage of it. Meh.
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:24 am

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I just concisely described the point of burns. Are you still confused? There's no reason it should be confusing.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:42 am

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It's ok if he'll phase in when scumhunting starts, Iec



What I need from everyone in the thread now, whether you understand burning or not

1. Declaration of who you think should be investigated today, as if a sane cop were doing it.
2. Declaration of who you think should be lynched today. (fifi doesn't represent "sunk" votes, the people who voted him can be countned has burn 1 and then other players can lynch someone else who won the vote. So don't worry about that factor, ftr)



I personally think Fifi is useless though. My vote.
1. Burn-investigate JR
2. Lynch fifi

And no voting until the setup wizards decide how
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:30 am

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popsofctown wrote:It's ok if he'll phase in when scumhunting starts, Iec



What I need from everyone in the thread now, whether you understand burning or not

1. Declaration of who you think should be investigated today, as if a sane cop were doing it.
2. Declaration of who you think should be lynched today. (fifi doesn't represent "sunk" votes, the people who voted him can be countned has burn 1 and then other players can lynch someone else who won the vote. So don't worry about that factor, ftr)



I personally think Fifi is useless though. My vote.
1. Burn-investigate JR
2. Lynch fifi

And no voting until the setup wizards decide how
Burn-inv - iecerit or whatever
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:38 am

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Investiburn -- McGriddle would do. Or any of the lurkers.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:58 am

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Iecerint wrote:Investiburn -- McGriddle would do. Or any of the lurkers.
Lynch - fifi
it's too bad im not lurking anymore.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:02 pm

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I wasn't putting you in the category, necessarily.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:18 pm

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Burn - Iecrint
Lynch - fifi
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:35 pm

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Burn: McGrid
Lynch: fifi
Should get shot by hypothetical vig: Almaster
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:17 pm

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Iecerint wrote:I wasn't putting you in the category, necessarily.
Actually, you put him outside of the category for certain. Otherwise it would be "or any other of the lurkers".
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:30 pm

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Iecerint wrote:I wasn't putting you in the category, necessarily.
hm, misunderstood then sorry
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:32 pm

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Mmmmmmm semantics.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:53 pm

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Nah, my semantics were ambiguous. I could have been positing a lurker and then specifying that any lurkers were acceptable, or I could have posited a non-lurker and then specified that any lurkers were acceptable. It's true that I could have been clearer, though.

I wrote it the way I did because whooever's useless/lurker dichotomy between McGriddle and "the lurkers" was in my head.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:41 pm

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No, seriously, English grammar nazi here: the omission of "other" in English implies that he is not in the group.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:48 pm

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"I don't like the Beatles, or any 60s rock groups."

I'm sure it is ungrammatical via a certain warped, prescriptivist notion of the English language, but it's fine in my English. Hence, the semantics were ambiguous.
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:08 pm

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It is ungrammatical by the laws of grammar that the top english scholars have agreed upon.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"

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