SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[Amished]

I have no excuse for my vote on wolf. I misread his posts :/ Go ahead, lynch me for it. I dare you.

I like dares.

Also, I don't like setting up lynches.

Unvote
Vote: Parama

Sorry Ray; maybe this time you can join me! <3

[wolframnhart]

Even if it was a misread on me that made Parama vote me, not about to lynch someone right now just because they dare people. I still like my Richard vote, why people have glossed over and not really said much about him voting someone just because he feels like it, especially when he said he wanted to hammer syke or Doc doesn't scream "town player" to me.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

DocPotter (7): Riceballtail, Nul, Fishythefish, SaintKerrigan, Kairyuu, Parama, sykedoc
Parama (3): Sanhora, LlamaFluff, Amished
Riceballtail (1): DocPotter
RichardGHP (1): wolframnhart
sykedoc (8): Anon, DeathNote, Starbuck, MafiaSSK, RayFrost, Rifka Viveka, Pomegranate, RichardGHP
Not voting (5): Bogre, My Milked Eek, xRECKONERx, animorpherv1, tubby216

With

25

players alive, it takes

13

votes to lynch.

MafiaSSK, tubby216, Nul, and animorpherv1 are prodded. This is the second time I've had to prod MafiaSSK and Nul.

[animorpherv1]

I've given up on reading Fishy's posts, and walls o' text. Richard's PR is definatley readable. 9This is why), but Richard doesn't seem to either have an FoS, or is trying to getaway with voting someone for no reasons past the RVS. Which is scummy, so

vote: Richard

. On the DP/skyedoc cases, I'd rather lynched DP that skye, who seems to have gotten his but in gear, IMO.

[Bogre]

I'm actually leaning more towards the thought that Docpotter was being easy towards mislynch, or possibly coaching Syke, in their connection.

I've been debating this for a bit: Syke's case was based on a lot of meta, but he seemed to fulfill that meta case to my thoughts that he was playing similarly to what he had done before, despite claims to the contrary. It's my opinion that it's escalation beyond the initial meta(which is meta and less worthwhile to begin with), without much reason.

Vote Docpotter

[Amished]

... Really Bogre? You're supporting a meta defense (and ignoring the non-meta implications of a case) without actually putting the meta forth yourself. Hell, I'd take a bet that you didn't even read the linked material in any case. Furthermore, if somebody was so aware of himself (and his meta) as Syke so obviously is, don't you think that it'd be that much easier to replicate said meta?

tl; dr version: Bogre, you're either an idiot or scum. Right now I'm leaning towards the latter. Also: META IS FOOKING WORTHLESS ON ALL ACCOUNTS.

[RayFrost]

unvote, vote: bogre

'nuff said.

[Amished]

Yeah, hell with superficialness.

Unvote
Vote: Bogre

Llama, let's turn this game around

[Bogre]

... Really Bogre? You're supporting a meta defense (and ignoring the non-meta implications of a case) without actually putting the meta forth yourself. Hell, I'd take a bet that you didn't even read the linked material in any case. Furthermore, if somebody was so aware of himself (and his meta) as Syke so obviously is, don't you think that it'd be that much easier to replicate said meta?

tl; dr version: Bogre, you're either an idiot or scum. Right now I'm leaning towards the latter. Also: META IS FOOKING WORTHLESS ON ALL ACCOUNTS.

I believe my statements were 'meta is bad, the continued noise is too'.

[Bogre]

In essence, since you seem to have misunderstood me: The -only- redeeming factor of the case on him was that he, at the beginning of this game, claimed to be playing differently but that he seemed, to me at least, to be playing exactly the same. I'm not supporting that case.

Plus, Amished, wtf are you talking about? Why would he want to replicate said meta if the case on him was that he was playing -too- his meta and that he was scum in the other game?

[Pomegranate]

9This is why)[...]

The first and last letters aren't in they're places, so I don't think this applies; I still find it a pain to read. If he has a drunk PR, he can do what FB did in Family Guy Mafia, as linked to by Llama. That's a great readable thing to do that follows the PR.

