Teleportation Mafia Universe ONE (MAFIA A WINS!)

[popsofctown]

Day 1 Vote Count

CSL ( 1 ) ojanen
DrippingGoofball ( 2 ) Albert B. Rampage plum
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 1 ) Raskol
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
Albert B. Rampage ( 6 ) gayle DrippingGoofball elvis_knits farside22 popsofctown CSL
mykonian ( 0 )
ojanen ( 0 )
plum ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) Hoopla
Raskol ( 2 ) evilsnail mykonian
Rhinox ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) fishythefish Rhinox
Total Votes ( 15 )

With 15 alive, 8 needed to lynch.
Deadline: 2/8 11am

/ghostslay

[Rhinox]

Well, it seems that ABR is going to get lynched.

Unvote; Vote: ABR

...

[popsofctown]

I should have posted that same thing.

And expected to get the same reaction CSL will get.

Except lolnoIwouldnt

[Hoopla]

Pops, why is ABR getting lynched?

[mykonian]

I remember one (last thing with farside), when you said that made me scum. I had quoted a post there where I pointed out what was wrong, and why. I don't think I would do that as scum, aggressively investigating Farside, as I know her a bit. It is kind of foolish to attack farside, since you will get a response. It is her nature.

You talking about the so called case saying I was following people and was full of crap and I called you on and then backtracked and tried to almost subtely use the too townie idea without saying it?

You make it a so called case: because I didn't. I explained my reasons why you moved up my scumlist.

It wasn't full of crap, you didn't reply to half the points, and the FACT that you directly copied two questions in that post are showing I was in fact right. I haven't backtracked, since those points couldn't and werent explained. I have absolutely no idea how I have subtely used the too townie idea there. I don't think you too towny, so that is most likely you trying to read manipulation in my posts. (seen the subtility, you had to search for it)

So this post full of strong language perfectly hides that I had valid points against you.

[Hoopla]

Actually, can I be moved into universe two? They talk a lot less.

thanks in advance

[Fishythefish]

Someone in the other universe needs to quote this

If you lynch first today, you get a confirmed inno with serious scumhunting power tomorrow. DGB has claimed mason, and so far hasn't been counterclaimed. Pull her across and be in a much better position. DP is a decent lynch, no need to hang around 2 days before doing the inevitable.

The following players haven't posted since DGB's claim:
Raskol
Plum
Ojanen
evilsnail
Once they have, it's safe to assume that DGB is real.

I don't have any other strong suspicions right now. Obviously, I'll be trying to get some as a matter of urgency.

[Fishythefish]

@mod

What timezone is the deadline in, please?

[Fishythefish]

EBWOP: ignore that, found it.

[Fishythefish]

By my (unreliable) count, ABR is at L-2. He

must not be lynched yet

. If DGB is real, she can be kept alive for two more days, one in the other universe, one here. Confirmed townies are a Good Thing. DGB's scumhunting ability is a Good Thing. Forcing the scum's hand night three is a Better Thing than doing so on night one. We must wait for the other universe to lynch, or it becomes clear that they cannot do so. Two days is a very long time to get two votes - and we have plenty of active players to cast those votes. Anyone who lets us go into night first gets an automatic vote from me for killing off DGB.

Also, it's important that we are sure there is no counterclaim coming - lynching before all players have posted since DGB's claim would be madness.

I'm not totally comfortable with an ABR lynch - my gut really thinks he's town. If my vote is needed in a deadline situation, I'll do that, but I'd prefer to lynch CSL. EK's points on him are good, and move my read from neutral to scummy.

With the level of activity, and over two days left, this lynch doesn't need to be a panicked rush. We have 8 players around who are prepared to vote ABR, if necessary, in the last 12 hours before the lynch. But atm the deadline isn't an excuse for voting for someone who isn't your top suspect.

[Hoopla]

I'm not totally comfortable with an ABR lynch - my gut really thinks he's town. If my vote is needed in a deadline situation, I'll do that, but I'd prefer to lynch CSL. EK's points on him are good, and move my read from neutral to scummy.

