Mafia 913: Wickedestjr's Mafia - Game Over

[The Quintastic One]

Maybe the mod can award me an emergency double voter ability in mid game so that we can lynch TBM already. ^_^. But Palty Excuse was saying he is waiting on Fat Tony's (insert acronym I don't understand here) before he drops the hammer. So blame Fat Tony. lol.

[StrangerCoug]

While I can still go for a The Quintastic One lynch, I do not have good reason to believe that he and SIR CYANIDE are the same alignment.

We could both be town. You mean 'that both of them are scum'.

No I do not; do not twist my words. I think that if you are town, The Quintastic One is scum and vice versa. You being both town makes little sense to me.

[SIR CYANIDE]

While I can still go for a The Quintastic One lynch, I do not have good reason to believe that he and SIR CYANIDE are the same alignment.

We could both be town. You mean 'that both of them are scum'.

No I do not; do not twist my words. I think that if you are town, The Quintastic One is scum and vice versa. You being both town makes little sense to me.

Us both being town makes perfect sense. I was not twisting your words either, I was assuming that you made a mistake because your current logic is fail.

Remember, town does not know alignments

[Jack]

He's giving his opinion of scumminess. He said "I do not have good reason to believe".

If a cop claims to be sane and accuses someone of being guilty, and that person claims sane cop and accuses the first person of being guilty, it is logically possible that they are both town.

But it wouldn't make perfect sense, and someone making the assumption that they weren't both town wouldn't be failing at logic.

[SIR CYANIDE]

@Jack:

I think that if you are town, The Quintastic One is scum and vice versa. You being both town makes little sense to me.

This is logic fail.

[TheButtonmen]

@Cruelity:

You hate D1? Weird, D1 before PR's come into effect I find quite interesting, espcially the so called RVS. But aside from disagreements over the fun factor of D1, do you want to end D1 out of boredom with it or because you feel we got enough information out of the wagon already for D2?

@SirC:

It isn't logic fail, a statment of belief on who he thinks is scummy based on interactions. Logic fail would be more along the lines of trying to order lynchs because of it.

[SIR CYANIDE]

@SirC:

It isn't logic fail, a statment of belief on who he thinks is scummy based on interactions. Logic fail would be more along the lines of trying to order lynchs because of it.

It is a logic fail because his 'statement of belief' as you like to call it has a foundation of failed logic. If one of them is attacking the other person and that person is town, the other person could as well be town.

[Wickedestjr]

Votecount 13:

TheButtonmen - (6) - AGar, The Quintastic One, Jack, Zhero, Fat_Tony, cruelty
Zang - (2) - PaltryExcuse, Vivi57
The Quintastic One – (1) – TheButtonmen
Sir Cyanide - (1) - StrangerCoug

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: February 11th

[cruelty]

@Cruelity:

You hate D1? Weird, D1 before PR's come into effect I find quite interesting, espcially the so called RVS. But aside from disagreements over the fun factor of D1, do you want to end D1 out of boredom with it or because you feel we got enough information out of the wagon already for D2?

Both.

I feel like at this point your lynch is inevitable, barring some sort of master-stroke case or a huge scumslip. I'm not sure what the hold up is.


I've always hated D1, my meta (if you could read it) would support this, I was in a game with SC where I drew a lot of heat for expressing the same sentiments.

[Zang]

First of all I would like to welcome fat_tony, nothing much else happened. But now I will do a case on tbm. This is tbm in ISO-

-argues with Jack about cop investigating town
-votes tqo with no reasoning
-questions jacks setup
-accuses tqo of sounding scummy everytime he posts
-calls tqo "super new"
-Says that tqo has flawed logic
-tells Jack to vote tqo
-accuses tqo of exajerrating
-criticizes tqo for claiming a power role
-says that everytime tqo is questioned he says how obvtown he Is
-Says that tqo had bad logic (again)
-questions tqo
-says that I am scum with logic that I do not understand
-Calls tqo a liar
-accuses tqo of changing his story
-explains his logic for why he said I was scummy
-admits that he was going for the easy lynch (tqo)
-once again he sais that tqo has changed his story and lied multiple times
-criticizes Jack
-once again calls tqo a liar
-misspells my name
-questions paltry
-defends himself against paltry
-sais that cruelty hates day one

he is obssesed with lynching tqo and is desserving of my vote so

vote:thebuttonmen

and I think that is hammer so goodbye

[PaltryExcuse]

First of all I would like to welcome fat_tony, nothing much else happened. But now I will do a case on tbm. This is tbm in ISO-

-argues with Jack about cop investigating town
-votes tqo with no reasoning
-questions jacks setup
-accuses tqo of sounding scummy everytime he posts
-calls tqo "super new"
-Says that tqo has flawed logic
-tells Jack to vote tqo
-accuses tqo of exajerrating
-criticizes tqo for claiming a power role
-says that everytime tqo is questioned he says how obvtown he Is
-Says that tqo had bad logic (again)
-questions tqo
-says that I am scum with logic that I do not understand
-Calls tqo a liar
-accuses tqo of changing his story
-explains his logic for why he said I was scummy
-admits that he was going for the easy lynch (tqo)
-once again he sais that tqo has changed his story and lied multiple times
-criticizes Jack
-once again calls tqo a liar
-misspells my name
-questions paltry
-defends himself against paltry
-sais that cruelty hates day one

he is obssesed with lynching tqo and is desserving of my vote so

vote:thebuttonmen

and I think that is hammer so goodbye

This is not analysis. This is a summary. This is why you should have been lynched instead.

