Mini 903 - Owarai TV (Game over... who won?)

[VP Baltar]

Yes I would like to hear these cases as well. I hope Amished feels better soon, I'd like his opinion on cc.com.

[dramonic]

I find it quite funny that the people I most believe to be town keep attacking each other one way or another.

I want to lynch either Starbuck or Raivann. Both give me that tingly sensation and I think there HAS to be scum between the two.

[VP Baltar]

And yet there is no real case being made, dram. Raviann in particular does not look like scum given Hell's flip. I have pointed this out, so if you expect me to believe he's scum you're going to have to, you know, actually make a case.

[xRECKONERx]

Top lynch suspect atm: Starbuck

But there are plenty of good secondary choices.

[Starbuck]

Reck, explain to me how you went from

Nope. Starbuck is town, Anon is scum.

to

Top lynch suspect atm: Starbuck

But there are plenty of good secondary choices.

[xRECKONERx]

|\/|3T4

[Starbuck]

But last I knew the top quote was based on meta too.

[VP Baltar]

How is lynching on meta a better idea than lynching someone with clear connections to a dead scum?

[xRECKONERx]

What 'obvious connections' VP?

[VP Baltar]

So are you reading anything I've said about cc.com or just encouraging that debate while not actually paying attention?

[xRECKONERx]

OH. fuck. VP we're in too many games together right now.

[VP Baltar]

Yeah, I hear ya. I've been playing with a lot of the same people lately.

[xRECKONERx]

Wait, now that I actually go back and re-read that... cc.com and Starbuck are both viable lynches, though I think cc.com is the more solid candidate.

Vote: chauchau

mmuuuuaaaaah!

[Starbuck]

I'm just curious as to why I'm viable?

I'm on quite a few scumlists, but I don't know why.

[Anon]

Anon was fighting the Hell wagon pretty hard when it came around.

I dont remember fighting the Hell wagon pretty hard when it came around.

I started being unsure pretty much at the time when he was at L-1.

So big difference there.

....

Scum-o-meter ftw:

Like

raskol
baltar
amished
reck
raivann
dev
.... gap here
cc.com
starbuck
dramonic

Dislike

Basically I find baltar's case well thought and cc's responses lacking to the pressure. Newbie card, weird reaction to someone he believed confesed scum, and lol i am not scum.

I made an starbuck case in my last post.

Isolated dramonic and found him too sure of hell being scum yesterday. However this day he has spent calling people townies (potential buddying, no reasons attached) and his only cases are weak as hell:

I want to lynch either Starbuck or Raivann. Both give me that tingly sensation and I think there HAS to be scum between the two.

Yet he doesnt vote any of them.

Willing to support any of these lynches. But for wagon purposes:

Vote: chauchaudot.com

L-2, if reck is indeed a doublevoter.

[VP Baltar]

I like your post Anon. Why vote cc.com if you find dramonic and star scummier though?

[xRECKONERx]

for wagon purposes:

[Devestation]

I want to hear more from Raivann, I don't seem to see any of his posts O.o

[Raskol]

Sorry I haven't been posting much lately, had a lot of other stuff preoccupying me.

I'm more than happy with a chauchau wagon, tbh. The not voting after calling HellFire's post a "confession" is just obvious scumbag material.

Can someone explain the Starbuck thing to me, though?

vote: chauchau

Especially would like thoughts from Dev on both chauchau and Starbuck. Who's your preferred target, guy? Assume that you can only pick one of those for some reason.

Actually, need more of your thoughts on pretty much everything.

[VP Baltar]

think that's L-1 just so everyone knows. I'd still like more discussion before we lynch. Also, see my sig for V/LA, so don't do anything too foolish while I'm gone.

[Devestation]

I don't state my thoughts unless something jumps out at me or what I think is clearly not what anyone else is thinking- I get tired of being lynched for "lack of originality".

[Devestation]

I don't state my thoughts unless something jumps out at me or what I think is clearly not what anyone else is thinking- I get tired of being lynched for "lack of originality".

[chauchaudotcom]

Dram - Mainly, his meta claim about me rings false. I know how I played that game and I know how shitty I am playing this game, there is no way he would have a town read on me if he knew my meta. He's a little to uppity about Raskol's vote on him for lurking. In ISO 2 he gives his opinion on a list of people but doesn't mention Rai. Yet ISO 3 he seems positive Rai is scum. To me the jump doesn't make sense, particularly given he is so positive that Rai is scum (for reasons towards the beginning of the game prior to his ISO 2), regardless of what Hell flips.

Which leads me to the long awaited:

Vote: Dramonic

Dev - For trying to shift bandwagon attention to Rec day one, with a rather bad case.

Star - Has rubbed me the wrong way since the beginning of the game. Took second bandwagon attempt too lightly in comparison to first. Conveniently disappeared when hell discussion started, came back with questions on everyone, voted hell, then disappeared for quite sometime after ward. Star hasn't done much follow up despite her whole long questioning post which makes wonder if she was just trying to appear as if she were scum hunting. Overall, for star, I just get a bad vibe from her.

I don't state my thoughts unless something jumps out at me or what I think is clearly not what anyone else is thinking- I get tired of being lynched for "lack of originality"

You didn't answer Raskol's first question.

think that's L-1 just so everyone knows. I'd still like more discussion before we lynch. Also, see my sig for V/LA, so don't do anything too foolish while I'm gone.

The double voter unvoted so I only have three votes on me?

I'm more than happy with a chauchau wagon, tbh. The not voting after calling HellFire's post a "confession" is just obvious scumbag material.

I already explained this. I did not vote because VP was still questioning so I was waiting for answers.

[Amished]

Sorry, my flu on Tuesday/Wednesday left me with another bout of illness (bronchitis or something) over this past weekend.

@Starbuck: There were enough people having "doubts" (either real or put on) about Hell that if I were his partner it would've been very easy to pull the "I just have a newbie read on him" or whatever and not put my vote there. Instead; after his tell I was the first to vote for him and push for his lynch because of it.

So yea, I went with the group and everything to make myself look good over his lynch.... /headdesk

However, I feel your {Star} stance on xRx to be a spectacular display of fence-sitting. You only talked about your experiences with a double voter (which have been largely scum); and the wiki saying that it's mostly town. You don't go to analyze the rest of his play this game, you just analyze the role, which obviously we've had examples of both alignments so that's highly ineffective and a largely useless post.

Oh, VP commented on it, good deal.

I think that this bit by VP about chauchau is the most damning:

So you believe that he confessed to being scum, but you don't vote him? sounds more than a little fishy.

Two posts after that, you vote Raivann for a bullshit reason that turns out to be wrong anyway...wtf? CONFESSED SCUM YOU SAID.

With a confession, you vote for who confessed. You don't look for connections until after the flip, you don't look for a secondary suspect, you wait until you can vote for him. I had a gut-town on chau; so that made me not look at her all that closely later on; but I've been wrong before.

Dram, xRx: Both of you are guilty of this as well. If you don't agree fully with the case being put against chauchau, or think that there's a better suspect; why aren't you putting your case out there? Especially you, xRx, being a claimed town-PR, you're a prime target for a scum killing and as town, you'd want your case put out there.

Chau's latest post (422) really rubs me the wrong way as it's something that I've noticed before. You {chau} have put out a case on somebody that other people have found suspicious. Obviously you put the time into defending yourself, but why haven't you put out something really attacking another player today? It would only take a bit more time, BUT you've waited until you see some other people support your choice for a "top suspect".

[Anon]

Why would you need answers of someone you believed claimed scum?