Mini 905- Mafia in Sienna OVER

[Thesp]

I'm going to wait on Mori for awhile but, if the Wick wagon grows, y'all can expect me to jump on.

If it's between either of them, I'd vote on Wickedestjr, but I'm not convinced it needs to be between the two of them.

Mod, can we get a prod on Budja?

We seem unwilling to give attention to people who aren't posting.

^No, I guess you didn't make it clear, because in this post it seems like you are willing to vote Wicked. Add that to the fact that the "point" I brought up that you should've explained was your dissonance between "close to the deadline, let's push for claims lynch." and not voting Wicked, who you said before you're willing to vote for, to put him at L-1.

My apologies, I thought I had made it clear that I preferred other candidates, but that between Moriarty147 and Wickedestjr, I would vote Wickedestjr. I will vote for Wickedestjr over No Lynch as well. I find it notable that you're removing steam from the only other wagon that seems to have any decent attention. I'm still not understanding what you mean here - I

do

want to push for wagons now, and I'd rather push and get a wagon/claim on pman5595. However, the current size of the wagon on Wickedestjr has precluded that - we

must

hear from Wickedestjr.

[Sotty7]

Sorry guys I have been crazy busy these last few days. I should have time this afternoon to catch up. If not then I will make time tomorrow morning.

[pman5595]

Wicked, now is not the time to not post for 48 hours.

[Leafsnail]

Well... not much has changed. Wick is still scum, just inactive scum.

My apologies, I thought I had made it clear that I preferred other candidates, but that between Moriarty147 and Wickedestjr, I would vote Wickedestjr. I will vote for Wickedestjr over No Lynch as well. I find it notable that you're removing steam from the only other wagon that seems to have any decent attention. I'm still not understanding what you mean here - I do want to push for wagons now, and I'd rather push and get a wagon/claim on pman5595. However, the current size of the wagon on Wickedestjr has precluded that - we must hear from Wickedestjr.

In which case,,, again, why didn't you put him at L-1?

[Wickedestjr]

I am sorry but I won't be able to finish catching up. I swear I am not lurking. I have just been extremely busy lately. Check out my other game and you'll see I'm catching up in it too. Also, CTD brings up a good point regarding Thesp. He usually figures out some of the scum, but I don't think he's right about any of his suspects.

What games have you played with Thesp? CDT, same question to you to please.

I played with Thesp in Mafia Island which was a newbie game modded by Khelvaster, and I also played with him in Mafia at the Border which was also a newbie game modded by Khelvaster. I have also read large portions of Invitational 4 and Face to Face Mafia. Thesp happened to be in those.

1: Well the point here is both you and CTD have put Thesp up on this high level were he looks scummy if he doesn't break the game right away. It is an impossible high standard even for the best scum hunter.

2: I have played with Thesp twice. One game he was scum and was pretty active but the game was bogged down by less than fun players. The second game he was town and pretty lurky until the end. I haven't seen ThespTown bust open a whole or part of scum team. So if you have any links to show this, I'd like to see.

1: Thesp would've only had to suspect one or two people for me to forget about this point. I like how he suspects pman, so I don't put much merit in that point.

2: Well, in the first game I played with him, he had suspected both scum as early as day 1, but was fooled by bussing. (I think.) In the second game he had four/five suspects but he couldn't narrow it down, but I think both the scum were in that list. In Face to Face Mafia, he figured out one of the scum just a few pages into the game and seemed to have suspected the other two at other moments in time. In Invitational 4 I think he suspected 2/3 of the 5/6 scum.


Sorry for not posting much. I'm going to have limited access the next few days.

[pman5595]

not a claim

WHAT IS YOUR CLAIM

[Sotty7]

Fate are you saying you see a link between Thesp and Wick?

Also Wick, it's pretty clear that you are at lynch-1. Stop stalling and claim.

[Fate]

Yes, Sotty, that is what I am implying. If we move ahead with Wicked and he flips scum, I'm going to want to go after him in depth tommorow.

Wicked, this is absurd. You read the thread enough to respond to one post, but you don't see that you are a L-1 and ready to claim?

