SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[sykedoc]

Skye. Perhaps you should be reading.

I post that I will be absent for a day or two, kyle makes the post that you quote, and then I responded to it when I came back. You know that post you quoted where Kyle said I should claim.

Of course if he had read the game he would have seen me say that I am town. Asking for a claim when I have is a good sign that he's not reading the game isn't it?

So why are you really voting that way. Worried that Starbuck is starting to pin you down and you want to jump the biggest wagon to stop yours forming?
For that matter, why the change from your claimed fence sitting normal style of play since you also said that fence sitting seems to work for you?

My reason stands. His missing of your post isn't a scumtell, it means he's lazy.

[Starbuck]

Like I said: I don't see my vote on Anon going anywhere.

I still believe he's scummy but there doesn't seem to be anybody who agrees.

Umm...What?

Didn't it already move somewhere new? Or did you just forget?

[sykedoc]

Like I said: I don't see my vote on Anon going anywhere.

I still believe he's scummy but there doesn't seem to be anybody who agrees.

Umm...What?

Didn't it already move somewhere new? Or did you just forget?

Twisting of words Starbuck. I mean the vote isn't going to cause anyone to change their minds. As in my case doesn't have supporters.

[Pomegranate]

Pom: The only Post restrictions I've seen before this game are more along the lines of number of words per post or number of posts per day. These would be hard to detect.
Such blatant restrictions as language or color are new to me.
How common are they in bastard games? Clearly Ani thought they would be more subtle, so why don't you?

I've seen both types of PRs. But I don't see how it would benefit scum that much to know which players have post restrictions. But I could see a role that needed to know PRs for some reason or another (especially in a Bastard game, because Bastard games are known to have weird or complicated roles).

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unvote.

I don't think that Nul still deserves my vote. But maybe he should post more.

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Starbuck, it doesn't change the fact he avoided doing so for an extensive period of time until pressured to do so.

I believe that's called scumthatwantalynchtogothroughandwillsupportitwhilenotactivelymakingithappenbyvotingtheperson

Yes- I find this very scummy. He pushed for a wagon/lynch on a player that he didn't find the scummiest, but when he was pressured, he switched his vote. The original act was scummy, and the fact that he only did the logical thing after being pressured to was also very scummy.

RF, I call it:

scumthatwantalynchtogothroughandwillsupportitwhilenotactivelymakingithappenbyvotingthepersonbecauseheknowsthatthewagonisonatownieandwantstoweaseloutoftroublelater

[sykedoc]

Yes- I find this very scummy. He pushed for a wagon/lynch on a player that he didn't find the scummiest, but when he was pressured, he switched his vote. The original act was scummy, and the fact that he only did the logical thing after being pressured to was also very scummy.

RF, I call it:

scumthatwantalynchtogothroughandwillsupportitwhilenotactivelymakingithappenbyvotingthepersonbecauseheknowsthatthewagonisonatownieandwantstoweaseloutoftroublelater

Isn't this doing the same thing since you aren't voting for me?

I switched for the reasons stated. Nobody is helping me on my case, its a wasted vote.

[RayFrost]

Pome, I gave the concise version.

Since it doesn't stretch the page.

[RayFrost]

Isn't this doing the same thing since you aren't voting for me?

I switched for the reasons stated. Nobody is helping me on my case, its a wasted vote.

Nope.

Nope.

You switched votes because you realized that you couldn't get an easy lynch on anon or leave your vote sitting there to avoid attention, so you changed your vote to the DP wagon to help promote the lynch you said you supported but weren't voting after you were pressured.

This is scumwantingtoavoidseemingscummyandhenceeasilybendingtopressure

It's also scumthatdoesnothaveconvictionabouttherecaseandishenceeasytobendwithpressure

[sykedoc]

Isn't this doing the same thing since you aren't voting for me?

I switched for the reasons stated. Nobody is helping me on my case, its a wasted vote.

Nope.

Nope.

You switched votes because you realized that you couldn't get an easy lynch on anon or leave your vote sitting there to avoid attention, so you changed your vote to the DP wagon to help promote the lynch you said you supported but weren't voting after you were pressured.

