Mafia 107 - Christmas Time Mafia (Game over)

[NavyCherub]

so you think dizzy is lying?

but yet no vote for her?

Of course I think she's lying, I'm just not used to voting so early, and it's moving fast so I figured I should get that out there as soon as possible.

Vote DizzyIzzyB13

[pman5595]

On the contrary, you're in claim-or-die territory at best, claim-and-die at worst. The fact that you can't take the context of this claim demand and work out that the gig is up is mildly amusing, though.

Holy...fine. I'm a roleblocker, I used it on Flareonage last night, but that clearly got nowhere.

Thank you. Now we can lynch you.

Claim: Tracker

. NavyCherub targetted RichardGHP last night. Coupled with the roleblocker claim, the false naming of his target and the fact that Richard's claimed one-shot investigation result is consistent with his being roleblocked...

vote: NavyCherub

Please tell me if I need any other reason than this, because this reason is enough for me.

Vote: NavyCherub

I really don't think Rich is scum, I think Navy blocked him. I believe his Joat claim.

[RichardGHP]

@Navy: How do we know that you're not lying about blocking Flare? That has to be one of the safest moves I've seen all game... claiming RB only to -claim- that you used it on a dead person... suspicious.

That paired with Dizzy's theory is enough for me.

Vote: NavyCherub

Preview Edit:

[quote"NavyCherub"]

Vote DizzyIzzyB13

[/quote]

OMGUS.

[RichardGHP]

EBWOP:

Vote DizzyIzzyB13

OMGUS.

[sorasgoof]

It seems there was a mafia roleblocker after all. It wasn't such a far-fetched idea now, was it? Dizzy, I can see why you wanted him to vote without a reason, sort of. If you had given him a reason, it probably would have given him more time to think, first of all, and he might've been more capable of dodging your suspicion.

Vote: NavyCherub

[NavyCherub]

OMGUS.

Lynching a liar who is building a quick wagon on me is not OMGUS.

[RichardGHP]

OMGUS.

Lynching a liar who is building a quick wagon on me is not OMGUS.

Please. I've heard that one before.

If you are so confident that Dizzy is lying, then prove it.

[sorasgoof]

EBWOP:

sora, you are in all types of shit tomorrow!

Why, because my guess that there was a mafia roleblocker came true?

[sorasgoof]

EBWOP: Well, it wasn't really a guess. It was more of a "what-if" type thing, but you guys know what I mean.

[NavyCherub]

OMGUS.

Lynching a liar who is building a quick wagon on me is not OMGUS.

Please. I've heard that one before.

If you are so confident that Dizzy is lying, then prove it.

She didn't post as much as most of the town yesterday and decided to tunnel me after answering her question. I'm fairly sure she's been planning this.

[Tarballs]

1st Vote Count of Day 2

6 - NavyCherub

(DizzyIzzyB13, curiouskarmadog, Parama, pman5595, RichardGHP, sorasgoof)

1 - DizzyIzzyB13

(NavyCherub)

10 - Not voting

(Bogre, DedicatedScribe, DragonsofSummer, CryMeARiver, Konowa, CCARaven4, InflatablePie, ready2rock, Nicodemus, TheLonging)


With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Deadline for this day is February 9th, 2010.

[Parama]

Well Navy, look at it this way...
If you are town-sided roleblocker, then Rich-Dizzy is a scumteam. Your lynch would catch two scum.

[NavyCherub]

Or we could lynch Dizzy and skip the part where we have to lynch a townie, don't you think that would be a more productive thing to do?

[Parama]

If Dizzy is tracker then she's a pretty valuable role for the town.

[NavyCherub]

Parama, if Dizzy is a tracker then she would have reported me as targeting Flan, not Rich.

[RichardGHP]

Parama, if Dizzy is a tracker then she would have reported me as targeting Flan, not Rich.

But the only thing with that is, you claimed to have blocked a dead person - that's a very safe move, one that could easily be faked by scum. Dizzy's theory is a lot more viable and believable. Not to mention provable.

@Parama, how can you be so certain that if Navy flips town, Dizzy and I are a scumteam?

[Parama]

Dizzy is using her claim to clear you and blame Nvay. If Nvay is a pro-town roleblocker then Dizzy lied about her role. Both of you would be scum.

[RichardGHP]

Dizzy is using her claim to clear you and blame Nvay. If Nvay is a pro-town roleblocker then Dizzy lied about her role. Both of you would be scum.

You still can't be sure though; you said yourself that the only way to confirm someone as a role is through the investigations of a confirmed cop/other investigative role.

[DedicatedScribe]

NavyCherub: Claim. Now. This is non-negotiable and unavoidable.

I don't like this. Not at all.