Need more time to think about the best fakeclaim?

[Ythill]

Heh. I was going to apologize for not checking in yesterday, but it looks like not much has happened here. My access might be a little spotty in the near future, but I should be able to keep up.

Need more time to think about the best fakeclaim?

More likley he needs less time between fake-claim and deadline.

[CrashTextDummie]

Needless to say, I want Wick to claim.

As previously mentioned, I will be gone until Friday, which is somewhat unfortunate timing, as deadline hits in the interim. Vote stays regardless.

[Fate]

Yay working all superbowl week-end. Wow, still no claim? Ok then... *goes back to other games*

[Thesp]

I will hammer if Wickedestjr does not claim with the next post.

[Ythill]

I go out to a coffee shop to get on the internet, and this is all I find? Blech.

[Sotty7]

This is ridiculous.

Wick, where are you?

[Darkstrike_11]

needless to say, prodding wicked hard....

[Wickedestjr]

Okay. Sorry for not posting. I have been extremely busy the last few days. I claim vigilante. My kill didn't go through last night. I targetted pman.

[Leafsnail]

Didn't go through? Are you claiming to have been blocked?

[Fate]

Interesting turn of events.

Perhaps Pman is a godfather...

[pman5595]

Interesting turn of events.

Perhaps Pman is a godfather...

huh? I don''t get how wicked's claim, which i don't believe, btw, would make me the godfather

[pman5595]

sorry for double post.

I don't believe wicked's claim for this reason. This is the train of thought I see.

hmm. What would keep them from lynching me? Oh, a vig claim. Who would they expect me to target? oh yeah, pman. Dang it pman didn't die. I'll have to say the kill didn't go through.

nice try, but not good enough, wick.

[Oman]

I'm considering believing this claim....standby to standby.

unvote

[Darkstrike_11]

Vote Count as of post 495

Wickedestjr (4): pman5595, Ythill, Leafsnail, CrashTextDummie
pman5595 (2): Wickedestjr, Thesp
Moriarty147 (1): Sotty7
Oman (1): Moriarty147
Thesp (1): Fate

Not Voting:


With 10 Players, a majority of 6 is needed for a lynch. The deadline is 2pm, 11th of February 2010
(GMT).

29 hours until deadline. Current lynch is Wickedestjr

[Oman]

Sorry guys, let me go over this: 1. Vig is a dangerous claim. If he's lying and there is a vig, he dies tonight.

2. As a vig he is dangerous to town and scum alike right now, but the game is balanced for him (we hope)

3. if he were scum fakeclaiming, I see him doing it in the early posts. Claiming vig isn't an easy thing, the delay makes sense.

4. The number of NK's gives us a very good indication tomorrow of the truth.

On the Other Hand:
1. SK SK SK SK SK SK
2. SERIAL KILLER
3. The kill not going through is a HUGE coincidence.
4. Lynching him (regardless) gives us another piece of info. If he is SK/vig Pman is either Godfather, Bulletproof, or we have a doctor or roleblocker. Obviously that is not a great advance on where we are now, as that is an easy assumption in a mini normal.
5.

On the hands I've got here: The SK can't afford to keep killing townies. Already if he is an SK: we have (Estimated) 6:1:3 That is getting down to the uncomfortable numbers for an SK. He has to start killing mafia ASAP

AS WELL AS

being smart with his vote (i.e. lynching scum gives him the oportunity to hunt power roles at night. Lynching town means he has to kill scum in the night or be in effecting KILO (Kih-Low, like LYLO but for killing )



I vote we keep him around, but keep an eye on him, if he starts playing silly buggers with his kill or votes, we take him out because then mafia is going to win anyway. If he and we play optimally, killing mafia is the outcome either way.

[Darkstrike_11]

23 hours until deadline. I intend on putting the game to night at exactly 2pm GMT if no lynch is decided upon before then.

[Thesp]

I'm all for pushing for a pman5595 lynch. We've got to act fast either way. I'm kind of surprised Oman didn't put a vote out there after his unvote - what are you thinking at this point?