Mini 910 - Empire Records Mafia ~Over~

[Nikanor]

Anyway, Papa Zito requested death, so I'm shooting excedrin instead.

Boo.

[RayFrost]

That's true. But you're still an ass.

Also, this game is weiiiird.

You wish I was an a-, oh wait.

[RayFrost]

Anyway, when the town ends up with a win, you can thank me.

btw, reck claimed kise is lucas with one-shot BP, right?

kise said he is one shot BP or fully BP?

if kise is fully BP, reck fakeclaimed that shit.

[Papa Zito]

Anyway, when the town ends up with a win, you can thank me.

btw, reck claimed kise is lucas with one-shot BP, right?

kise said he is one shot BP or fully BP?

if kise is fully BP, reck fakeclaimed that shit.

I don't know. I'm still confused about Kise.

[Nikanor]

The nailbiting emote means Kise is one-shot but wants to remain thought of as fully bulletproof.

[Nikanor]

Also, if Kise was full bulletproof he would have just come out and said it and proved Reck a liar.

[RayFrost]

okay then.

[kyle99]

okay then.

Have you shot anyone today?

[Papa Zito]

...

Really? You picked Excedrin over this guy?

[xRECKONERx]

okay then.

Have you shot anyone today?

kyle99, buddy, Imma let you finish and all but...

You should consider just not playing Mafia. If you can't keep up in a 18 page game that's only on D3 you don't have much hope.

[kyle99]

okay then.

Have you shot anyone today?

kyle99, buddy, Imma let you finish and all but...

You should consider just not playing Mafia. If you can't keep up in a 18 page game that's only on D3 you don't have much hope.

Yes, he said he was going to shoot Excedrin, but saying "I'm going to shoot Excedrin" is different then "I shot Excedrin".

[RayFrost]

We can lynch kyle.

[Nikanor]

Yeah, we could. I think lynching Zito would be more fun, though.

[Excedrin]

Right, so since I'm not dead yet, my tunnel vision is the idea that RayFrost is SK (not sure about how his "kill immune" statement fits anything at all).

His play really doesn't fit "3 shot day vig" play at all. Really, forgot to kill on day 1, REALLY? You posted 21 times in 4 real days on day 1 and could have unvoted from CML at any time before everyone after you on the CML wagon (kyle99, DragonsofSummer, wolframnhart, semioldguy, Andromina) got his lynch. Why not just SHOOT CML FFS?

Beyond that, when you've got the gun, don't you want to ask questions and shit before killing in order to find connections? Find out who Andromina pushed a case on, etc.

I know that I would have played 3 shot dayvig very differently than RayFrost has, but he also (apparently) thought that CML was scum because he voted for Papa Zito (which I totally disagree with and it's not indicative of alignment). Then again, I think his "Papa Zito asked to be killed -> shoot Excedrin" idea is really stupid, so clearly we have different ideas about how to play mafia.

So, before his dayvig claim, re: logic for RayFrost = scum, check his post #161 and post #195. 161 was his first attempt to link me and DoS. And in 195 he repeats my thoughts. Aside from that, there's a lot of accusations from RayFrost re "not enough scumhunting" but his Day 1 was pretty weak and Days 2 and 3 haven't been much better. Reading him in ISO feels off, too much joking and not enough substance. The logic part was based partly on POE, considering Nikanor town based on Kise's reasoning and I consider kyle99 reduced suspicion postclaim, others are more protown etc.

So, there's at least one obvious problem with this theory...

Beyond RayFrost, a couple notes:
1) Scum knows if Lucas can take another shot
2) why inspect wolframnhart? Maybe if RayFrost isn't scum this is a good place to look.
3) I hate this post #229 but it's not

scummy

, prob should just leave it to postgame but w/e

So, assuming I'm dead soon, that's most of my current thoughts, idk if it's useful.

[kyle99]

Right, so since I'm not dead yet, my tunnel vision is the idea that RayFrost is SK (not sure about how his "kill immune" statement fits anything at all).

His play really doesn't fit "3 shot day vig" play at all. Really, forgot to kill on day 1, REALLY? You posted 21 times in 4 real days on day 1 and could have unvoted from CML at any time before everyone after you on the CML wagon (kyle99, DragonsofSummer, wolframnhart, semioldguy, Andromina) got his lynch. Why not just SHOOT CML FFS?