Dizzy, why do you want me to claim all of a sudden?

On the topic of Richard's investigation, I think that I buy Richard's claim for now. Having two people with commuter abilities is definitely not a reason for it to be false.

The why is unimportant. The fact that you claim is not.

Why are you being so vague?

Dizzy, why do you want me to claim all of a sudden?

On the topic of Richard's investigation, I think that I buy Richard's claim for now. Having two people with commuter abilities is definitely not a reason for it to be false.

have you seen a game where two people had commuter abilities? If there is a even night, do you think there might be an ODD night as well? also why do you believe him now? yesterday after his claim you DIDNT believe him...what about his claim do you believe now?

Fos navy

and it is obvious that Dizzy has some sort of information on navy....I hope it is something related to alignment and not role information....if dizzy has some sort of information, dizzy must be a power role of sorts...I doubt she would have come out unless she has something...

Most likely.

On the contrary, you're in claim-or-die territory at best, claim-and-die at worst. The fact that you can't take the context of this claim demand and work out that the gig is up is mildly amusing, though.

Holy...fine. I'm a roleblocker, I used it on Flareonage last night, but that clearly got nowhere.

Thank you. Now we can lynch you.

Claim: Tracker

. NavyCherub targetted RichardGHP last night. Coupled with the roleblocker claim, the false naming of his target and the fact that Richard's claimed one-shot investigation result is consistent with his being roleblocked...

vote: NavyCherub

I believe you.

vote NavyCherup

Or you can die tomorrow. idc.
If he's wrong, then we'll have loads of fun.

so you think dizzy is lying?

but yet no vote for her?

Of course I think she's lying, I'm just not used to voting so early, and it's moving fast so I figured I should get that out there as soon as possible.

Vote DizzyIzzyB13

I don't really expect you to flip town now.

Or we could lynch Dizzy and skip the part where we have to lynch a townie, don't you think that would be a more productive thing to do?

Would you do this if you were in our position?

Dizzy is using her claim to clear you and blame Nvay. If Nvay is a pro-town roleblocker then Dizzy lied about her role. Both of you would be scum.

Careful, dizzy may want us to think this. Then its 1 for 2. We can start with Dizzy is scum for lying.

***

Yea, obv lynch for today is Navy.

If navy flips town, then we lynch dizzy, and consider the scumhood of richard.[/b]

[DedicatedScribe]

EBWOP:

unvote; vote navycherub

[NavyCherub]

Would you do this if you were in our position?

Vote for the person who I trusted less, assuming you mean if I were in Parama's position and not mine or Dizzy's.

[InflatablePie]

Usually when someone demands a claim right off the bat D1, they usually have some sort of information. Could be a gambit, but doubtful.

Holy...fine. I'm a roleblocker, I used it on Flareonage last night, but that clearly got nowhere.

Just happened to be a dead mafia. Right.

Vote: NavyCherub

(Tristan: I don't believe you!)


Not liking Richard because of the commuter dying - kind of weird that there'd be multiple commutes, but then again, Fugi's is limited. On another hand, Richard hadn't been the best looking yesterday, like I've said a few times.

IIRC, Richard also tried to distance himself from Navy on D1 and:

On the topic of Richard's investigation, I think that I buy Richard's claim for now. Having two people with commuter abilities is definitely not a reason for it to be false.

...if Navy really does flip scum, definitely gonna be suspicious of Richard.

Actually, Richard should be looked at still, no matter what, since Dizzy's report kind of defends Richard in a sense. Navy flips town, we have two scum. But it wouldn't make sense for two scum to sac themselves to out a single townie. o_O

Oh, and soras is suspicious, for sort of suggesting the RB thing yesterday.

I think that's it.

[InflatablePie]

EBWOP:

Vote DizzyIzzyB13

OMGUS.

That's called a countervote, Rich. Not an OMGUS.

If you are so confident that Dizzy is lying, then prove it.

She didn't post as much as most of the town yesterday and decided to tunnel me after answering her question. I'm fairly sure she's been planning this.

lurking =/= scumtell, and if anything that definitely explains why she used her scan on you.

Why'd you use your "roleblock" on Flare, not like it matters?

[DedicatedScribe]

Would you do this if you were in our position?

Vote for the person who I trusted less, assuming you mean if I were in Parama's position and not mine or Dizzy's.

well I trust you less atm. You have to admit dizzy is more believable.

Why should we trust you?

What makes dizzy more likely to be scum than you?

[NavyCherub]

Why'd you use your "roleblock" on Flare, not like it matters?

Because he was a replacement who didn't essentially do anything, I figured he was newb scum and no one else claimed a power role other than Rich, who I obviously didn't want to interrupt.