Pick Your Power II - Looks like the wine is gone (SCUM WIN)

[RayFrost]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12

Bouncy.Bouncy

- 2 - RedCoyote, Ellibereth - (L-10)

Dramonic

- 2 - TonyMontana, Fate - (L-10)

Fate

- 5 - Bouncy.Bouncy, Porkens, The1fifi, Dramonic, FeFiFoFum - (L-7)

FeFiFoFum

- 5 - Rayfrost, Faraday, wolframnhart, DocPotter, Cobalt - (L-7)

Hoopla

- 2 - Pomegranate, Jack - (L-10)

Pomegranate

- 2 - Socrates, Farside - (L-10)

Socrates

- 2 - StrangerCoug, Hoopla - (L-10)

wolframnhart

- 1 - curiouskarmadog - (L-11)

Players not voting: Devotress

Devotress, who do you think is scum and why aren't you voting them?

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD are you going to do anything apart from tell us you're not contributing.

I am doing something (it is not my fault you cant figure out what it is). Does my presence in this game make you nervous? Do you think i am scum?

[RayFrost]

CKD are you going to do anything apart from tell us you're not contributing.

I am doing something (it is not my fault you cant figure out what it is). Does my presence in this game make you nervous? Do you think i am scum?

I forget you are in the game constantly. That's kind of annoying, but I don't think you are scum.

As to your question earlier, I didn't point you out because I didn't notice you... at all. Like, seriously, your presence in this game is less than mine and I'm barely managing to get any posts out.

[Socrates]

CKD, your obvious gimmick says nothing about your alignment.

Thoughts on Pomegranate?

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: Ill.

[Fate]

Devotress, who do you think is scum and why aren't you voting them?

[Fate]

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I should read them roles...

Vote: Fate

Actually nvm. RayFrost made me go back and see if he had unvoted me, but he didn't

Mod: Votals don't include dramonic's vote. (But they did when I was at L-1 so don't kill me!)

[Fate]

There's way too many good lynches out there.

Pom-wanted me to claim
Dramonic-Noted earlier
FFFF-L-1 omgus (what the hell do you mean bandwagons are useless on you?)
bouncy.bouncy-doesn't want to contribute except BWing me

I think Pom is in the lead, but these should be looked at as well.

[Ellibereth]

There's way too many good lynches out there.

Pom-wanted me to claim
Dramonic-Noted earlier
FFFF-L-1 omgus (what the hell do you mean bandwagons are useless on you?)
bouncy.bouncy-doesn't want to contribute except BWing me

I think Pom is in the lead, but these should be looked at as well.

Is that it on Pom or is there more? (Yes, I still haven't looked back yet)
Happy with both fefi and dram, disagree about dram.

[farside22]

There's way too many good lynches out there.

Pom-wanted me to claim
Dramonic-Noted earlier
FFFF-L-1 omgus (what the hell do you mean bandwagons are useless on you?)
bouncy.bouncy-doesn't want to contribute except BWing me

I think Pom is in the lead, but these should be looked at as well.

Is that it on Pom or is there more? (Yes, I still haven't looked back yet)
Happy with both fefi and dram, disagree about dram.

Pom backtracking and some comments that seem to indicate scum QT talks.

[Ellibereth]

EBWOP: Happt with both fefi and bouncy, disagree about dram

[Fate]

Pretty much. She had a wall of quotes text in which she voted Hoopla, then HoS: Fate and Jack.

Then she did this when someone else asked for my claim:

I believe it is a good time for you to claim, Fate.

I think that he should claim, even though I don't agree with Hoopla's plan that prompted this.

That's about it. That list was in no particular order, btw.

[Ellibereth]

Yeah I see. Read farside's wall last page.

Vote: Pom

[farside22]

Yeah I see. Read farside's wall last page.

Vote: Pom

Sorry for the wall. I have had to reread this game many times because of the number talks. I get what hoopla is going on about but it does overtake the game and leads to many people jumping on BW's that just look like eager people wanting to get out the top people.
Although Hoopla's logic is sound I would use some of what was said later in the game and not vote for fate/Soc just because they either got damn lucky no one else picked those numbers or scum that communicated and got damn lucky no one else picked those numbers.
So in short I'm looking for scum and reminding myself of the 9 groups that are there in the back of my head.

[Pomegranate]

@POM: Why would you think scum would not check their QT to try and get themselves sorted out on their number picks so they could have a better chance to be higher on the list?

I don't think that there is that much to learn from draft numbers. I think that scum probably did spread their numbers out, but CKD brings up the good point that it's likely that not all the scum checked the QT (or whatever) before submitting numbers. We can't learn much from the numbers now. Possibly later in the game- we'll see.

Wow and a contratiction all in the same post

Um, isn't there every reason scum want to pick different numbers? Like, say, to get PRs?

I really hate people that keep saying this:

Everyone wanted to be highest on the draft. Scum did too. I agree with the numbers 1-1-1-1-1 and 1-1-1-2. Scum did know what their buddies were going to pick- or at least could have known (they only had 24 hours, and I'd bet that at least one sent in numbers before checking the QT). But scum only knew their five numbers (collectively), not the seventeen other players' numbers. I guess this doesn't look like much. But there's something else:

It's like inside information almost on scum

[...]