Beyond that, when you've got the gun, don't you want to ask questions and shit before killing in order to find connections? Find out who Andromina pushed a case on, etc.

I know that I would have played 3 shot dayvig very differently than RayFrost has, but he also (apparently) thought that CML was scum because he voted for Papa Zito (which I totally disagree with and it's not indicative of alignment). Then again, I think his "Papa Zito asked to be killed -> shoot Excedrin" idea is really stupid, so clearly we have different ideas about how to play mafia.

So, before his dayvig claim, re: logic for RayFrost = scum, check his post #161 and post #195. 161 was his first attempt to link me and DoS. And in 195 he repeats my thoughts. Aside from that, there's a lot of accusations from RayFrost re "not enough scumhunting" but his Day 1 was pretty weak and Days 2 and 3 haven't been much better. Reading him in ISO feels off, too much joking and not enough substance. The logic part was based partly on POE, considering Nikanor town based on Kise's reasoning and I consider kyle99 reduced suspicion postclaim, others are more protown etc.

So, there's at least one obvious problem with this theory...

Beyond RayFrost, a couple notes:
1) Scum knows if Lucas can take another shot
2) why inspect wolframnhart? Maybe if RayFrost isn't scum this is a good place to look.
3) I hate this post #229 but it's not

scummy

, prob should just leave it to postgame but w/e

So, assuming I'm dead soon, that's most of my current thoughts, idk if it's useful.

Yeah, that could actually make sense. The balance of power between town and mafia is pretty far slanted towards the town, they got a shitload of power roles. As Papa Zito said:
xRECKONERx - Joe, Rolecop
Papa Zito - Berko, Commuter
kyle99 - AJ, VT
Kise - Lucas 1-shot bulletproof?
RayFrost - Gina, 3-shot Vig
wolframnhart - ?
Nikanor - Mark, VT
Excedrin - Eddie, VT

Having 3 scum vs Comuter, 3-shot dayvig, 1-shot bulletproof, and a commuter seems heavly unbalanced. However, having 2/3 scum & day-SK against Commuter/Rolecop/BP seems fairly balanced. I'll wait to see what Exe flips.

[RayFrost]

I didn't think there was a town consensus for killing CML.

before I could get on to do the kill, there was a (HIGHLY UNEXPECTED) lynch. As in, I was asleep when it happened.

[RayFrost]

And 161 was hardly connecting you and DoS.

If it was, I'd be connecting you and kyle as well as DoS and kyle.

That logic is faulty.

[RayFrost]

Anyway, the shot is actually for Papa Zito.

Thank the lord for bluffing.

[Nikanor]

Anyway, the shot is actually for Papa Zito.

Boo.

[RayFrost]

Anyway, the shot is actually for Papa Zito.

Boo.

?

[RayFrost]

Here's my thinking.

PZ dies.

Reck investigates kyle/excedrin tonight (whichever doesn't get lynched), town is pretty much guaranteed a win.

PZ is riskier due to the fact he's a "commuter"

[Starbuck]

Vote Count

Papa Zito (2) - Nikanor, xRECKONERx


Not voting: kyle99, Kise, RayFrost, wolframnhart, Excedrin

5 to lynch

Deadline is February 18th, 7 am EST

[RayFrost]

wtf...?

[Excedrin]

I didn't think there was a town consensus for killing CML.

before I could get on to do the kill, there was a (HIGHLY UNEXPECTED) lynch. As in, I was asleep when it happened.

You were on CML's wagon as the 2nd vote and stayed there the entire day, apparently by following PZ's logic for CML as scum. That never sat well with me and it seems to stand out more now that you've claimed vig.

And 161 was hardly connecting you and DoS.

If it was, I'd be connecting you and kyle as well as DoS and kyle.

That logic is faulty.

This was based on my thoughts before your claim, so the idea that you were mafia and therefore DoS's scumbuddy. Since I don't know kyle99's align it doesn't apply until we kill/lynch kyle99, savvy?

Anyway, the shot is actually for Papa Zito.

Thank the lord for bluffing.

This doesn't really change my theory, but I still recognize that it's flawed.

[RayFrost]

Mod: did you count my dayvig toward PZ?

Mod just woke up. Can she have a min to write things up in Notepad?

Quit being so damn impatient.