This is scumwantingtoavoidseemingscummyandhenceeasilybendingtopressure

It's also scumthatdoesnothaveconvictionabouttherecaseandishenceeasytobendwithpressure

Ok, so I should have kept my vote on a case that was not gaining any steam and likely to not go anywhere?

Situation 1)
I vote on the initial DP wagon: You would all yell at me and say I bandwagon

Situation 2)
I keep my vote on Anon: You all yell at me and say my case sucks and I'm being opportunistic

Situation 3)
I swap vote to DP: You all yell at me and say I'm collapsing to pressure as scum.

Can you see why this whole roundabout is stupid.
Just flippin lynch me if you're after that. There's really no direction I can go in where you won't pull my pants down and yell SCUM!!!!!

[DocPotter]

Skye, you sound like you are making a deadline compromise vote. That you are doing so with 2 weeks or so before deadline is not a townie thing.

[RayFrost]

You should've pushed your case further OR switched before it was brought up as an issue.

You act

after

things become issues but not before, which is scummy.

Now go, try to grapple with how concise I'm being!

[sykedoc]

Skye, you sound like you are making a deadline compromise vote. That you are doing so with 2 weeks or so before deadline is not a townie thing.

NOBODY else is with me on Anon. Not a single person. I call that not gaining any steam since I've been voting for him for at least 3 or 4 days IRL.

[sykedoc]

You should've pushed your case further

Situation 2)
I keep my vote on Anon: You all yell at me and say my case sucks and I'm being opportunistic

OR switched before it was brought up as an issue

Situation 1)
I vote on the initial DP wagon: You would all yell at me and say I bandwagon

You act

after

things become issues but not before, which is scummy.

Now go, try to grapple with how concise I'm being!

[sykedoc]

I feel many of you are not well informed on common behaviors of mine:

Frustration and Bending to pressure being common:

See Here-
viewtopic.php?t=7827

viewtopic.php?t=7668

viewtopic.php?t=6317

Read up kids.

[RayFrost]

You are bringing in assumptions about what we'd have done. Presumptuous action in order to counteract any and all arguments in the "no matter what I do, you think I'm scum!" crybaby AtE format

If you had voted on the initial DP wagon reasonlessly, then, yes, you'd be scummy.

If you provided reasons, you wouldn't be.

If you had kept your vote and presented your case and stuck with your guns, you'd be a guy that waas confident in his case.

Bam, not scummy.

[RayFrost]

Meta-defenses are ftl.

You are still scummy.

[sykedoc]

Meta-defenses are ftl.

You are still scummy.

Considering there's a few people who agree with a meta case against me, it isn't lame defense as some of my habits shown are common in town scenarios making the meta case somewhat invalid.

Defending Meta with Meta makes sense.

[sykedoc]

You are bringing in assumptions about what we'd have done. Presumptuous action in order to counteract any and all arguments in the "no matter what I do, you think I'm scum!" crybaby AtE format

I assure you this might not be the case outside of a few people. I was already under a microscope when the DP wagon started, and the reasons had already been stated. I would have had nothing new to contribute, which according to many people is riding coattails.

[My Milked Eek]

Those lame meta cases are still going?
D:

[Starbuck]

You act

after

things become issues but not before, which is scummy.

This.

[Starbuck]

Those lame meta cases are still going?
D:

Nope. At least not for me, I'm voting for sykedoc due to all the scummy things he has done in THIS game. The meta is a good reference, but it's not why my vote is there.

[Amished]

Unvote
Vote: Sykedoc

Namely 507; where he takes a position that he thinks that everything he does, the rest of the players will think as scummy. Because he can't see the townie side of anything, he didn't do anything until pressured. This signals to me that he's not a townie as he can't even think that him continuing to play like "normal" would absolve him, especially with the low amount of pressure that was really applied to him at the time.

I don't even care that he's softclaimed a power role earlier, scum get them too. His actions say scum.

[RayFrost]

<3 Amished.

[Amished]

<3 Johnny Dep... RayFrost

[RayFrost]

<3 Johnny Dep... RayFrost

We need to be in more games together.

[Amished]

I had a lot of fun in a hydra role, we could do that if you're up for it. I don't know if I have the time for another full game at the moment; but a half-game wouldn't be too bad. You do play a lot different than I do, so it might be interesting to see how you play "behind the pirate accent".