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Parama's "Haha, lynch me- I dare you!" is extremely scummy. Dares like these never end well for town.

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On Bogre:

tl; dr version: Bogre, you're either an idiot or scum. Right now I'm leaning towards the latter. Also: META IS FOOKING WORTHLESS ON ALL ACCOUNTS.

This is true, but having played with Bogre before, I could see it being the former.

--

Fos: Parama, Bogre

. I'm still happy with the Syke wagon for now.

Longer post tomorrow, if I have time.

[MafiaSSK]

Modérateur, s'il vous plaît me remplacer.

Je suis désolé mais j'ai une politique destinée à remplacer au bout de mon second Prod de ces derniers temps.

[StrangerCoug]

Modérateur, s'il vous plaît me remplacer.

Je suis désolé mais j'ai une politique destinée à remplacer au bout de mon second Prod de ces derniers temps.

Will do.

In addition, Kairyuu's computer is broken and he is therefore in indefinite V/LA. I hope he can check this thread at least check periodically.

[RayFrost]

Woo hoo, replacement central... :/

[Amished]

[1]I'm actually leaning more towards the thought that Docpotter was being easy towards mislynch, or possibly coaching Syke, in their connection.

[2]I've been debating this for a bit: Syke's case was based on a lot of meta, but he seemed to fulfill that meta case to my thoughts that he was playing similarly to what he had done before, despite claims to the contrary. [3]It's my opinion that it's escalation beyond the initial meta(which is meta and less worthwhile to begin with), without much reason.

Vote Docpotter

1) This doesn't make sense as any combination of the two beyond town-town or scum-scum; and the former (t-t) only if they trusted each other; which obviously isn't the case. Coaching doesn't work unless you can be fairly certain (or know) the other persons alignment and can trust their judgement.

2) You FOOKING ignore all of the valid points against Syke; relegating it ALL to meta. I know I don't give a shit about meta; and it's never been a consideration for me at all. So that's pure and unadulterated BS.

Secondly, if you think that the meta discussion is noise (3; and post 609), why are you attributing a positive read to him for bringing it up sufficiently?

In essence, since you seem to have misunderstood me:

The -only- redeeming factor of the case on him was that he, at the beginning of this game, claimed to be playing differently

but that

he seemed, to me at least, to be playing exactly the same.

I'm not supporting that case.

Plus, Amished, wtf are you talking about? Why would he want to replicate said meta if the

case on him was that he was playing -too- his meta and that he was scum in the other game

?

Bolding and italics are mine.

Regarding the italics, you're still "redeeming him" for bringing up meta which you call noise (and therefore should be a nulltell in your book).

Regarding the bold, if you had a consistent stance on meta (which seems pretty clear that you don't); this should be damning of him. If he's playing the same as scum, then wouldn't he more likely be scum? But nope, he's more townie for bringing up that he's playing differently (when you say that he isn't).



tl;dr: ITT Bogre scorns meta, attributes town points for bringing up meta in defense; when said meta matches Bogre's view of Syke-scum when all of this should be null in his book.

[RichardGHP]

Richard, why are you scared of parama?

"he will rip a cast to shredz along with you"? If that ever discouraged anybody, I'll eat a shoe.

I also highly advise you to use forbiddan's style of drunk posting if possible, your mix and match crap isn't fun to get through at all.

- Have you SHEEN hish meta?
- lol
- Shorry. I shall try to posht a little bit more comprehenshively.

"tl; dr version: Bogre, you're either an idiot or scum. Right now I'm leaning towards the latter. Also: META IS FOOKING WORTHLESS ON ALL ACCOUNTS."

Bogre ish no idiot. Sho he musht be shcum.

unvote vote: Bogre

.

Btw: Thish is a new shkill level over what I'm ushed to, sho a drunk PR ish a shtrange conshept to me, one that should be hard to shucshessfully pull off. Pleashe bear with me.

[DocPotter]

Bogre, in what way was I coaching? Please spell it out for me.

(Playing catch-up)

Richard, much more readable.