[TheButtonmen]

-argues with Jack about cop investigating town

False, in fact I was the one who said confirmed town is good

-votes tqo with no reasoning

False, I voted him because of his reaction to pressure

-questions jacks setup

No crap I questioned his setup, he pulled a setup out of thin air in a closed match.

-accuses tqo of sounding scummy everytime he posts

Thats cause he does

-calls tqo "super new"

He is super new

-Says that tqo has flawed logic

His logic is flawed

-tells Jack to vote tqo

I'm noticing a trend here, thses aren't scum tells

-accuses tqo of exajerrating

It's not an exageration, he flat out lied

-criticizes tqo for claiming a power role

Why do you think TQO claimed when he did?

-says that everytime tqo is questioned he says how obvtown he Is

...Go read TQO's posts He does say that everytime.

-Says that tqo had bad logic (again)

This is a scum tell?

-questions tqo

OH NOES!?!!

-says that I am scum with logic that I do not understand

OMGUS?

-Calls tqo a liar

He did lie

-accuses tqo of changing his story

Hence me calling him a liar

-explains his logic for why he said I was scummy

Go OMGUS!

-admits that he was going for the easy lynch (tqo)

False

-once again he sais that tqo has changed his story and lied multiple times

Because he did

.
-criticizes Jack

Why so defensive of Jack?

-once again calls tqo a liar

Thats what I tend to call people who lie

-misspells my name

...Now thats just rediculous

-questions paltry

God forbid we question people!

-defends himself against paltry Y

our scum tells need work

-sais that cruelty hates day one

And here we have proof Zang didn't read the thread

he is obssesed with lynching tqo and is desserving of my vote so

vote:thebuttonmen

and I think that is hammer so goodbye

So glad to see I was right that Zang's scum.

[TheButtonmen]

Also sad to say, Not scum.

But it should be clear that Zang needs a rope tommorow or a bullet tonight, also the irony of Zang considering my misspelling his name as a scum tell in that post is hilarious.

[Zang]

-argues with Jack about cop investigating town

False, in fact I was the one who said confirmed town is good

ok, sorry it's hard telling arguments when I only know what one person said.
-votes tqo with no reasoning

False, I voted him because of his reaction to pressure

yes, but you did not explain that when you wrote it
-questions jacks setup

No crap I questioned his setup, he pulled a setup out of thin air in a closed match.

I never said that was a bad thing
-accuses tqo of sounding scummy everytime he posts

Thats cause he does

I never said he doesn't
-calls tqo "super new"

He is super new

once again I never said he wasn't
-Says that tqo has flawed logic

His logic is flawed

I never said it wasn't
-tells Jack to vote tqo

I'm noticing a trend here, thses aren't scum tells

I never said they were
-accuses tqo of exajerrating

It's not an exageration, he flat out lied

ok , EDIT-accuses tqo of lieng
-criticizes tqo for claiming a power role

Why do you think TQO claimed when he did?

because that was how he reacted to pressure
-says that everytime tqo is questioned he says how obvtown he Is

...Go read TQO's posts He does say that everytime.

I never said he didnt
-Says that tqo had bad logic (again)

This is a scum tell?

I never said they were scum tells
-questions tqo

OH NOES!?!!

look above
-says that I am scum with logic that I do not understand

OMGUS?

-Calls tqo a liar

He did lie

I never said he didn't
-accuses tqo of changing his story

Hence me calling him a liar

I never said you didn't
-explains his logic for why he said I was scummy

Go OMGUS!

you did do it
-admits that he was going for the easy lynch (tqo)

False

My mistake
-once again he sais that tqo has changed his story and lied multiple times

Because he did

.I never said he didn't
-criticizes Jack

Why so defensive of Jack?

I'm not
-once again calls tqo a liar

Thats what I tend to call people who lie

I never dais he wasn't
-misspells my name

...Now thats just rediculous

ISO 29 zhang
-questions paltry

God forbid we question people!

you did it
-defends himself against paltry Y

our scum tells need work

I never said it was a scum tell
-sais that cruelty hates day one

And here we have proof Zang didn't read the thread

?

he is obssesed with lynching tqo and is desserving of my vote so

vote:thebuttonmen

and I think that is hammer so goodbye

So glad to see I was right that Zang's scum.

