Mini 901: Real Time Mafia (Over)

[farside22]

10 Alive

Snow Bunny ( 2 ) Juls Plumegranate
DeathRowKitty ( 0 )
bigmc109 ( 4 ) Fishythefish don_johnson Ellibereth farside22
don_johnson ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 1 ) bigmc109
Flareonage ( 1 ) Snow Bunny
Plumegranate ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
manho ( 0 )
Fishythefish ( 1 ) Flareonage
No Lynch ( 1 ) manho
Total Votes ( 10 )

With 10 alive, 6 needed to lynch.
Next Lynch Available at: January 16th 00:01 EST
Lynch Will Be: Snow Bunny

iFeel Flare town.
P-fruit. what do you think about bigmc?
Need more wagon.

How and why?

[Flareonage]

You asked whether I "confirmed SB's claim". Neighbours get to talk to each other. If you like,

The reason I ask is that I figured she would've told you and DRK that right away in the QT. That's what I would've done in her position

[Juls]

Posting from my phone at school. Sorry I wasn't around yesterday. I got busy. Will catch up tonight.

[Plumegranate]

iFeel Flare town.
P-fruit. what do you think about bigmc?
Need more wagon.

No.

Actually, I did miss him, so thanks for pointing him out.

All of his posts, except for one one-liner, have been about the early back-up lynch on CSL. Though I disagreed with it, there's still other scumhunting to be done.

Maybe

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I'm having trouble deciding where my vote should go- Flare, manho, or bigmac. What especially troubles me is that this game was supposed to be fast-paced.

FoS: Flareonage, Bigmc

Unvote; Vote: manho

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[bigmc109]

I'm here, very busy day. Will post content tomorrow.

[Juls]

I can sympathise partially with SB over this one - I think it's totally understandable to see the post as a minor scumtell. But the level of certainty that arose from that scumtell, here and there, is a bit off.

Hindsight is 20/20 of course. When did SB reveal this "slip"? Before or after she was a lynch target? I am curious to know if Annie saw this and if she responded to it. Please feel free to share Annie's feelings on this...SB you can answer this one if you like.

V/LA until 17/1, may have a chance to post before the deadline.

This angers me greatly. If this is legitimate you should replace out!

@dj: Why does Plum's V/LA's bother you so much but manho's doesn't?

Or, if I claim to have not used the ability yet, they might hurry and try to target someone before I send my action. Or, etc, etc, etc. Giving more info to the scum is not good for town.

I am not interested in your future targets but I am interested in who you targeted last. Your reluctance to do so is noted. If you say who you targeted they cannot necessarily confirm you but they can certain contradict you if they know their action was not blocked.

@farside: What changed between 425 and 431 to make you vote BigMC?

Of the current leading suspicions I would support a manho or flare lynch. Not really feeling the bigMC wagon. The massive V/LA and lurking from manho doesn't sit well with me and reminds me too much of Jebus-scum. Flare is being completely useless and it is possible it is due to him being new but I am not really sure why he is even playing at this point?

[Snow_Bunny]

@Juls: Why do you want me to claim my target, if any? I would claim my targets once the time has gone, but I won't when I have not decided to use my action or when the action is in progress. Tell me, what exactly do town win knowing who I targeted?

[Flareonage]

snow bunny is right. We gain absolutely nothing from knowing her targets UNLESS she successfully stops a night kill.

[farside22]

@farside: What changed between 425 and 431 to make you vote BigMC?

I wanted to feel bunny out and see how firm she stood on her belief before changing my vote. A claim alone really means nothing without proof from Bunny. She had sound reasoning and understanding I felt.

[Fishythefish]

I can sympathise partially with SB over this one - I think it's totally understandable to see the post as a minor scumtell. But the level of certainty that arose from that scumtell, here and there, is a bit off.

Hindsight is 20/20 of course. When did SB reveal this "slip"? Before or after she was a lynch target? I am curious to know if Annie saw this and if she responded to it. Please feel free to share Annie's feelings on this...SB you can answer this one if you like.

She revealed this slip when DRK was near a lynch. She was under no pressure herself. Annie didn't post in the QT after that.

@Juls: Why do you want me to claim my target, if any? I would claim my targets once the time has gone, but I won't when I have not decided to use my action or when the action is in progress. Tell me, what exactly do town win knowing who I targeted?

What we gain is, potentially, the ability to confirm or counterclaim you ability.

However, thinking about it:
1) If SB is scum, there's a good chance she's a roleblocker - so even a verified claim wouldn't mean much.
2) It's difficult to claim targets without revealing something about duration and recharge times.
So I withdraw my request for a targets claim, unless and until SB stops a NK.

@mod:

I think you counted my FoS in 448 as a vote.