My scum suspects are bouncy, jack, porkens and most especally pom. Pom and one other person expressed this desire to state that mafia didn't talk during the numbers talk. It's like an inside information into a scum chat that no one but scum should know.
Then she completely contradicts that comment in the same post pointing out that scum would like a top spot. Wishy, washy mmmmmm

unvote:
vote: Pom

fos: bouncy, Jack and porkens

I think scum would try to coordinate, but I think that it just might not happen with only 24 hours, probably different timezones, possibly V/LAs, and other factors that can mess it up. But I do think scum want PRs and all, obviously. I don't think there's a contradiction.

Also, if it's so likely that Socrates and Fate are scum, why are you voting me? You're following my logic (of voting someone you find scummy, not entirely based off of numbers), not your numbers logic.

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I need to give Pom/Plum a closer read later this week.

I'm Pom. Stop it.

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I am illiterate.

Seriously, we should be lynching Pomegranate right now.

What part of disagreeing with the logic that created a wagon and thinking that the primary pusher of said wagon is scum, but still wanting the waggoned person to claim doesn't absolutely scream scum to you guys?

I generally ask people to claim at L-1, regardless of what I think of the wagon. We had this discussion already. You never said why I didn't make sense. I will continue to ignore this argument until you do- otherwise we will just be going in circles.

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Bouncy bouncy should post too, it's been a while. I'm missing that guy (stop lurkan)

I'm not much of a D1 poster. What do you want me to comment on?

Everyone needs to participate. What do you think of the numbers discussion? (If you already said something about it I must have missed it.)

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To end off, the logic on my wagon is FAIL. It's made up of two things, if I'm not mistaken:

- I didn't want Fate to be lynched without claiming
- I said that I find it possible that not all the scum were able to coordinate draft numbers.

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD

FeFi is scum, Fo Fum (Fo Sho is another way to say Fo Fum, or is it the other way around?)

vote: FeFiFoFum

3 posts, 10 pages, 0 content, 100 basis points of follow the town.

are you going to do anything apart from tell us you're not contributing.

I am doing something (it is not my fault you cant figure out what it is). Does my presence in this game make you nervous? Do you think i am scum?

I forget you are in the game constantly. That's kind of annoying, but I don't think you are scum.

As to your question earlier, I didn't point you out because I didn't notice you... at all. Like, seriously, your presence in this game is less than mine and I'm barely managing to get any posts out.

so why am I not getting a vote? what have I done that fefi hasnt (or has?)

[Ellibereth]

CKD

FeFi is scum, Fo Fum (Fo Sho is another way to say Fo Fum, or is it the other way around?)

vote: FeFiFoFum

3 posts, 10 pages, 0 content, 100 basis points of follow the town.

are you going to do anything apart from tell us you're not contributing.

I am doing something (it is not my fault you cant figure out what it is). Does my presence in this game make you nervous? Do you think i am scum?

I forget you are in the game constantly. That's kind of annoying, but I don't think you are scum.

As to your question earlier, I didn't point you out because I didn't notice you... at all. Like, seriously, your presence in this game is less than mine and I'm barely managing to get any posts out.

so why am I not getting a vote? what have I done that fefi hasnt (or has?)

A) You're full of awesome
B) I hate numbers and don't want to muck through all of it later.

I'll read all of Pom's stuff later.

[Devotress]

@Rayfrost, bouncy, and because I wasn't on the internet for a bit over a day now.

vote bouncy

Reasons: ISO6, and weak excuse for joining the fate wagon.



The case on pomegranate seems off to me, though I can't comment on cobalt's "she's playing like scum pom", since I've only played one game with pom where she got replaced very early.

[Ellibereth]

EBWOP: muck through all of it either*
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Nvm, Pom's post was shorter than it looked.
Why are you so sure that scum didn't coordinate?

[Cobalt]

unvote vote pom

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD, your obvious gimmick says nothing about your alignment.

Thoughts on Pomegranate?

Did i say it would? think you are missing the point...not much to go on on day 1...blah blah blah....but you dont find it strange that I am actively lurking and people higher on the wagon are getting votes for doing the EXACT same thing? I even bring it to everyone's attention and people just skim right over my post. Its called an agenda...I am trying to see who exactly has one.

but I do find it interesting that you really are the first person ask me for direct content. (no faraday you didnt). About pom, I have no clue why she thinks that mafia didnt coordinate. I stated one of my first posts that I asked the mod directly if mafia could chat during the process and he said they could...only idiot (or shitty) mafia would not use it to their benefit.

so, not sure, what to think of her though. bad logical doesnt not equal scum. I also dont think that asking someone to claim at or close to -1 is scummy at all.

@cobalt, how does scum pom play?

[Cobalt]

@cobalt, how does scum pom play?

the way she is playing now

[curiouskarmadog]

A) You're full of awesome
B) I hate numbers and don't want to muck through all of it later.

I'll read all of Pom's stuff later.

well lets get something straight...I didnt say there wasnt anything IN the numbers...there might be something there, or there might be something there scum want to use as a defense. It is all up in the air and SHOULD be revisited when people start seeing alignments. I just dont think they should be used right now to direct a lynch.

[curiouskarmadog]

@cobalt, how does scum pom play?

the way she is playing now

need more....

[curiouskarmadog]

@cobalt, how does scum pom play?

the way she is playing now

is the a completed game you can link or are you pulling this information out of your.....?