I never said it was a list of scumtells or an analysis I just said that it was tbm in ISO.it was like what tqo did a few pages ago with the whole thread but I just did tbm.

[PaltryExcuse]

Zang: Why didn't you wait? TWO other players other than yourself were catching up (AGar and Fat_Tony). What purpose was there in ending the day now?

[StrangerCoug]

@SirC:

It isn't logic fail, a statment of belief on who he thinks is scummy based on interactions. Logic fail would be more along the lines of trying to order lynchs because of it.

It is a logic fail because his 'statement of belief' as you like to call it has a foundation of failed logic. If one of them is attacking the other person and that person is town, the other person could as well be town.

Both of you have independently committed scummy actions, so stop calling my not considering both of you to be town a logical failure. You are a hypocrite and The Quintastic One is a OMGUS'y rolefisher.

[TheButtonmen]

I never said it was a list of scumtells or an analysis I just said that it was tbm in ISO.it was like what tqo did a few pages ago with the whole thread but I just did tbm.

Why would you bother making that list then if your hammering me? It seems your just trying to make some flimsy reason so at to apper to have a reason for the hammer.

[TheButtonmen]

Paltry Pre-Hammer:

At this point, Tony's PBPA is all I'm waiting for before I hammer.

Paltry Post-Hammer:

Blah blah blah

This is not analysis. This is a summary. This is why you should have been lynched instead.

Don't let him distance himself from my lynch that easily. He went from just waiting for people to post before hammering me, to saying we should have lynched someone else.

[PaltryExcuse]

Paltry Pre-Hammer:

You're not my strongest scum read (that's still Zang), but you're definitely up there.

It wasn't distancing. I still look back and find you scummy. You're just not top of the list and I would've much rather have lynched the person who I am currently voting for.
However, after everyone had weighed in I would have lynched you due to deadline / my scummy read on you. I don't disapprove of the hammer, I disapprove of the post summary instead of anaylsis and the timing.

[SIR CYANIDE]

-_____________-

Great fucking job Zang.

[The Quintastic One]

-argues with Jack about cop investigating town

False, in fact I was the one who said confirmed town is good

-votes tqo with no reasoning

False, I voted him because of his reaction to pressure

-questions jacks setup

No crap I questioned his setup, he pulled a setup out of thin air in a closed match.

-accuses tqo of sounding scummy everytime he posts

Thats cause he does

-calls tqo "super new"

He is super new

-Says that tqo has flawed logic

His logic is flawed

-tells Jack to vote tqo

I'm noticing a trend here, thses aren't scum tells

-accuses tqo of exajerrating

It's not an exageration, he flat out lied

-criticizes tqo for claiming a power role

Why do you think TQO claimed when he did?

-says that everytime tqo is questioned he says how obvtown he Is

...Go read TQO's posts He does say that everytime.

-Says that tqo had bad logic (again)

This is a scum tell?

-questions tqo

OH NOES!?!!

-says that I am scum with logic that I do not understand

OMGUS?

-Calls tqo a liar

He did lie

-accuses tqo of changing his story

Hence me calling him a liar

-explains his logic for why he said I was scummy

Go OMGUS!

-admits that he was going for the easy lynch (tqo)

False

-once again he sais that tqo has changed his story and lied multiple times

Because he did

.
-criticizes Jack

Why so defensive of Jack?

-once again calls tqo a liar

Thats what I tend to call people who lie

-misspells my name

...Now thats just rediculous

-questions paltry

God forbid we question people!

-defends himself against paltry Y

our scum tells need work

-sais that cruelty hates day one

And here we have proof Zang didn't read the thread

he is obssesed with lynching tqo and is desserving of my vote so

vote:thebuttonmen

and I think that is hammer so goodbye

So glad to see I was right that Zang's scum.

No, I didn't lie. I am town. But you're lynched, and scum or not, I couldn't be happier. Have a nice day you stupid fucker.

[PaltryExcuse]

No, I didn't lie. I am town. But you're lynched, and scum or not, I couldn't be happier. Have a nice day you stupid fucker.

You're seriously crossing the line, especially for someone who protested being attacked like this earlier in the game.

[StrangerCoug]

Why do I want to pull my hair out of my head?

[Zhero]

I never said it was a list of scumtells or an analysis I just said that it was tbm in ISO.it was like what tqo did a few pages ago with the whole thread but I just did tbm.

So if that's just a summary, why did you hammer? What was your rationale?

No, I didn't lie. I am town. But you're lynched, and scum or not, I couldn't be happier. Have a nice day you stupid fucker.

Whoa, calm down. He just claimed townie after the hammer. Gloating over the mislynch?

[AGar]

Why do I want to pull my hair out of my head?

Because this was possibly one of the most awful D1s ever?