R-SURVIVAL -- Game Over

[Ellibereth]

Why devils advocate as opposed to scummy or stupid town.

[HackerHuck]

What I was saying is based on placing two players in the safe zone - one who we believe to be mostly confirmed and one who appears to be quite scummy. By selecting someone quite scummy to be in the safezone, it's less likely that the scum will target them and end up killing our pro-town player. That means if the pro-town player is killed then we know that the other player in the safe zone is scum. I'm assuming that if the only pro-town player in the safe zone will die if targeted.

Nacho - since we don't know which player the scum are targeting, I'd rather the "confirmed" player dies in exchange for scum, then to have a random pro-town player die. That other problem with two scummy looking people in the safe zone is that's two fewer targets to day-vig.

[Nachomamma8]

Elli, I've played a game with you before, and I've read through games you were in. I know when you're reaction hunting.

@Huck: Good point, I see what you mean now. But I don't think we can confirm the scummy looking person as scum if the protown player dies because there is still the possibility that scum will try to kill the protown player regardless.

[charter]

Ortolan - do you think we're better off questioning Charter or someone who hasn't used their vig yet?

Good question.

I agree with DragonsofSummer that if we want to make people shoot, they should shoot who they find suspicious, not who everyone else decides. The idea being that we are making suspicious people shoot in hopes of catching someone who can't.

What we ideally want to do IS force people to vig who we want. We want a scummy person vigging another scummy person. That way, we eliminate a scummy person, and feel better about the other one. If the person who vigs is a scumvig, we've taken that power away from them, which is invaluable.

I'm currently finding Dragons the most suspicious. Lurking but posting in other games. Zero content in this game and zero scumhunting. Probably scum.

unvote, vote dramonic

Step it up.

[DragonsofSummer]

Sorry guys, I have had a busy last week, I will have something for you tomorrow as far as suspects and the such.

[dramonic]

I'm currently finding Dragons the most suspicious. Lurking but posting in other games. Zero content in this game and zero scumhunting. Probably scum.

unvote, vote dramonic

Step it up.

Is that a typo? If so, which name is a typo?
If not... you need to make clearer trains of thought...
I wont shoot you though, you're as good as confirmed town:P

[charter]

There's no typo. You're doing nothing in this game, I'm voting you because of it.

I'd wager Dragons is scum.

[Anon]

Site is being stupid and I just lost a catchup post while loading safadfdaf.

Tonight.

[semioldguy]

What I was saying is based on placing two players in the safe zone - one who we believe to be mostly confirmed and one who appears to be quite scummy. By selecting someone quite scummy to be in the safezone, it's less likely that the scum will target them and end up killing our pro-town player. That means if the pro-town player is killed then we know that the other player in the safe zone is scum. I'm assuming that if the only pro-town player in the safe zone will die if targeted.

This is no way the above confirms or semi-confirms anyone regardless of outcome. This is just flat out wrong and could lead to being wrong in several ways. What if the person we think likely to be town is scum and then scum kill the scummy person? What if scum want to take the chance anyway, and they get lucky? It doesn't make the other person scum or innocent for not being killed. Does this really have to be explained?

[charter]

I think the next person that posts without some attempt at scumhunting should be shot. It's becoming impossible to sort out the active town lurkers from active scum lurkers.

MOD, any update on malpascp?

dramonic, your top two suspects and why please.
Bogre, same thing.

[Albert B. Rampage]

He said he was V/L/A. If he still doesn't post in the next couple days I'll take the necessary measures.

This was posted yesterday.

[dramonic]

nacho and Elli. The former's stance on the whole vig-confirm reaks to me, while the latter is mostly gut. Yes, that means I dont have a "proper scumread" on the others.

[Ellibereth]

Why just nacho? He's not the only one who thinks vig does not equal town.

[dramonic]

but nacho think I'm scummy for doing that reasoning.
I should shoot him

[Nachomamma8]

And you're doing the same thing you did in Frat Party Mafia and not scumhunting at all; instead, you're only answering questions asked directly of you.

[dramonic]

It worked there

j/k, difference is, this time I can prove my innocence. Not by your standards of course, but...

[Anon]

There are too many lurkers to have a valid read on everyone. I have some things I dont like about some guys but nothing really incriminatory.

Ortolan led the town yesterday /towntell imo but something about him pushing charter instead of analysing people with more likeliness of being scum rubs me wrong. @Ort, what is your motivation for concentarting on charter?

chamber and charter = his interaction with cobalt makes me think they are town. I agree with what semioldugy is saying and the math things he is posting. He seems to put a lot of thought and very interested in the game which makes me think he is town.

@Dramonic = what do you think of what semoioldugy posted?

@Bogre, I Isolated you, what was the motivation of the "I WANTED TO DO THAT" when you were quoting charter vigging cobalt?

[charter]

@Everyone not voting, why are you not voting? Who is most suspicious to you?

[Bogre]

@Bogre, I Isolated you, what was the motivation of the "I WANTED TO DO THAT" when you were quoting charter vigging cobalt?

Because I wanted to shoot him, and was seriously considering doing it? I then came back, and saw charter had shot him.

The motivation is not to 'gain town points'. Doing things like that is generally not a good way to get town points.

So basically, you can believe me, or go into WIFOM of what my real motivation might be.

vote: nacho

He seems way too worried that charter and chamber would live if we considered them as prob-town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

malpascp,

Town

, is modkilled for inactivity.

Anyone else who lurks for a week like that without warning will be modkilled also.

[semioldguy]

@Mod: Is that modkill counted against us as one of our two kills/lynches for the day?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Nope

[yabbaguy]

Today or tomorrow, I'll find some way to post.

[Nachomamma8]

He seems way too worried that charter and chamber would live if we considered them as prob-town.

I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

[DragonsofSummer]

shoot dramonic

he has been even less useful than I have imo.