So the two players I thought were scummiest up until have been killed and flipped town. Third on my list was SP (now RadHi) but I have a few pages to catch up on so we'll see. So here are my notes starting from p12:
evilsnail:
[btw can someone give me the code to post the name bolded instead of the word "quote"? it would take up a lot less room... is there a page where I can find all the BBCode info somewhere? I don't know how to do half this stuff...]
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If we're going to lynch Seven as a matter of policy, we should lynch him asap.
There was a lot of discussion about me being policy lynched. I don't know why, exactly, or if this is even still relevant... Thor and snail were the ones discussing this mostly so maybe one of you could enlighten me on this. I understand the idea that scum might not NK me, but I still don't see why you would want to waste a lynch on town (if you do think I'm town). Anyway I think I'm probably just misunderstanding the situation.
Panzerjager:
Danakills seems to be flailing and since he saw Seven use Player By Player Analysis to get him out of a major hole, has tried to do the same with way less pressure on him. He has pretty much telegraphed his move of using player by player to be considered no longer scummy. This guy is definently scum.
I agree with Panze's logic here, but I don't like that last line. I always think it's weird when someone says "this guy is scum FOR SURE" because it's like trying to make us seem retarded if we don't spot how this guy is so obviously scum. This makes me weary. Especially because after saying this he votes DRK (in the same post, mind). [Just got to the part where Par brings this up... leaving my notes in here anyway]
DRK:
First of all, a PR shouldn't do that because claiming vanilla is likely to get you lynched if you're in claim territory.
But if you claim PR it's pointless, because you will definitely get NKed if you don't get lynched.
I'm a bit doubtful of your case on Thor but looking forward to your thoughts if you can find anything, because he's the only player who's consistently been on my town list the whole game... which maybe should be a blip on my scumdar.
DRK:
I said it's not far from the truth, not that it's "reasonably" the truth. My point is that you've been taking the stance that we should lynch Seven no matter what, which comes off to me as you either trying to mislynch a town-Seven or defend someone else who might come under pressure (or both).
I think this might be misrep... It seemed to me like Thor was trying to get as much discussion going on as possible, I didn't get the feeling like he was trying to lynch me at all costs.
IK:
If you knew it was unfair, then why did you mention it at all? I think Thor's right, you're trying to make it sound as if Thor's suspicious without telling us why.
Ditto.
DRK:
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Anyway, I re-read the game and I'm no longer finding you so scummy. Go figure.
I'm also finding SP scummier again. Go figure.
Seems to me like: "I thought I could find scummy stuff on Thor but didn't really, tried to bait and see if someone else would come up with something for me but it didn't work so I'll just go back to SP because it's easier."
Just as a sidenote, I'm liking most of IKs comments in the latter part of D1.
Par:
If he's ignoring you in his posts, it could be trying to avoid mentioning you because you two are buddies together. But that's speculation that I don't even find relevant at this point. I don't understand how the points you bring up make him seem town to you, either.
The main reason I was "avoiding" (I don't like that word, but ok) DKU was because I did think he was suspicious but while I was around I didn't feel like he was doing anything I could really pin him with.
My vote stays on Cuetl. FoS: danakillsu, evilsnail, DeathRowKitty, Panzerjager, Seven
Seriously? Going into D2 is this still the case?
Cue:
Also, as Parama mentioned, Seven has been inactive since he gave his town reads. Either he is inactive or he is active lurking.
I forget to address this at the beginning of my post, but yeah I was in the hospital all week so obviously couldn't get online.
DRK:
I'm voting him because I think he's scum. I'm not trying to convince anyone else because I tried and it didn't work and I didn't have anything new to work with. Meh, I don't know.
I was interested in your original case on Par and thought you had some valid arguments. Maybe you could go through his ISO again?
DeathSauce:
DeathRow, you're voting me based on my predecessor's posts and trying to tie them to me? If you thought DiamondCrash was scummy, why weren't you voting him before? Indeed, I can't find that you expressed the slightest bit of interest in DC before I replaced him.
You just moved yourself up a half-notch on my scumlist.
I'm getting a bad feel of this post for some reason. Maybe DC/DS need some closer looking into although I don't recall finding very much from my ISO of DC.
IK:
Um... if memory serves I was the first person to call dana out on 1. his horrible case against me, 2. his wishy-washy behavior, and 3. his general misuse of logic. You have provided absolutely nothing original at all, and your attitude reeks of either scum or stupid townie trying to take credit for a lynch you had minimal part in.
*nod*
Cue
So basically you think my case on Seven and SP is scummy? If that is the case, then why did you, in other parts in your ISO, FoS Seven and SP for being possible scum buddies? Aren't you contradicting yourself by adopting elements of my case on 7 and SP, yet at the same time, finding me scummy for the same case?
Probably the most sensible thing Cue brought up all game IMO. I think we should look into Par.
I wrote all this while reading so if I'm saying things that were already said I'm sorry for wasting space. I'll come up with some questions for a few of you later.
