SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[tubby216]

Sup mah homiez Ray and Reck.

Ok, so if it wasn't for the "townsperson" title under Rifka; I'd vote for .. him? right now. With the meta attack being the biggest scumread; I still might. Datadanne didn't do anything that I remember; so I wouldn't doubt scum in that spot either.

I abhor tubby's unvote (voted for pressure reasons, blah blah blah). So what reasons did you {Tubby} get that made you feel he's town now? (BTW, numbers count across all languages, so you can just do ISO or regular post numbers.)

Eu não me unvote devido à descoberta da cidade Anon. Eu unvted porque eu estou relendo e pode colocar o meu voto em outro lugar.

[Amished]

So you basically unvoted so that *just in case* you can put your vote on somebody other than the person you found most scummy so far.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Anon (1): sykedoc
DocPotter (10): LlamaFluff, wolframnhart, kyle99, Nul, Fishythefish, SaintKerrigan, RayFrost, Kairyuu, Parama, Amished
Nul (1): Pomegranate
Parama (2): Sanhora, RichardGHP
SaintKerrigan (1): Rifka Viveka
sykedoc (3): Anon, DeathNote, Starbuck
Not voting (7): Bogre, MafiaSSK, My Milked Eek, xRECKONERx, DocPotter, animorpherv1, tubby216

With

25

players alive, it takes

13

votes to lynch.

[SaintKerrigan]

My top suspects from a skimming of the thread are SK and sykedoc

townSK has played more aggressive in the past, and with less lurking. Specificly reference open 192(which i note isnt in his wiki but he did play in it) and i would bring up more references if i had search\wasnt lazy. i find it interesting in 182 he defends sykedoc for doing something he himself is doing.

sykedocs list of scummy actions is to numerous to repeat

docpotter doesnt look like scum to me. AFAIK the entire case on him starts with this post of his:

SSK, Tubby. Out of interest are you two in a quick chat of any sort and if so do your Post Restriction still aply?

pretty thin^

Unvote Vote saintkerrigan

Do you happen to be an alt? Just curious that your basis for voting me is based on a game which isn't in my wiki.

Open #192 isn't in my wiki because I replaced out of it (and I don't keep games that I replaced out of in my wiki). I believe I've already stated that I've had trouble reading this game. I'm even considering replacing out because of it. It has nothing to do with my alignment.

Why is it interesting that I defended Sykedoc for not having a lot of reads early in the game?

Also, that's quite the generalization, to say Sykedoc committed lots of scummy actions without bothering to give at least a few examples of what you think is scummy.

[Rifka Viveka]

basis for voting me is based on a game which isn't in my wiki.

That is not the basis for voting you. Its the basis for a red flag on your name, which them makes me say, hmm this is suspicious. Then looknig at your actions in this game, which are lack of scumhunting, not being able to read it, excuses, blah blah

I believe I've already stated that I've had trouble reading this game

I think thats scummy(not to try)

Why is it interesting that I defended Sykedoc for not having a lot of reads early in the game?

In specific your defending an action i view as scummy, in general it looks like writing yourself a check to keep lurking.

I believe I've already stated that I've had trouble reading this game. I'm even considering replacing out because of it.

The games i have a hard time getting a handle on? Ive been scum. So it is relevant to your alignment that your not being particularly protown-a point you seem to concede in your own post.

[SaintKerrigan]

I think thats scummy(not to try)

Isn't the fact that I'm still in this game evidence that I am in fact trying?

In specific your defending an action i view as scummy, in general it looks like writing yourself a check to keep lurking.

<shrugs> Well, how am I supposed to defend against a difference of opinion, beyond saying I don't view it as scummy not to have a lot of reads early in the game.

The games i have a hard time getting a handle on? Ive been scum. So it is relevant to your alignment that your not being particularly protown-a point you seem to concede in your own post.

Just because you have a hard time getting a handle on games as scum does not mean that I suffer the same problem. I think this is an erroneous argument, here.

[RichardGHP]

Oh look it's Richard. Another player on my Policy Lynch list. But I'm not policy lynching right now.

it taesk 13 vote forr a lyhnc llo nd wyh shud i b polyic lyhcned cuz of ma scumeta????

btwi dk if aec idi dis btu

unvote parama

god hotse tasg r a lota wrok loool

[Starbuck]

Richard, why the sudden switch to a post restriction?