Perhaps your gut is a statistician?

[Fishythefish]

I don't understand?

[Hoopla]

I don't understand?

Just an observation that town gut reads aren't special when there is an 80% chance you'll be right. Unless of course you think the percentages are a lot higher than random. But then again, it's gut, so you don't have to think about it.

[Ojanen]

/no counterclaim post
I have a free evening tonight and can finally read up on everything.

[Fishythefish]

Oh, and

vote: CSL

[DrippingGoofball]

CSL is prob VI-town and may be our teleporter.

[Raskol]

No counterclaim here.

I have mixed feelings about ABR's reaction and would like to hear more from him before I decide what to do.

[DrippingGoofball]

ABR shouted out that my claim was fake, demanded that the "real" mason not counterclaim, and in this post suggested that he KNEW me not to be the mason. Given the paucity of roles in this game, this was to hint that HE may be the mason. That's how I understood it, your mileage may vary. Of course he couldn't be explicit about it because my death would have revealed me to be saying the truth, and the jig would be up had he done more than vaguely hinted in a way that gave him backtrack wiggle room.

Now earlier I suggested that I felt ABR and mykonian were chatting in a QT. I bet they came *this close* to claiming masons but one of them must have come to their senses and realized that they could not me masons within the same universe. Again, your mileage may vary for this particular theory.

Whether you agree with my theories or not, it's still extremely anti-town to yell for the lynch of the claimed mason, one of only two power roles at our disposal, and the while ordering that no one counterclaim (and no one would have been able to without lying and getting caught anyway).

There is no lynch other than ABR today.

Once I'm in the other Universe, I urge you all to evaluate the "cases" against me for their level of crappiness and lack of honesty. There is scum there. Plum's case was the one that stunk the most like a rotten corpse, mykonian's was just awful, pops was opportunistic, fishy at least is acting like a townie now, and Rhinox is sketchy.

I expect two scums on my wagon below:

mykonian
Albert B. Rampage
popsofctown
fishythefish
plum
Rhinox

So 2/3 within ABR, Mykonian and Plum.

KILL THEM.

[elvis_knits]

There is no lynch other than ABR today.

[Fishythefish]

A thought strikes:
If ABR is scum, and gets to L-1, it's in his interests to self hammer to lynch before the other universe, so DGB can be killed off. On no account should anyone vote for him now. In fact, as an insurance against stupidity or wrong vote counts, I'd feel more comfortable if someone unvoted him now.

[zorastermod]

Deadline in 2 days (at 11am EST on Monday).

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Day 1 Vote Count

CSL ( 2 ) ojanen fishythefish
DrippingGoofball ( 2 ) Albert B. Rampage plum
elvis_knits ( 0 )
evilsnail ( 1 ) Raskol
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 0 )
Hoopla ( 0 )
gayle ( 0 )
Albert B. Rampage ( 6 ) gayle DrippingGoofball elvis_knits farside22 popsofctown CSL
mykonian ( 0 )
ojanen ( 0 )
plum ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 1 ) Hoopla
Raskol ( 2 ) evilsnail mykonian
Rhinox ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 1 ) Rhinox
Total Votes ( 15 )

With 15 alive, 8 needed to lynch.
Deadline: 2/8 11am EST

[mykonian]

yep, I see no counterclaim from ABR: he is likely scum. I'll vote, but I'll wait for the other universe (Fishy is right)

[DrippingGoofball]

A thought strikes:
If ABR is scum, and gets to L-1, it's in his interests to self hammer to lynch before the other universe, so DGB can be killed off. On no account should anyone vote for him now. In fact, as an insurance against stupidity or wrong vote counts, I'd feel more comfortable if someone unvoted him now.

unvote

- With promise to re-vote once Universe 2 has lynched.

[DrippingGoofball]

Letter to Universe 2

Dear Universe 2,

Please lynch Jack. It's a no-brainer.

Love,

DGB

[Fishythefish]

Having for the first time actually found time to read a fair amount of U2, I'd add my signature to the above letter.