You're right. It has been fixed.

unvote, vote: bigmc109

[Fishythefish]

An advance warning; deadline hits at 5am my time, so I won't be around immediately before deadlines. I should be able to make it on ~5 hours before deadline to cast a final vote.

I'm still very much in favour of a bigmc lynch.

[Ellibereth]

I do not want to see Bunny lynched today.
I would be happy to see either one of bigmc or manho to go. No Flare because I have a big VI newbtown read on him.

[farside22]

No Flare because I have a big VI newbtown read on him.

This statement confused me. What do you mean here?

[Ellibereth]

I think Flair is newbtown over newbscum.

[farside22]

I think Flair is newbtown over newbscum.

Ah. Well that doesn't mean reading the thread should be unheard of. Asking pointless questions that already been answered is typically scum trying to look town.
He doesn't win any awards for me thus far. He joked around his first post. Jumped on the DRK BW after saying this:

VOTE: Don_Johnson

There's no unvoting and I see no reason to lynch drk

Vote DRK because why? Quickly unvotes and votes you then jumps over to anna's wagon.
He can use all this behavoir of jumping around from one BW to another and is considered newbtown!?

[don_johnson]

comin down to the wire again. i suggest another vote on bigmac and a claim so we have time to reorganize if necessary.

elli: i am expecting more from you as this game continues.

juls: i hadn't noticed manho. not good. not good at all. plum's v/la doesn't "bother me" as much as i find it terribly inconvenient and could easily see it as a scum tactic to explain deadline absenteeism. obviously this applies to manho as well.

taking the girls to dance lessons. more later.

[Snow_Bunny]

Ok, time must have elapsed already.

I jailed the twin fruit, Pum.

Unvote, vote: bigmac

Flare's wagon is not moving. Farside's 425 is appealing, and I rather lynch him that is not confirmed in my eyes than let me hang (I know I'm town and thus I definitively know that it is a bad move to lynch me.)

[Flareonage]

unvote

vote: bigmac

I really hope snow bunny is telling the truth

[Plumegranate]

I think Flair is newbtown over newbscum.

I have seen Flare as scum (the game just ended). He acted somewhat similarly, but I'm not that confident in it.

juls: i hadn't noticed manho. not good. not good at all. plum's v/la doesn't "bother me" as much as i find it terribly inconvenient and could easily see it as a scum tactic to explain deadline absenteeism. obviously this applies to manho as well.

I see you haven't checked to see that I have never ever posted around midnight, or on a Saturday morning (EST), and neither has Plum, EVER. (Yes, this is Pom.) I refuse to listen to any arguments about how 'convenient' this is until after you do.

I jailed the twin fruit, Pum.

Any reason why?

[farside22]

Ok, time must have elapsed already.

I jailed the twin fruit, Pum.

Unvote, vote: bigmac

Flare's wagon is not moving. Farside's 425 is appealing, and I rather lynch him that is not confirmed in my eyes than let me hang (I know I'm town and thus I definitively know that it is a bad move to lynch me.)

Why did you chose Pum to jail out of everyone here?

[Flareonage]

I have seen Flare as scum (the game just ended). He acted somewhat similarly, but I'm not that confident in it.

Scum Flare = Total fail. I don't think I'm playing this game that badly

[Plumegranate]

I have seen Flare as scum (the game just ended). He acted somewhat similarly, but I'm not that confident in it.

Scum Flare = Total fail. I don't think I'm playing this game that badly

No, you're not. But in that game you didn't do

anything

but hammer. So though you might actually make coherent posts in this game, I also expect scumhunting.

[don_johnson]

I see you haven't checked to see that I have never ever posted around midnight, or on a Saturday morning (EST), and neither has Plum, EVER. (Yes, this is Pom.) I refuse to listen to any arguments about how 'convenient' this is until after you do.

simmer down, fruit cup. apparently i am no good at clarifying myself. i changed the wording from "convenient" to "inconvenient". as in, "its really 'inconvenient' for all of us that you are v/la around deadline". i haven't seen anything else from you to lean scum so yeah, whatever. i am not "arguing" this anymore.

i'd like bunny's answer as to why.

[Plumegranate]

K.

[bigmc109]

As far as a claim, I am VT. The deadline is only about 14 hours away, so I doubt the majority will come off of me. Flare is really, really looking like scum at this point. Almost more than Elli, maybe even equal. Flare has been wagon jumping the entire game with very little reason, and while it seemed like newb-town at first, it's starting to look a lot like people pleasing scum. I stand by my stance on Elli. He is scum, and when I flip town tomorrow, I suggest everyone go after him immediately. With the exception of the decreased length of time, his play matches mine EXACTLY from everytime I was scum. And notice the late jump on my wagon despite showing no real interest in me before.

Go town.