[sykedoc]

Richard, why the sudden switch to a post restriction?

^this

[Rifka Viveka]

Just because you have a hard time getting a handle on games as scum does not mean that I suffer the same problem. I think this is an erroneous argument, here.

Nope, all players handle the challenge of being scum and fake scumhunting slightly differently from being town. Its not even an argument, its just a little side point i was referencing which you latch onto.

There has been a few players that gained and lost PR in this game. Nul i believe it was, replaced by amish, said he could only post 4 word sentences and amish isnt under that restriction. Im curious.

[Parama]

There has been a few players that gained and lost PR in this game. Nul i believe it was, replaced by amish, said he could only post 4 word sentences and amish isnt under that restriction. Im curious.

I'm not sure if Nul was the one who said that, but whoever did also added that they were joking about the PR.

[LlamaFluff]

Do you get modkilled if you break your PR?
Do you get a warning if you break your PR?
What is the warning if one exists?
What is your role name?
What is the flavor behind your role?
Are there any limitations on quoting?
Describe your PR in as much detail as possible

For RGPH to answer

I call BS on this one though given the openendedness

[Rifka Viveka]

Edit:actually it was dedicatedsribes post 127 i was referring to who was replaced by amished. Sorry for the error

[Amished]

Dedicated was a moron if he said he/we have a post restriction. I don't.

[sykedoc]

Dedicated was a moron if he said he/we have a post restriction. I don't.

Regardless, there is more than likely a reason for him to say so.

[RichardGHP]

Do you get modkilled if you break your PR?
Do you get a warning if you break your PR?
What is the warning if one exists?
What is your role name?
What is the flavor behind your role?
Are there any limitations on quoting?
Describe your PR in as much detail as possible

For RGPH to answer

I call BS on this one though given the openendedness

it's rghp not rgph n00b

uh i dun remebrem mcuh abiut mt roole btu i thik tere was somtehign abuot teh mods dreemz n how i haev too stop htem

wyh so mnayy qeusoitns///??//

[LlamaFluff]

Do you get modkilled if you break your PR?
Do you get a warning if you break your PR?
What is the warning if one exists?
What is your role name?
What is the flavor behind your role?
Are there any limitations on quoting?
Describe your PR in as much detail as possible

For RGPH to answer

I call BS on this one though given the openendedness

it's rghp not rgph n00b

uh i dun remebrem mcuh abiut mt roole btu i thik tere was somtehign abuot teh mods dreemz n how i haev too stop htem

wyh so mnayy qeusoitns///??//

Answer the questions, look at your role, as questions to the mod if you need to in order to answer a few of them.

[sykedoc]

wyh so mnayy qeusoitns///??//

Because its sketchy when your PR comes out of nowhere.

[Amished]

He was just being stupid (Dedicated). There's no post restriction, nor has there ever been one for my slot.

[Amished]

ALSO: Why the FOOK are we worrying about post restrictions now that we know who has them? It's a great distraction for scum to look active WITHOUT SCUMHUNTING. Fooking look for scum or I park my vote on every single one of you.

[Pomegranate]

I need to read up. Hopefully I'll have a chance to read and make a post tonight.

[sykedoc]

He was just being stupid (Dedicated). There's no post restriction, nor has there ever been one for my slot.

Fair enough. Still keeping it in mind, but I know I've been the victim of a stupid predecessor before.

[LlamaFluff]

ALSO: Why the FOOK are we worrying about post restrictions now that we know who has them? It's a great distraction for scum to look active WITHOUT SCUMHUNTING. Fooking look for scum or I park my vote on every single one of you.

Forcing the PR to throw as much information as possible at us to start allows the greatest chance to catch someone who is just faking a PR to get away with suboptimal contribution. In the event of a PR that is hard to nail down (like ace) it makes a lot of sense to get to the bottom of it. "talk in french" is concrete. "talk in pink" is concrete. "talk like an ass" is not concrete, which makes it less likely to be true since its hard to enforce since people have different views of what that is.

[MafiaSSK]

Vote Sykedoc

[Amished]

Ok, so now that you've asked the same questions to 4? people, it's pretty damn easy to just copy the answers which isn't doing a damn thing for scumhunting. "Talk like an ass" is at least English and doesn't leave much room for any ambiguity where the languages do (due to translators both back and forward).

So I say deal and judge his reactions and motivations for said reactions.