[Amished]

@Richard: funny, bringing up meta. There are a couple "names" around here that I respect and only one person that I have a meta with due to the fact that I've played in about 7-8 games, and hydra'd a large normal with over the course of my tenure here. Everything else with meta is bogus to me. However, thank you for being a bit more readable.

[Bogre]

@Amished:

1. Not giving him a positive evaluation. Giving him a 'Docpotter seems more likely scum' evaluation.

2. What are the 'valid points' you're latched on to? On my large reread I got a bit lost in the gigantic amount of noise that was the Syke case, and I put it down as mostly too-escalated and sinuous to have lost any real meaning.

3, I'm not fucking redeeming him for bringing up his meta, I'm -implicating- him. You have either failed to comprehend my post, or are simply blatantly misrepresenting me.

4.

If he's playing the same as scum, then wouldn't he more likely be scum?

What you are suggesting is a meta case, which you have said to 'not give a shit about' and that its 'never been a consideration'. Obviously it has been a consideration for you, since you are bringing it up and trying to attack me with it. Explain that, please.


To Everyone: AMISHED TL:DR, and moreover much of the rest of his recent posts, are WHOLLY and COMPLETELY INCORRECT in its presentation of what I was saying.

Here is a better statement: Bogre thinks meta cases are weak, attributes scum points to Syke for claiming to play against meta (when repeating actions). Bogre got lost in the massive amounts of ink spilled, gained impression of futility of teasing out a good read at the moment, decided that Docpotter's reactions to the Syke wagon were scummy, votes Docpotter.

Amished's views on my statements should be discounted, because they are incorrect and misleading.

[Nul]

Yepyep.
Just posting to let you guys know I'm still here, but I really don't want to post that much in case the scum kills me off at night... You know, the people who talk the most and seems to be doing the most for townie gets killed off first in such a large game as this.
Hopefully I won't die because of this comment but I will be more active as the game gets smaller that is if I'm still alive by then.

With that said... Goodluck fellow townies!









No I'm kidding. If I just disappeared again, I would most likely get replaced.
To those who suspect me, can you explain in more detail than "I think his scummy, no his a newb townie, hm I'm not sure I'll go for scummy... On second thoughts newb townie, haha I just wrote all this yet I have not explained why I even suspect him lololol".

[StrangerCoug]

FeFiFoFum replaces MafiaSSK.

[Parama]

Unvote
Vote: Parama

Unvote
Vote: Bogre

this is a sub

2

4

-hour turnaround

Plus the fact that you made this post calling out Bogre, then didn't vote him, but when Ray does vote him, you instantly jump on the wagon... were you waiting for another player's reaction before deciding whether you could get away with a Bogre wagon without looking scummy?
Though I like the expansion of your case on Bogre further down the page a lot. Like I said, meta-based attacks and defenses are both equally worthless. That's a pretty big contradiction on his part :/

FoS: Amished, Bogre

[tubby216]

vote: docpotter

[Amished]

@parama: I decided that I believed more in my own case than in Llama's, and I know and trust RayFrost as well.

@Bogre: *chuckle* ok, let me see if I get this straight then:

1. Not giving him a positive evaluation. Giving him a 'Docpotter seems more likely scum' evaluation.

So you're giving somebody that you barely talked about more scumpoints than somebody that you are

I'm not fucking redeeming him for bringing up his meta, I'm -implicating- him.

"implicating" for bringing up meta.

And now it is you that I feel is not understanding my point: I don't care if he really reads the same to you or not as another game. You are attributing pro-town points (by not voting syke, when you barely mention doc) basically for only defending himself with meta (as that's probably about 90% of his defensive contribution this game).

If you want to look at a small part of the non-meta points, I suggest you ISO me for my case on him. Apparently you missed that completely as I talked about it twice after seeing the whole attack be dismissed due to meta after I voted and posted my case against him by somebody else.

[Rifka Viveka]

ITT fishy attempts derail on docsyke case

amished>bogre

parama gains massive scum points

tubby216 anything to add to your vote?

tl;dr version:scum, scum everywhere and not a vig to shoot. Why is everyone replacing out btw?